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Old 10-17-2013, 03:02 PM   #5976
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Ah ok. So was he running around for the scout team on a bum knee this whole time?
Honestly, would it shock you if he was? The NFL is tough. A practice squad player may try to fight through injuries and it may have been a minor tear. (Phillip Rivers played in the AFC Championship game that way)

If that player admits he's hurting, they find out his knee is jacked, and then they put him IR, let him heal, and cut him.
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Old 10-17-2013, 03:06 PM   #5977
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Honestly, would it shock you if he was? The NFL is tough. A practice squad player may try to fight through injuries and it may have been a minor tear. (Phillip Rivers played in the AFC Championship game that way)

If that player admits he's hurting, they find out his knee is jacked, and then they put him IR, let him heal, and cut him.
nah, I think the player is under the care of the team so it's best if he lets the team doctors examine him so he can get the surgery done right away. Either that or the team has to pay out a big insurance payment if they release him without fixing his knee first, right?

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Old 10-17-2013, 03:09 PM   #5978
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Yeah who knows. I'm just trying to formulate how a player could be practicing for a team with a torn ACL without anyone fixing or noticing it.

I'm have no idea how the whole thing went down so I really don't know how Cleveland would have been blindsided by this. Just thinking out loud
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Old 10-17-2013, 05:57 PM   #5979
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Honestly, would it shock you if he was? The NFL is tough. A practice squad player may try to fight through injuries and it may have been a minor tear. (Phillip Rivers played in the AFC Championship game that way)

If that player admits he's hurting, they find out his knee is jacked, and then they put him IR, let him heal, and cut him.
Exactly....Jack Youngblood played the 1979 NFC title game with a broken leg.
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Old 10-17-2013, 05:58 PM   #5980
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I know I will sound a little crazy, but this actually might suit them better. KC has a great D right now, no question...but they can be beaten by playing small ball and with screens.

That is probably what a new QB is going to try and use the most if I had to guess. If somehow they keep him clean and he can check down to Foster...it could spell trouble for the Chiefs.

In Arrowhead though, man that place is going to be rough.
That is partially why I said it. Keenum would be the perfect QB to potentially west coast dink and dunk their D to death. Yates hasn't progressed enough and Schaub just can't get it done.
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Old 10-17-2013, 08:19 PM   #5981
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Case Keenum has never played in an NFL game, but on Sunday he’ll start at quarterback for the Texans at undefeated Kansas City.


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kFc is catching a lot of breaks this year, 1st they get INT machine Fitzgerald instead of Locker vs Tenn and now they get to face another backup who just so happens to be starting his 1st game.

They did say on NFL live that Keenum has shown flashes in the PS and in practice but going to a team on a roll at home is going to be tough.
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Wow, just wow:

http://espncleveland.com/common/more...&post_id=23881

I'd be livid if I was Cleveland, and don't think I wouldn't let the Green Bay front office know how I feel about their non-disclosure of this injury.
What is weird is why does green bay have a guy on their practice squad with a torn acl? Wouldn't you fix him early so you could see what he has next year?
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Old 10-17-2013, 08:46 PM   #5983
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If that player admits he's hurting, they find out his knee is jacked, and then they put him IR, let him heal, and cut him.
He would be paid during that time and the injury would be repaired allowing him to fully play again.
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Old 10-18-2013, 09:38 PM   #5984
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Houston icon Bum Phillips dies
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Old 10-18-2013, 09:52 PM   #5985
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Old 10-18-2013, 09:58 PM   #5986
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I always called Wade Phillips "Bum" when I was a kid, because he sucked as the Broncos head coach.

Wade is a good Defensive Coordinator though. Took over the Orange Crush after Joe Collier. Kicked butt with Dallas and now Houston.
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I always called Wade Phillips "Bum" when I was a kid, because he sucked as the Broncos head coach.

Wade is a good Defensive Coordinator though. Took over the Orange Crush after Joe Collier. Kicked butt with Dallas and now Houston.
Wade is an average head coach...but is an exceptional DC.

My prayers go out to his family....RIP Bum!
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kFc is catching a lot of breaks this year, 1st they get INT machine Fitzgerald instead of Locker vs Tenn and now they get to face another backup who just so happens to be starting his 1st game.

They did say on NFL live that Keenum has shown flashes in the PS and in practice but going to a team on a roll at home is going to be tough.
I'm going to laugh my ass off if Keenum goes off like in his Houston Cougars days. I'm not predicting it by any means, but stranger things have happened.
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Old 10-19-2013, 11:32 AM   #5989
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R.I.P.

My dad heard him say upon being fired from the Oilers: "There are two types of coaches in the NFL: Those that have been fired and those that are going to be fired".

Earl Cambell was on Sirius radio yesterday stating how this man was a father to him. Classy guy and a great icon of NFL.
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I loved Bums locker room speaches. They were about life and real world situations and not a bunch of rah rah cliches that a lot of coaches do. Bum was a NFL icon for sure and his cowboy style was awesome on the sideline.
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"Last year we knocked on the door. This year we beat on it. Next year we are going to kick the SOB in"

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Old 10-19-2013, 01:00 PM   #5992
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Sad stuf. Best wishes to wade and the rest of his family.
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He was a great coach. RIP, thanks for the memories.
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The guy lived 90 years. Good for him.
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I loved Bum for all but the game where his Oilers and Earl Campbell beat us in the playoffs back in '79. That game was a street brawl.
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I loved Bum for all but the game where his Oilers and Earl Campbell beat us in the playoffs back in '79. That game was a street brawl.
Yeah, we held Earl to only 50 yards rushing and our defense knocked him and QB Dan Pastorini out in the 2nd half, but Rob Carpenter (father of former Ohio State LB, and former 1st rd pick of the Cowboys Bobby Carpenter) had 59 yards in his place....Broncos lost 13-7.
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Wade should of wore a cowboy hat for his old man today.
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Goodell would have fined him 100k unless it was a Nike produced cowboy hat, and Florio would have written 47 articles calling him a racist since cowboys were mean to indians.
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Wade should of wore a cowboy hat for his old man today.
That would HAVE been really cool.
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Goodell would have fined him 100k unless it was a Nike produced cowboy hat, and Florio would have written 47 articles calling him a racist since cowboys were mean to indians.
that is funny. I wasn't sure he still wouldn't wear one and just pay the fine.
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