The Orange Mane -  a Denver Broncos Fan Community  

Go Back   The Orange Mane - a Denver Broncos Fan Community > Orange Mane Discussion > Orange Mane Central Discussion
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Chat Room Mark Forums Read



Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 07-26-2010, 02:53 PM   #1676
SouthStndJunkie
Ring of Famer
 
SouthStndJunkie's Avatar
 
Shannon Says: Listen to The Junkman

Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 17,315
Default

Titans sue Lane Kiffin, USC

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...ne-kiffin-usc/

Posted by Mike Florio on July 26, 2010 5:27 PM ET

Folks in Tennessee have been fuming about Lane Kiffin for months. After all, he took over the state's flagship college football program in 2009, stayed for a year, and then jumped to USC as soon as the job came open.

More recently, Kiffin and USC has angered the state's pro football team by hiring running backs coach Kennedy Pola, who was under contract with the Titans.

The Titans, as it turns out, are heeding the sage advice of Doug Llewellyn.

Jim Wyatt of the Tennessean reports that the Titans have sued Kiffin and the Trojans for "maliciously" interfering with Pola's contract with the Titans. Pola also has been sued for breaching his contract.

Though college football coaches routinely regard contracts as meaningless documents that can be disregarded at will, the reality is that most -- if not all -- American jurisdictions recognize a claim for tortious interference with contractual relations, giving a team like the Titans the ability to sue another team like the Trojans that induces an employee to break an existing contract. (If another NFL team had taken Pola, the remedy would have arisen under the league's tampering rules.)

The lawsuit does not specify an amount of financial damages, and the Titans apparently do not attempt to force Pola to remain employed by the Titans. In cases of this nature, damages would be determined by tabulating the actual losses incurred by the Titans in having to scramble to replace Pola. Punitive damages also could be available.

In most cases, football teams move on after an assistant coach is pilfered by another program. It doesn't mean that teams don't have the ability to pursue legal relief.

To the likely delight of everyone in Tennessee, the Titans have.

Meanwhile, Titans coach Jeff Fisher has rocketed to the top of the Al Davis wish list.
SouthStndJunkie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-26-2010, 03:34 PM   #1677
Mediator12
OM analyst
 
Mediator12's Avatar
 
Roby AND Latimer?Who the Hell Knew?

Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: INDY
Posts: 10,850
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SouthStndJunkie View Post
Titans sue Lane Kiffin, USC

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...ne-kiffin-usc/

Posted by Mike Florio on July 26, 2010 5:27 PM ET

Folks in Tennessee have been fuming about Lane Kiffin for months. After all, he took over the state's flagship college football program in 2009, stayed for a year, and then jumped to USC as soon as the job came open.

More recently, Kiffin and USC has angered the state's pro football team by hiring running backs coach Kennedy Pola, who was under contract with the Titans.

The Titans, as it turns out, are heeding the sage advice of Doug Llewellyn.

Jim Wyatt of the Tennessean reports that the Titans have sued Kiffin and the Trojans for "maliciously" interfering with Pola's contract with the Titans. Pola also has been sued for breaching his contract.

Though college football coaches routinely regard contracts as meaningless documents that can be disregarded at will, the reality is that most -- if not all -- American jurisdictions recognize a claim for tortious interference with contractual relations, giving a team like the Titans the ability to sue another team like the Trojans that induces an employee to break an existing contract. (If another NFL team had taken Pola, the remedy would have arisen under the league's tampering rules.)

The lawsuit does not specify an amount of financial damages, and the Titans apparently do not attempt to force Pola to remain employed by the Titans. In cases of this nature, damages would be determined by tabulating the actual losses incurred by the Titans in having to scramble to replace Pola. Punitive damages also could be available.

In most cases, football teams move on after an assistant coach is pilfered by another program. It doesn't mean that teams don't have the ability to pursue legal relief.

To the likely delight of everyone in Tennessee, the Titans have.

Meanwhile, Titans coach Jeff Fisher has rocketed to the top of the Al Davis wish list.
This will be an excellent test case for the coaches contracts in the NFL. The NFL coaches do not have a union and they are not afforded any serious protections by signing an NFL contract. They are basically one sided deals with no signing bonuses like the players get.

TEN will really struggle to prove their case here, especially with an impending lockout on the horizon. USC will just make the best efforts to stall any proceedings until the start of a lockout next year. Then, I bet they argue the contract was one sided as the coaches get screwed because the players are greedy. That would be a great trial to watch....
Mediator12 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-27-2010, 06:48 AM   #1678
worm
Great moments are born...
 
worm's Avatar
 
...from great opportunity

Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 3,899

Adopt-a-Bronco:
#20
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mediator12 View Post
This will be an excellent test case for the coaches contracts in the NFL. The NFL coaches do not have a union and they are not afforded any serious protections by signing an NFL contract. They are basically one sided deals with no signing bonuses like the players get.

TEN will really struggle to prove their case here, especially with an impending lockout on the horizon. USC will just make the best efforts to stall any proceedings until the start of a lockout next year. Then, I bet they argue the contract was one sided as the coaches get screwed because the players are greedy. That would be a great trial to watch....
Even if Lane and U$C win this case , Kiffen has proven again how he is one of the biggest POS in coaching.

He could have done this a much different way.
worm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-27-2010, 07:42 AM   #1679
dbfan21
Floridian living in KS
 
dbfan21's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Wichita
Posts: 2,176

Adopt-a-Bronco:
Pat Bowlen
Default

Not a good start in Baltimore. RT @duffstar: Ravens CB Walt Harris and rookie DT Terrence Cody didn't pass conditioning test. 31 minutes ago via UberTwitter

Surprise, surprise!!
dbfan21 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-27-2010, 09:59 AM   #1680
azbroncfan
Ring of Famer
 
azbroncfan's Avatar
 
Angry guntoting,meateating AMERICAN

Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Scottsdale
Posts: 8,644

Adopt-a-Bronco:
TEBOW
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by dbfan21 View Post
Not a good start in Baltimore. RT @duffstar: Ravens CB Walt Harris and rookie DT Terrence Cody didn't pass conditioning test. 31 minutes ago via UberTwitter

Surprise, surprise!!
Heard he did well at coney island hot dog eating contest though.
azbroncfan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-27-2010, 10:42 AM   #1681
dbfan21
Floridian living in KS
 
dbfan21's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Wichita
Posts: 2,176

Adopt-a-Bronco:
Pat Bowlen
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by azbroncfan View Post
heard he did well at coney island hot dog eating contest though.
rofl!
dbfan21 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-27-2010, 12:53 PM   #1682
_Oro_
Formerly known as Casson
 
_Oro_'s Avatar
 
Don't run that sh*t this way.

Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Montréal
Posts: 1,190

Adopt-a-Bronco:
- R. Ayers
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by dbfan21 View Post
Not a good start in Baltimore. RT @duffstar: Ravens CB Walt Harris and rookie DT Terrence Cody didn't pass conditioning test. 31 minutes ago via UberTwitter

Surprise, surprise!!
Champ didn't pass ours last year...
_Oro_ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-27-2010, 01:29 PM   #1683
Smilin Assassin
Tradition
 
Smilin Assassin's Avatar
 
"Buy in, or get the hell out."

Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: East Coast
Posts: 2,145
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by _Oro_ View Post
Champ didn't pass ours last year...
There's a slight difference, I'd think.
Attached Images
 
Smilin Assassin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-27-2010, 02:32 PM   #1684
oubronco
John Foneco !!
 
oubronco's Avatar
 
Mile High Magic

Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Sooner Country
Posts: 26,906
Default

NFL | Chester Pitts scheduled to meet with three teams
Tue, 27 Jul 2010 12:31:42 -0400

Unrestricted free-agent OG Chester Pitts (Texans) is scheduled to meet with the Pittsburgh Steelers, Denver Broncos and Seattle Seahawks this week, a source told NFL Network's Jason La Canfora.



Broncos | Two players waived
Tue, 27 Jul 2010 12:21:43 -0400

The Denver Broncos have waived LB Bruce Davis and OL Chris Marinelli, reports NationalFootballPost.com's Aaron Wilson.
oubronco is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-28-2010, 11:15 AM   #1685
SouthStndJunkie
Ring of Famer
 
SouthStndJunkie's Avatar
 
Shannon Says: Listen to The Junkman

Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 17,315
Default

There is only one 1st round draft pick signed so far....I thought that would be well behind last year's pace....but I went back and looked and last year on this date, there were only 4 first round picks signed.
SouthStndJunkie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-28-2010, 12:08 PM   #1686
SouthStndJunkie
Ring of Famer
 
SouthStndJunkie's Avatar
 
Shannon Says: Listen to The Junkman

Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 17,315
Default

The New England Patriots signed first-round draft choice Devin McCourty to a five-year contract.

The contract for the cornerback from Rutgers is worth $13.2 million with $7.825 million guaranteed, according to his agent, Andy Simms.
SouthStndJunkie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-28-2010, 12:17 PM   #1687
crush17
"Born A Broncos Fan"
 
crush17's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Denver, CO
Posts: 6,851

Adopt-a-Bronco:
Rick Upchurch
Default

That's 2 spots after Tebow I think...

So, based on that, I'm guessing we'll see a 5 or 6 year contract for tebow ranging from 14-16 million and 8-10 mill guaranteed with some sort of QB padding as well.
crush17 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-28-2010, 12:49 PM   #1688
azbroncfan
Ring of Famer
 
azbroncfan's Avatar
 
Angry guntoting,meateating AMERICAN

Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Scottsdale
Posts: 8,644

Adopt-a-Bronco:
TEBOW
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Smilin Assassin View Post
There's a slight difference, I'd think.
Those are some b!tch T!T's.

Last edited by azbroncfan; 07-28-2010 at 12:55 PM..
azbroncfan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-29-2010, 07:46 AM   #1689
NYBronc
Ring of Famer
 
NYBronc's Avatar
 
Greatest Ever

Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Parker
Posts: 1,643

Adopt-a-Bronco:
Trevor Pryce
Default

Numbers are in: Raiders first-round pick Rolando McClain signed a 5-year, $40 million contract that includes $23 million guaranteed.
NYBronc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-29-2010, 08:56 AM   #1690
SouthStndJunkie
Ring of Famer
 
SouthStndJunkie's Avatar
 
Shannon Says: Listen to The Junkman

Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 17,315
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by NYBronc View Post
Numbers are in: Raiders first-round pick Rolando McClain signed a 5-year, $40 million contract that includes $23 million guaranteed.
That makes 3/32 first round picks signed.

I expect several more to be signed today.
SouthStndJunkie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-29-2010, 09:01 AM   #1691
Cito Pelon
Happy
 
Cito Pelon's Avatar
 
Happy dog at the Divide

Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Lombardiville
Posts: 18,379

Adopt-a-Bronco:
Werewolves
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by NYBronc View Post
Numbers are in: Raiders first-round pick Rolando McClain signed a 5-year, $40 million contract that includes $23 million guaranteed.
If $23 mil is guaranteed, that's 57.5% of the contract guaranteed. These rookie salaries are getting outlandish. 3-4 years ago IIRC the percentage guaranteed was nowhere near 60%, more like 33% guaranteed. There's obviously a lot of issues to be discussed in the CBA negotiations, and rookie contracts are certainly gonna be one of them.

There has to be some kind of structure to rookie contracts. Seems to me the NFL is gonna destroy itself if the two sides don't come to an understanding on this issue.
Cito Pelon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-29-2010, 10:51 AM   #1692
Beantown Bronco
Athletic Supporter
 
Beantown Bronco's Avatar
 

Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Mass
Posts: 21,987

Adopt-a-Bronco:
CJ
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cito Pelon View Post
There has to be some kind of structure to rookie contracts. Seems to me the NFL is gonna destroy itself if the two sides don't come to an understanding on this issue.
To be fair, technically there is a very rigid structure in place and there has been for quite awhile when it comes to rookie contracts. There is both a "rookie salary cap" that each team must stay under and there is a definite slotting system from year to year that pretty much dictates 90% of what the contract is going to look like.

I think people are more upset by the numbers and the percentage of the overall salary cap that is allocated to rookies, but for some reason confuse this anger with "a lack of structure" when in reality it's not that at all.
Beantown Bronco is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-29-2010, 12:34 PM   #1693
Kaylore
Three Lombardis
 
Kaylore's Avatar
 
This one's for Pat

Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Ceti Alpha V
Posts: 50,382

Adopt-a-Bronco:
Pat Bowlen
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Beantown Bronco View Post
To be fair, technically there is a very rigid structure in place and there has been for quite awhile when it comes to rookie contracts. There is both a "rookie salary cap" that each team must stay under and there is a definite slotting system from year to year that pretty much dictates 90% of what the contract is going to look like.

I think people are more upset by the numbers and the percentage of the overall salary cap that is allocated to rookies, but for some reason confuse this anger with "a lack of structure" when in reality it's not that at all.
It's really just the top 15 that are out of control. Their value each year is appreciating exponentially and are worth more than the player's real market value. This results in high picks like Vernon Davis being the highest paid tight end in football. He's not even the best receiver on their team. It's ridiculous. They fix the top fifteen and the rest will fall into place.
Kaylore is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 07-29-2010, 01:51 PM   #1694
SouthStndJunkie
Ring of Famer
 
SouthStndJunkie's Avatar
 
Shannon Says: Listen to The Junkman

Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 17,315
Default

Jared Odrick agrees to terms with the Dolphins

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...-the-dolphins/

Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on July 29, 2010 3:57 PM ET

Slowly, but surely, the draft picks taken at the bottom part of the first round are beginning to sign.

Defensive lineman Jared Odrick agreed to terms with the Dolphins Thursday, a league source tells PFT. The No. 28 overall pick had a template to work from after Patriots cornerback Devin McCourty signed, but it's a mild surprise Odrick agreed before Miami's second round pick, linebacker Koa Misi.

Odrick was one of our favorite draft prospects, a heady defensive lineman with consistent effort that can line up at multiple positions.

Four first-round draft picks have now signed.

UPDATE: Odrick's five-year deal has $7.133 million in guaranteed money and a maximum value of $13.071 million.
SouthStndJunkie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-29-2010, 01:59 PM   #1695
SouthStndJunkie
Ring of Famer
 
SouthStndJunkie's Avatar
 
Shannon Says: Listen to The Junkman

Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 17,315
Default

Signing Status of First Round Picks:

1 Rams Sam Bradford QB
2 Lions Ndamukong Suh DT
3 Buccaneers Gerald McCoy DT
4 Redskins Trent Williams OT
5 Chiefs Eric Berry SS
6 Seahawks Russell Okung OT
7 Browns Joe Haden CB
8 Raiders Rolando McClain LB - signed
9 Bills C.J. Spiller RB
10 Jaguars Tyson Alualu DE
11 49ers Anthony Davis OT
12 Chargers Ryan Mathews RB
13 Eagles Brandon Graham DE
14 Seahawks Earl Thomas SS
15 Giants Jason Pierre-Paul DE
16 Titans Derrick Morgan DE
17 49ers Mike Iupati OG
18 Steelers Maurkice Pouncey C
19 Falcons Sean Weatherspoon LB - signed
20 Texans Kareem Jackson CB
21 Bengals Jermaine Gresham TE
22 Broncos Demaryius Thomas WR
23 Packers Bryan Bulaga OT
24 Cowboys Dez Bryant WR - signed
25 Broncos Tim Tebow QB - signed
26 Cardinals Dan Williams DT
27 Patriots Devin McCourty CB - signed
28 Dolphins Jared Odrick DT - signed
29 Jets Kyle Wilson CB
30 Lions Jahvid Best RB
31 Colts Jerry Hughes DE
32 Saints Patrick Robinson CB

Last edited by SouthStndJunkie; 07-29-2010 at 06:23 PM..
SouthStndJunkie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-29-2010, 02:04 PM   #1696
SouthStndJunkie
Ring of Famer
 
SouthStndJunkie's Avatar
 
Shannon Says: Listen to The Junkman

Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 17,315
Default

Sean Weatherspoon comes to terms with Falcons

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...-with-falcons/

Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on July 29, 2010 4:27 PM ET

Falcons linebacker Sean Weatherspoon has a chance to be the next "Mouth of the South," an excitable first-round Falcons pick that can back up his talk more than DeAngelo Hall ever did.

Weatherspoon made sure he'll get to training camp on Thursday when he agreed to terms on a five-year deal, as originally reported by Jay Glazer of FOX. The Falcons quickly confirmed the news once it was out.

It's uncertain if Weatherspoon will start as a rookie. Mike Peterson looks like the man at Weatherspoon's natural weak side position, so Weatherspoon could possibly challenge Stephen Nicolas on the strong side.
SouthStndJunkie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-29-2010, 03:10 PM   #1697
NYBronc
Ring of Famer
 
NYBronc's Avatar
 
Greatest Ever

Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Parker
Posts: 1,643

Adopt-a-Bronco:
Trevor Pryce
Default

Flozell signs with Pittsburgh according to Schefter.

Pittsburgh strengthening its line. Steelers signed former Cowboys OT Flozell Adams to a two-year contract, according to team official.
NYBronc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-29-2010, 08:38 PM   #1698
Ugly Duck
Proof: SD fans DO exist!
 
Ugly Duck's Avatar
 
RF

Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 1,419
Default Chargers continue to unravel: Merriman refuses to show for camp

Shawne "roidman" Merriman told the San Diego Union Tribune that he will not report to training camp in time for the start of the Chargers’ training camp.

He will likely be joined by receiver Vincent Jackson and left tackle Marcus McNeill. Both players are expected to hold out into the regular season because they want long-term deals.

Merriman told the newspaper he is not looking for a new deal. He just wants insurances that the team is committed to him.

“I’m waiting for the green light to have a great year,” he said. “I need to know I’m not going to be on the trade block every three weeks … The question is do I have stability enough to go play football and not worry about the other things?

“This is literally day to day how things progress, how things move,” he said. “I don’t want this to be a distraction to my teammates. I don’t want this to be a distraction to me. I just want to get something resolved soon and go from there. The bottom line is when I get back on the field I plan on doing what I do best, and that is playing."

The Chargers were expecting Merriman to show up and he needs to have a strong training camp and regular season to show he is fully recovered from a 2008 knee surgery. It seems like Merriman just wants to clear the air. With Jackson and McNeill wanting much more than that, it seems perhaps the Chargers and Merriman can quickly come to an accord.

Anything is possible, but it just doesn’t seem Merriman -- who will make a lot of money on the open market next year if he has a big season -- will find it prudent to stay away for long.

http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest
Ugly Duck is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-29-2010, 08:41 PM   #1699
bowtown
Ring of Famer
 
bowtown's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 12,221

Adopt-a-Bronco:
Casey Kreiter
Default

You know a good way to have job security and stay off the trading block? Report to camp on time and prove you belong there.
bowtown is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-29-2010, 09:32 PM   #1700
boltaneer
17
 
boltaneer's Avatar
 
ATTA BABY!

Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: America's Finest City
Posts: 4,701
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bowtown View Post
You know a good way to have job security and stay off the trading block? Report to camp on time and prove you belong there.
No one will ever confuse Shawne with a smart guy.
boltaneer is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes



Forum Jump


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 06:23 PM.


Denver Broncos