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Old 08-04-2013, 07:14 PM   #5126
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Shanny felt Plummer was not going to be able to take the Broncos the the SB and win so He saw a chance to get what he believed to be a franchise QB ( without even as much as having to ever meant him let alone interviewed him) and did. Shanny could not wait to get his new toy (Savior) on to the field.

Jake had always played the game of football the only way he knew how, with heart, when he realized he had become a place holder that April day Cutler (curse him) donned the Broncos cap Jake was never again the same player, Shanny's move took Jake's heart out of the game and he was done as the fun gutsy player that many of us enjoyed watching. Many including Shanny used Plummer's disheartened, place keeper's play as a reason to insert his toy 8 games in his rookie season. Plummer in his mind retired from the game he loved that day it just took awhile to file the paperwork.

I admire Jake Plummer the man.
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Old 08-04-2013, 07:20 PM   #5127
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His reward for helping the Broncos go to AFCCG and Mike Shanahan's only playoff win without Elway as his QB was Mike drafted his replacement.

BTW, the Plummer led Broncos went 39-15 and the Broncos were 7-4 when he was replaced.

He completed 59% of his passes, for 11,631 with 71 TD's vs. 47 INT's.....why he gets trashed so much on here is beyond me.
This is the last time I am going to post about Plummer in the Around the NFL thread, at least until the next time it comes up a few months from now.

Your Wrong, read "A Few Seconds of Panic" and if you want to discuss it further bump a Plummer thread.

Fact is the guy did not want to lead and he quit on the team.
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Old 08-04-2013, 07:21 PM   #5128
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Not saying Shanny was wrong to make a move to get a franchise QB but where he was wrong was not to have had a sit down with Cutler to see if he had the mental side to be a franchise qb. That was gross dereliction of duty from the GM side. Shanny's ego got him in the end in Denver.

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Old 08-04-2013, 07:26 PM   #5129
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He quit on the team right after Shanahan not only quit on him but forced him into an untenable situation given Plummer's nature.
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Old 08-04-2013, 07:47 PM   #5130
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This is the last time I am going to post about Plummer in the Around the NFL thread, at least until the next time it comes up a few months from now.

Your Wrong, read "A Few Seconds of Panic" and if you want to discuss it further bump a Plummer thread.

Fact is the guy did not want to lead and he quit on the team.



a George Plimpton wanna be says Jake quit on the team?

Jake had led the Broncos to 3 consecutive playoff appearances, was 32-11 (.744 winning %) as a starter for the Broncos prior to the 2006 NFL Draft, had arguably his best season and helped the Broncos to an AFCCG appearance.

Now imagine you're Jake sitting at home and you hear "with the 11th pick of the 2006 NFL draft the Denver Broncos select Jay Cutler, QB, Vanderbilt" and tell me that wouldn't give you a fricking attitude?

Imagine going into work tomorrow morning and finding out that your replacment was just hired by your supervisor, and every mistake you make from that moment forward will be amplified while your past contributions to the company's success are evidently not appreciated.

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Old 08-04-2013, 08:37 PM   #5131
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Well technically it was at one irritating fan...probably one of those Jay rated as a 6 instead of all those 10's who watch and root for the Bears.
I knew you was going to bring that up. He was asked when he got to Chicago. What did you expect him to say? And it was after a bunch of aholes believed Mcspygate I &II.
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Old 08-04-2013, 09:00 PM   #5132
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Old 08-04-2013, 09:12 PM   #5133
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I knew you was going to bring that up. He was asked when he got to Chicago. What did you expect him to say? And it was after a bunch of aholes believed Mcspygate I &II.
meh, it happens....

people get traded and are hurt by it and lash out. people get cut and do likewise....people get dissed because they were by passed by this team or that team in the draft....it is what it is.

Jake let his emotions get away from him and flipped off a fan or three.....hell even Elway lashed out at living under a microscope in Denver. no big deal...
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Old 08-04-2013, 09:14 PM   #5134
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it's gonna be sack city on Rodgers. their OL is not good.
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Old 08-04-2013, 10:03 PM   #5135
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Kolb manages to injury himself walking to the field:

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Old 08-05-2013, 08:45 AM   #5136
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Old 08-05-2013, 08:56 AM   #5137
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"oww my foot!.....I think i hurt it twelve months ago!"
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"oww my foot!.....I think i hurt it twelve months ago!"
Dude has turned into a giant soft vagina since he went to the Jets.

The Steelers have an uncanny knack of letting the players go at the right time....not always, but they get it right most of the time.
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Old 08-05-2013, 09:29 AM   #5139
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Dude has turned into a giant soft vagina since he went to the Jets.

The Steelers have an uncanny knack of letting the players go at the right time....not always, but they get it right most of the time.
The Steelers know the key to success-longevity is through the one basic fundamental of the game: imposing your will on another human being through pain.

There's no room for someone like Santonio under that philosophy.
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Old 08-05-2013, 10:16 AM   #5140
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Injuries are a major element in who makes the post-season. These three games are the most terrifying for me because they inevitably mean someone is going to be lost for the season. You just pray it's someone replaceable.
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Jake Ballard - TE - Patriots

Jake Ballard (knee) was unable to participate in Saturday's intra-squad scrimmage.
Per the Providence Journal, Ballard is "having problems" as he returns from his ACL reconstruction and microfracture surgery. After looking strong in the first couple days after coming off active/PUP, he's "slowed" and "not moved as well." Ballard is getting outplayed by intriguing UDFA Zach Sudfeld and his roster spot is in jeopardy.

It doesn't sound like he is going to make it on the team. Gronk is expected to miss the first 6 games of the year as well. McD has his work cut out for him this year.
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Jake Ballard - TE - Patriots

Jake Ballard (knee) was unable to participate in Saturday's intra-squad scrimmage.
Per the Providence Journal, Ballard is "having problems" as he returns from his ACL reconstruction and microfracture surgery. After looking strong in the first couple days after coming off active/PUP, he's "slowed" and "not moved as well." Ballard is getting outplayed by intriguing UDFA Zach Sudfeld and his roster spot is in jeopardy.

It doesn't sound like he is going to make it on the team. Gronk is expected to miss the first 6 games of the year as well. McD has his work cut out for him this year.
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Former Chiefs and Cardinals WR Steve Breaston reached agreement on a one-year deal with Saints, as @Benvolin reported.
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Old 08-05-2013, 02:40 PM   #5145
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Jake Ballard (knee) was unable to participate in Saturday's intra-squad scrimmage.
Per the Providence Journal, Ballard is "having problems" as he returns from his ACL reconstruction and microfracture surgery. After looking strong in the first couple days after coming off active/PUP, he's "slowed" and "not moved as well." Ballard is getting outplayed by intriguing UDFA Zach Sudfeld and his roster spot is in jeopardy.

It doesn't sound like he is going to make it on the team. Gronk is expected to miss the first 6 games of the year as well. McD has his work cut out for him this year.
mCd will do whatever Belly tells him to do.

I expect them to run Riddley a ton this year. They may be winning less 52-3 games. They will still win the division because they have the Jets and Bills in there. Maybe Miami can make a run at it.
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mCd will do whatever Belly tells him to do.

I expect them to run Riddley a ton this year. They may be winning less 52-3 games. They will still win the division because they have the Jets and Bills in there. Maybe Miami can make a run at it.
They have been having Vereen line up in different positions this offseason. He is taking over the Woodhead role from the sounds of it.
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Tyrann Mathieu - DB - Cardinals

One NFL scout told FOX Sports Arizona rookie DB Tyrann Mathieu is already "pound-for-pound" the Cardinals' best football player.
An offensive assistant added that "No. 32 (Mathieu's number) is going to change the team." Per beat writer Ron Wolfley, Mathieu's quick development has been "nothing short of stunning," and he's done it while learning four positions: Outside corner, slot corner, safety, and special teamer. Mathieu is truly a stud, and will make himself impossible for the Cardinals to keep off the field.

Nice to hear he is getting his life back together.

ince Young - QB - Packers

Packers signed QB Vince Young to a one-year contract.
Thankfully, the Graham Harrell era is over. Young, 30, brings to Green Bay 50 career starts with a 31-19 record, 46:51 TD-to-INT ratio, and 5.2 YPC average as a scrambler. No matter your thoughts on Young, he stands a far better chance than Harrell of keeping the Packers' offense competitive in the event of an Aaron Rodgers injury, which unfortunately became more likely when LT Bryan Bulaga tore his ACL over the weekend. In a high-powered Packers offense, Young will offer some fantasy upside as a reserve in two-QB leagues and possible back-end QB1 if Rodgers missed time. Despite headcase tendencies, Young is a dual-threat quarterback with functional accuracy and game-breaking run skills.
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I wanted us to pick mathieu. Cardinals got a steal
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I wanted us to pick mathieu. Cardinals got a steal
Agreed.

I do think the temptation while living in CO would have been too much, though.

It's in a good position w/a top rate coach. I think he'll excel in 'zona.
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