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Beantown Bronco · 07-18-2010, 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by baja

That is bad for everyone except Sam Bradford.

His agent disagrees.

The #2-#___ and their agents probably disagree too.

baja · 07-18-2010, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Beantown Bronco

His agent disagrees.

The #2-#___ and their agents probably disagree too.

Maybe in the short term but if this is left unchecked it will distroy the league and I think the owners and vets understand this. How long will fans pay 20 dollars for a hot dog to support these salaries?

Tombstone RJ · 07-18-2010, 11:41 AM

It's all on the Rams, not on Bradford and his agent. It's really simple, if you pay Bradford that money then its you (the franchise) who are setting market value. The Rams suck and suck bad, I'd tell Bradford that it's no biggie if he sits out because it will only effect his future. The Rams have a vet QB who can step in and play right now. Sure, the team would like Bradford to start immediately but that is on him to get into camp.

SouthStndJunkie · 07-18-2010, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by baja

Maybe in the short term but if this is left unchecked it will distroy the league and I think the owners and vets understand this. How long will fans pay 20 dollars for a hot dog to support these salaries?

The new collective bargaining agreement will address the issue of escalating rookie salaries. This is probably the last draft class where you will see outrageous money paid to high draft picks. The NFL will probably adopt something similar to the NBA's slotted rookie pay scale. The NFL veterans will be willing to concede this point in negotiations with the owners.

SouthStndJunkie · 07-18-2010, 11:56 AM

However....you are not going to see the actual salary cap shrink much, if at all.

Don't fool yourself on the $20 dollar hot dog to 'support these salaries'. The owners claim they are not making much money, but they are all unwilling to open their books for everyone to see. They are making money hand over fist....the NFL has never been more popular despite a decline in attendance in some stadiums....people simply have more ways to watch their team these days.

The owners are in a battle with the players over the % of revenue that should go to the players, which determines the salary cap. Everyone outside of the high rookie draft picks deserve what they are making. The players will budge on that, but not much else.

Cito Pelon · 07-19-2010, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by oubronco

Rams | Sam Bradford likely to sign richest deal in NFL history

Sat, 17 Jul 2010 07:44:47 -0400

The St. Louis Rams and rookie QB Sam Bradford's reps are expected to lay the groundwork for what will be the richest contract in NFL history, according to ESPN's Adam Schefter. The guaranteed money in the deal is expected to be between $45 million and $50 million, according to a league source.

Read more: http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl#ixzz0tzgmRG36

WOW!!! Ridiculous

Well, this is apparently gonna be a big issue in the current CBA negotiations.

Hopefully the two sides get creative in the bargaining and each side is willing to give a little to get a little. Hopefully neither side thinks they're gonna hit a home run by being inflexible. The expiring CBA was an example of both sides being flexible and working together to keep the league going without a stoppage, although neither side was totally happy with it.

We'll see what happens. The object to me is to keep going without a stoppage, both sides will eventually win in that event. But you never know how stubborn and irrational people can get over $$$$$$$$.

Cito Pelon · 07-19-2010, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by SouthStndJunkie

The new collective bargaining agreement will address the issue of escalating rookie salaries. This is probably the last draft class where you will see outrageous money paid to high draft picks. The NFL will probably adopt something similar to the NBA's slotted rookie pay scale. The NFL veterans will be willing to concede this point in negotiations with the owners.

I hope both sides are that rational.

oubronco · 07-19-2010, 10:30 AM

Chiefs | Eddie Kennison signs

Mon, 19 Jul 2010 08:14:27 -0400

The Kansas City Chiefs signed free-agent WR Eddie Kennison (Rams), the team announced Monday, July 19. Kennison will subsequently retire as a member of the Chiefs.

Read more: http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl#ixzz0u9O5v3cT

And Ian Gold says

dbfan21 · 07-19-2010, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by oubronco

Chiefs | Eddie Kennison signs

Mon, 19 Jul 2010 08:14:27 -0400

The Kansas City Chiefs signed free-agent WR Eddie Kennison (Rams), the team announced Monday, July 19. Kennison will subsequently retire as a member of the Chiefs.

Read more: http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl#ixzz0u9O5v3cT

And Ian Gold says

Love that picture!!

dbfan21 · 07-19-2010, 10:41 AM

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5392159

lorida and NCAA officials are investigating a potential rules violation that allegedly occurred last December involving former Gators football standout Maurkice Pouncey, sources said.

Naggle Nole · 07-19-2010, 02:23 PM

Oh wow, another major college football program that has been recently successful is accused of cheating?
How surprising

How many arrests and bad press clippings does this make for the Goaters in the last few years?

SouthStndJunkie · 07-22-2010, 04:31 PM

Dez Bryant deal is done

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...-deal-is-done/

Posted by Mike Florio on July 22, 2010 6:47 PM ET

The Dallas Cowboys have announced that receiver Dez Bryant has agreed to terms.

And, yes, the e-mail from the Cowboys came through just as we were posting the blurb about the strong indications that the deal is done.

As a result, agent Eugene Parker represented the last guy to sign in 2009 (receiver Michael Cratbree), and he represented the first guy to sign in 2010.

SouthStndJunkie · 07-22-2010, 04:32 PM

Dez is the first of the 1st round picks to sign.

Smart move by Dez not to hold out....gets his career started off without any controversy.

SouthStndJunkie · 07-22-2010, 04:34 PM

Browns sign Colt McCoy

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...gn-colt-mccoy/

Posted by Evan Silva on July 22, 2010 5:46 PM ET

ESPN's James Walker reports that the Browns have agreed to a four-year rookie deal with third-round pick Colt McCoy. McCoy received the "quarterback premium," so he'll be eligible for as much as $5 million over the contract's life. The No. 85 overall pick usually receives about $3.3 million.

Hercules Rockefeller · 07-22-2010, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by SouthStndJunkie

Dez Bryant deal is done

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...-deal-is-done/

Posted by Mike Florio on July 22, 2010 6:47 PM ET

The Dallas Cowboys have announced that receiver Dez Bryant has agreed to terms.

And, yes, the e-mail from the Cowboys came through just as we were posting the blurb about the strong indications that the deal is done.

As a result, agent Eugene Parker represented the last guy to sign in 2009 (receiver Michael Cratbree), and he represented the first guy to sign in 2010.

Should hopefully help with Thomas' deal, and won't do a ton for Tebow since there will always be a QB premium built in.

Beantown Bronco · 07-22-2010, 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SouthStndJunkie

Dez Bryant deal is done

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...-deal-is-done/

Posted by Mike Florio on July 22, 2010 6:47 PM ET

The Dallas Cowboys have announced that receiver Dez Bryant has agreed to terms.

And, yes, the e-mail from the Cowboys came through just as we were posting the blurb about the strong indications that the deal is done.

As a result, agent Eugene Parker represented the last guy to sign in 2009 (receiver Michael Cratbree), and he represented the first guy to sign in 2010.

What were the Vegas odds against this happening? Unreal. I would've lost my shirt betting against him being the first, that's for sure.

baja · 07-22-2010, 08:35 PM

Someone with a bent nose called in his loan

SouthStndJunkie · 07-22-2010, 08:50 PM

It's time for the annual, "Who will be the last draft pick to sign?" question.

SouthStndJunkie · 07-22-2010, 08:58 PM

I'll guess that the 7th overall pick of the Browns: Joe Haden, CB, Florida is the last draft pick signed.

Darrius Heyward-Bey was drafted 7th overall last year and got an outlandish contract, which may delay Haden's deal from getting done.

SouthStndJunkie · 07-24-2010, 02:21 PM

Keith Bulluck picks Giants over Cardinals

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...ver-cardinals/

Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on July 24, 2010 4:53 PM ET

Keith Bulluck is coming home.

Adam Schein of FOX reports and PFT has confirmed that the longtime Titans linebacker and New York native has agreed to terms on a one-year deal with the New York Giants. Bulluck can make up $2.5 million this season.

The deal came together after Bulluck worked out for the Giants last week and "blew them away" because he looked so good only seven months removed from ACL surgery.

The Cardinals also made a late push to sign Bulluck after Gerald Hayes' recent surgery, but the lure of New York was too difficult for Bulluck to avoid. Bulluck was All State at Clarkstown High School in nearby New City

Bulluck played on the weak side in Tennessee; that's where Michael Boley lines up in New York. Clint Sintim plays on the strong side and middle linebacker is wide open.

The Giants may be looking for Bulluck to help fill a leadership void in New York, while slowly working into the mix as he recovers from surgery.

Cito Pelon · 07-24-2010, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by SouthStndJunkie

Browns sign Colt McCoy

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...gn-colt-mccoy/

Posted by Evan Silva on July 22, 2010 5:46 PM ET

ESPN's James Walker reports that the Browns have agreed to a four-year rookie deal with third-round pick Colt McCoy. McCoy received the "quarterback premium," so he'll be eligible for as much as $5 million over the contract's life. The No. 85 overall pick usually receives about $3.3 million.

Whoo boy, I heard this guy is supposed to be like dynamite arsenic.

NYBronc · 07-24-2010, 05:36 PM

Listening to ESPN radio right now. Mort says the Rams will offer T.O. a deal.

SouthStndJunkie · 07-24-2010, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by NYBronc

Listening to ESPN radio right now. Mort says the Rams will offer T.O. a deal.

I know Carson Palmer is pushing the Bengals to sign him as well.

SouthStndJunkie · 07-24-2010, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by NYBronc

Listening to ESPN radio right now. Mort says the Rams will offer T.O. a deal.

T.O. needs a veteran QB....the last thing the Rams need is T.O. emasculating rookie QB Sam Bradford and ruining his confidence.

Naggle Nole · 07-24-2010, 06:32 PM

If you don't feel like he can contribute to a championship on a championship-aspiring team THIS YEAR, I just don't see how he is worth the risk

And as far as the rumored Bronco's interest....
I know that it is nice to think about him serving as a stopgap while our young WR talent heals and recovers, but I do not know if Orton or Quinn have the disposition to control him, and I shudder to think of a T.O. press conference where he is asked Tebow questions

I know we still have Rod around here to run shop, but dare I even mention him as a "role model" for Bey-Bey and Decker?

07-18-2010, 11:56 AM	#1655
SouthStndJunkie Ring of Famer Shannon Says: Listen to The Junkman Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 15,258	However....you are not going to see the actual salary cap shrink much, if at all. Don't fool yourself on the $20 dollar hot dog to 'support these salaries'. The owners claim they are not making much money, but they are all unwilling to open their books for everyone to see. They are making money hand over fist....the NFL has never been more popular despite a decline in attendance in some stadiums....people simply have more ways to watch their team these days. The owners are in a battle with the players over the % of revenue that should go to the players, which determines the salary cap. Everyone outside of the high rookie draft picks deserve what they are making. The players will budge on that, but not much else. Last edited by SouthStndJunkie; 07-18-2010 at 11:59 AM..

07-22-2010, 04:32 PM	#1663
SouthStndJunkie Ring of Famer Shannon Says: Listen to The Junkman Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 15,258	Dez is the first of the 1st round picks to sign. Smart move by Dez not to hold out....gets his career started off without any controversy. Last edited by SouthStndJunkie; 07-22-2010 at 04:35 PM..

07-24-2010, 06:32 PM	#1675
Naggle Nole Team Intern Soul Brotha Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: OKC, OK Posts: 226	If you don't feel like he can contribute to a championship on a championship-aspiring team THIS YEAR, I just don't see how he is worth the risk And as far as the rumored Bronco's interest.... I know that it is nice to think about him serving as a stopgap while our young WR talent heals and recovers, but I do not know if Orton or Quinn have the disposition to control him, and I shudder to think of a T.O. press conference where he is asked Tebow questions I know we still have Rod around here to run shop, but dare I even mention him as a "role model" for Bey-Bey and Decker? Last edited by Naggle Nole; 07-24-2010 at 06:37 PM..

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07-18-2010, 11:41 AM	#1653
Tombstone RJ Ring of Famer Old School Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: In the Tetons! Posts: 19,286 Adopt-a-Bronco: WorrellWilliams	It's all on the Rams, not on Bradford and his agent. It's really simple, if you pay Bradford that money then its you (the franchise) who are setting market value. The Rams suck and suck bad, I'd tell Bradford that it's no biggie if he sits out because it will only effect his future. The Rams have a vet QB who can step in and play right now. Sure, the team would like Bradford to start immediately but that is on him to get into camp.

07-19-2010, 10:41 AM	#1660
dbfan21 Broncos Fan in Florida Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 2,182 Adopt-a-Bronco: Pat Bowlen	http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5392159 lorida and NCAA officials are investigating a potential rules violation that allegedly occurred last December involving former Gators football standout Maurkice Pouncey, sources said.

07-19-2010, 02:23 PM	#1661
Naggle Nole Team Intern Soul Brotha Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: OKC, OK Posts: 226	Oh wow, another major college football program that has been recently successful is accused of cheating? How surprising How many arrests and bad press clippings does this make for the Goaters in the last few years?

07-22-2010, 04:31 PM	#1662
SouthStndJunkie Ring of Famer Shannon Says: Listen to The Junkman Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 15,258	Dez Bryant deal is done http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...-deal-is-done/ Posted by Mike Florio on July 22, 2010 6:47 PM ET The Dallas Cowboys have announced that receiver Dez Bryant has agreed to terms. And, yes, the e-mail from the Cowboys came through just as we were posting the blurb about the strong indications that the deal is done. As a result, agent Eugene Parker represented the last guy to sign in 2009 (receiver Michael Cratbree), and he represented the first guy to sign in 2010.

07-22-2010, 04:34 PM	#1664
SouthStndJunkie Ring of Famer Shannon Says: Listen to The Junkman Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 15,258	Browns sign Colt McCoy http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...gn-colt-mccoy/ Posted by Evan Silva on July 22, 2010 5:46 PM ET ESPN's James Walker reports that the Browns have agreed to a four-year rookie deal with third-round pick Colt McCoy. McCoy received the "quarterback premium," so he'll be eligible for as much as $5 million over the contract's life. The No. 85 overall pick usually receives about $3.3 million.

07-22-2010, 08:35 PM	#1667
baja It is what it Is. Pay attention. Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 53,900 Adopt-a-Bronco: Buy My Book	Someone with a bent nose called in his loan

07-22-2010, 08:50 PM	#1668
SouthStndJunkie Ring of Famer Shannon Says: Listen to The Junkman Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 15,258	It's time for the annual, "Who will be the last draft pick to sign?" question.

07-22-2010, 08:58 PM	#1669
SouthStndJunkie Ring of Famer Shannon Says: Listen to The Junkman Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 15,258	I'll guess that the 7th overall pick of the Browns: Joe Haden, CB, Florida is the last draft pick signed. Darrius Heyward-Bey was drafted 7th overall last year and got an outlandish contract, which may delay Haden's deal from getting done.

07-24-2010, 02:21 PM	#1670
SouthStndJunkie Ring of Famer Shannon Says: Listen to The Junkman Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 15,258	Keith Bulluck picks Giants over Cardinals http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...ver-cardinals/ Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on July 24, 2010 4:53 PM ET Keith Bulluck is coming home. Adam Schein of FOX reports and PFT has confirmed that the longtime Titans linebacker and New York native has agreed to terms on a one-year deal with the New York Giants. Bulluck can make up $2.5 million this season. The deal came together after Bulluck worked out for the Giants last week and "blew them away" because he looked so good only seven months removed from ACL surgery. The Cardinals also made a late push to sign Bulluck after Gerald Hayes' recent surgery, but the lure of New York was too difficult for Bulluck to avoid. Bulluck was All State at Clarkstown High School in nearby New City Bulluck played on the weak side in Tennessee; that's where Michael Boley lines up in New York. Clint Sintim plays on the strong side and middle linebacker is wide open. The Giants may be looking for Bulluck to help fill a leadership void in New York, while slowly working into the mix as he recovers from surgery.

07-24-2010, 05:36 PM	#1672
NYBronc Ring of Famer pka young wu Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Brookhaven, NY Posts: 1,437	Listening to ESPN radio right now. Mort says the Rams will offer T.O. a deal.