What election day suprises will the Repubs do this year?

[Atlas]

Poll to follow

[ak1971]

Originally Posted by Atlas

Poll to follow

Im going to vote for Obama and then call everyone else a racist and a nazi.

[TailgateNut]

All of the above, and a few more.

[TailgateNut]

How about Sequoia not sending 11000 + absentee ballots which they said they mailed.

Right here in Denver were we also have that "Snake in the grass" Coffman.

[Hotrod]

When/If the dems lose the meltdown will be epic

[Atlas]

Originally Posted by Dortoh

When/If the dems lose the meltdown will be epic

Yes it will. That will have made 3 elections in a row the Repubs have cheated their way in.

[Hotrod]

If you aint cheatin you aint tryin hard enough.

[TexanBob]

It's not the Republicans who have tried to register the roster of the Dallas Cowboys in about 20 states.

[Atlas]

Originally Posted by Dortoh

If you aint cheatin you aint tryin hard enough.

Typical Republican statement. If that is the theory then why are their panties in such a wad over ACORN?

[Hotrod]

Originally Posted by Atlas

Typical Republican statement. If that is the theory then why are their panties in such a wad over ACORN?

Because you all got caught.

[Hotrod]

Originally Posted by TexanBob

It's not the Republicans who have tried to register the roster of the Dallas Cowboys in about 20 states.

[Atlas]

Originally Posted by TexanBob

It's not the Republicans who have tried to register the roster of the Dallas Cowboys in about 20 states.

It's not like those people would have voted. Just because they register doesn't mean they vote.

The reason all these fake people were registered was because the people who work for ACORN are typically poor. They get paid by how many peopl ethey register.... You follow?

It's not some grand democratic plot. It's just a bunch of people trying to scam themselves another $40.

[Hotrod]

Originally Posted by Atlas

It's not like those people would have voted. Just because they register doesn't mean they vote.

The reason all these fake people were registered was because the people who work for ACORN are typically poor. They get paid by how many peopl ethey register.... You follow? It's not some grand democratic plot. It's just a bunch of people trying to scam themselves another $40.

Atlas, It does matter. Probably not to the extent Fox news would like you to believe but # of registered voters is important. It could discourage some on the right from voting because "we already lost".

Hopefully all the over inflated egos on the left will cause just the opposite. We keep hearing how it is over and lets see how many young, college age new voters stand in long lines to vote.

[Bronco Bob]

Originally Posted by TexanBob

It's not the Republicans who have tried to register the roster of the Dallas Cowboys in about 20 states.

And the Democrats haven't either.

[Hotrod]

The liberal owned media would have been smart to claim this race is very close. Keep the 20 something base of the socialist movement motivated.

[Bronco Bob]

Originally Posted by Dortoh

Atlas, It does matter. Probably not to the extent Fox news would like you to believe but # of registered voters is important. It could discourage some on the right from voting because "we already lost".

Hopefully all the over inflated egos on the left will cause just the opposite. We keep hearing how it is over and lets see how many young, college age new voters stand in long lines to vote.

Experts who have examined the allegations against ACORN have concluded
that there is no significant threat of voter fraud. For the fraudulent
registration forms to turn into fraudulent votes, they would have had to
get through the election officials' vetting systems and make it onto the
voter rolls.

Next, someone would need to arrive at the assigned polling location with
valid identification that lists the same name and address as the fraudulent
registration. (This is fairly difficult to do if you're dead or named Mickey
Mouse.)

Then, having passed all these hurdles, that someone would cast a vote that
will cost him or her 10 years in jail. Just find me someone willing to spend
10 years in jail just for a chance to vote for Obama or McCain?

Let's look at the facts. ACORN labeled as "suspicious" the fraudulent
registration forms a few of its paid volunteers submitted. Moreover,
ACORN delivered them to election authorities under that heading.
ACORN offered to help election officials pursue prosecutions against
those who filled out the fraudulent forms.

The so-called ACORN scandal is no more than a few canvassers trying
to meet their quota and make easy money by cheating the system.

Ask yourself how likely is it that someone would go through the effort
and risk of submitting multiple false registration forms, find an accomplished
forger capable of producing IDs of sufficient quality to trick election officials,
and then spend Election Day racking up a couple extra votes at the potential
cost of spending a decade in jail?

A simple cost-benefit analysis tells us this is not a reasonable or significant
threat. The real threat here is the Republican Party using attacks on ACORN
as a calculated strategy to justify massive challenges to the votes cast in
Democratic-leaning voting precincts on Election Day. And this is what is truly
outrageous, but where is John McCain's concern when it comes to people
being harassed at the voting booth?

The same Republican Party shouting "Voter fraud!" is also furiously trying
to prevent Ohio from registering voters at early voting sites and suing to
shut down some early voting sites in Indiana.

Just as the GOP will use the so-called "Bradley effect" to explain away voting
irregularities it created through voter suppression, it will use allegations of
voter fraud to cover its efforts of voter suppression.

McCain and Republican candidates up and down the GOP ticket don't want
increased voter turnout.

[Rohirrim]

Originally Posted by Dortoh

The liberal owned media would have been smart to claim this race is very close. Keep the 20 something base of the socialist movement motivated.

Is that the same media that I've watched Bush get the free ride on for eight years?

[Hotrod]

Originally Posted by Rohirrim

Is that the same media that I've watched Bush get the free ride on for eight years?

nicely played sir

[Hotrod]

Originally Posted by Bronco Bob

Experts who have examined the allegations against ACORN have concluded
that there is no significant threat of voter fraud. For the fraudulent
registration forms to turn into fraudulent votes, they would have had to
get through the election officials' vetting systems and make it onto the
voter rolls.

Next, someone would need to arrive at the assigned polling location with
valid identification that lists the same name and address as the fraudulent
registration. (This is fairly difficult to do if you're dead or named Mickey
Mouse.)

Then, having passed all these hurdles, that someone would cast a vote that
will cost him or her 10 years in jail. Just find me someone willing to spend
10 years in jail just for a chance to vote for Obama or McCain?

Let's look at the facts. ACORN labeled as "suspicious" the fraudulent
registration forms a few of its paid volunteers submitted. Moreover,
ACORN delivered them to election authorities under that heading.
ACORN offered to help election officials pursue prosecutions against
those who filled out the fraudulent forms.

The so-called ACORN scandal is no more than a few canvassers trying
to meet their quota and make easy money by cheating the system.

Ask yourself how likely is it that someone would go through the effort
and risk of submitting multiple false registration forms, find an accomplished
forger capable of producing IDs of sufficient quality to trick election officials,
and then spend Election Day racking up a couple extra votes at the potential
cost of spending a decade in jail?

A simple cost-benefit analysis tells us this is not a reasonable or significant
threat. The real threat here is the Republican Party using attacks on ACORN
as a calculated strategy to justify massive challenges to the votes cast in
Democratic-leaning voting precincts on Election Day. And this is what is truly
outrageous, but where is John McCain's concern when it comes to people
being harassed at the voting booth?

The same Republican Party shouting "Voter fraud!" is also furiously trying
to prevent Ohio from registering voters at early voting sites and suing to
shut down some early voting sites in Indiana.

Just as the GOP will use the so-called "Bradley effect" to explain away voting
irregularities it created through voter suppression, it will use allegations of
voter fraud to cover its efforts of voter suppression.

McCain and Republican candidates up and down the GOP ticket don't want
increased voter turnout.

Ok now did you want to touch on the fact that registered number of voters can have an effect?

[Bronco Bob]

Originally Posted by Dortoh

Ok now did you want to touch on the fact that registered number of voters can have an effect?

Do you want to touch on the fact that a vast number of registered
voters are legitimate registered voters? Do you want to touch
on the fact the GOP operatives have purged thousands of legitmate
voters from the registration roles.

[Hotrod]

Originally Posted by Bronco Bob

Do you want to touch on the fact that a vast number of registered
voters are legitimate registered voters? Do you want to touch
on the fact the GOP operatives have purged thousands of legitmate
voters from the registration roles.

Oh do tell how the hell did the GOP manage to purge legitimate voters?

[Bronco Bob]

Originally Posted by Dortoh

Oh do tell how the hell did the GOP manage to purge legitimate voters?

You can't really be this ignorant, can you? To even ask such a question
leads me to think you are just trying to jerk our chains.

[Hotrod]

Originally Posted by Bronco Bob

You can't really be this ignorant, can you? To even ask such a question
leads me to think you are just trying to jerk our chains.

I am offeneded by your accusation

[TailgateNut]

Coffman sued over voter purge
By Annette Espinoza
The Denver Post

Article Last Updated: 10/25/2008 08:39:06 PM MDT


Colorado Secretary of State Mike Coffman. (Denver Post | Brian Brainerd)Related
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Coffman: Voter-purge article 'way off'Voters purged in Colorado, other key statesVoters purged in Colorado, other key statesA national voter protection group announced today that it is suing Colorado Secretary of State Mike Coffman for alleged illegal purging of voter rolls that has resulted in thousands of people being wrongly disenfranchised.

Advancement Project, filed the lawsuit Saturday on behalf of Colorado Common Cause, Mi Familia Vota, a voter registration group, and the Service Employees International Union (SEIU).

"These purge programs violate a federal law that is intended to protect eligible voters from being swept off the rolls," said Penda Hair, co-director of Advancement Project. "We felt that filing this action was the only way we could ensure that thousands of Colorado residents would not show up at the polls on Election Day only to find they could not participate in this historic national election."

Coffman issued a statement through his spokesman today taking issue with the lawsuit.

"Through consultation with the Attorney General's office, we believe Colorado has fully complied with all applicable voter registration laws and voter cancellation procedures," he said.

Earlier this month, the New York Times published a story saying that six swing states, including Colorado, may have illegally removed tens of thousands of voters from rolls or blocked them from registering.

Coffman said the report was "way off."But in reviewing voter rolls, he said his office discovered there were 2,454 duplicate voter registrations canceled within 90 days of the November election. Coffman asked for an opinion from Colorado Attorney General John Suthers, who said canceling the duplicate registrations did not violate the law because those voters would be eligible to vote under their current voter registrations.

Coffman also acknowledged that another 4,000 or so voters were given bad information about when their registrations had to be completed, and said they have been contacted with the correct information.

Democrats have been critcal of Coffman, saying their figures do not match the Republican official's. Suthers is a fellow Republican.

"So many names have been purged, the injunction is to get them reinstated," said Dawn Le, spokeswoman with Service Employees International Union Local No. 105. "What happens when people turn up at the polls and are turned away?"

The lawsuit seeks to "prevent any more voters from being purged from the list of eligible voters for any reason not allowed by the National Voting Rights Act (NVRA).It also seeks to "identify and reinstate any and all voters who were improperly purged from the official list of registered voters during the 90-day no-purge period, except those exempted by the NVRA."

Annette Espinoza: 303-954-1655 or aespinoza@denverpost.com

[TailgateNut]

More than 11,000 ballots went missing when the vendor in charge of printing the ballots, Sequoia Voting Systems, reported delivering 21,450 ballots to a Denver mail processing facility on Oct. 16, but the U.S. Postal Service said they only received 10,364 ballots that day.

Stephanie O'Malley, Denver's clerk and recorder, led an investigation by the Denver Elections Division that discovered Sequoia Voting Systems didn't prepare the mail-in ballots because of a technical problem with a data file.

This one little mistake represents over 5% of the 186,000 mail-in ballots requested in Denver!

But it gets worse. The Denver Elections Division doesn't even require that the out-of-state vendor Sequoia Voting Systems deliver the ballots to the Elections Division for inspection prior to mailing! The ballots are actually produced by Sequoia and delivered directly to USPS for mailing without the Denver Elections Division ever taking physical possession of the ballots to verify they are printed correctly and in the correct quantity!

These ballots are literally drop-shipped directly from Sequoia Voting Systems to voters (or not) without the Elections Division having to be bothered with any pesky details surrounding quality control of the process or the physical ballots.

Despite this ineffective hands-off approach adopted by the Elections Division, Denver County Clerk and Recorder Stephanie O'Malley refuses to accept any responsibility:

"Be patient with us. We certainly apologize for the delay, but it's certainly not one that we had any control over," said O'Malley.

There you have it folks - not only does the Elections Division never take possession of the ballots to perform even a cursory quality inspection, they actually disavow having any control over the situation. According to the Denver Clerk and Recorder, it is totally out of their hands - quite literally. This is an absolute OUTRAGE!

The problem was finally reported by the US Postal Service (not by the Elections Division nor the vendor involved) and over one week after the incomplete batch of ballots were submitted for mailing.

Now that the USPS has kindly identified the problem, Sequoia will make yet another attempt at printing and mailing the ballots while Clerk and Recorder Stephanie O'Malley reminds us to be patient and keep in mind that nobody that should have control over the process in fact does.

And according to the Denver Clerk's News Release of Oct 25, they are still not going to receive and inspect the ballots prior to mailing! Good grief.

Likewise, I can report that the Obama Campaign for Change office in Parker, Colorado told me last night that there have been numerous reports of lost mail-in ballots in nearby Douglas County, Colorado. I partially fact-checked this by briefly phone banking at their office and in just a few minutes spoke with a voter who had not received her ballot even though the public record showed it had been mailed weeks before.

Any Colorado voter who has already signed up for a mail-in ballot but has not received one, should immediately contact your county clerk's office to verify the status.