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Old 07-09-2013, 11:23 AM   #4901
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Isn't Zimmerman Hispanic?
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Old 07-09-2013, 11:25 AM   #4902
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Ndamukong Suh - DL - Lions

Lions DT Ndamukong Suh would cost roughly $25.7 million to franchise tag as a free agent in 2015.
The final year of Suh's rookie deal in 2014 carries a hard-to-believe $21.4 million cap number, making him all but impossible to franchise tag when he reaches free agency. It means the Lions will have to get Suh locked up before the end of next season if they want to prevent him from reaching the open market. A dominant if mercurial force, the Lions should make every effort to keep the No. 2 overall pick of the 2010 draft.

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Ndamukong Suh - DL - Lions

Lions DT Ndamukong Suh would cost roughly $25.7 million to franchise tag as a free agent in 2015.
The final year of Suh's rookie deal in 2014 carries a hard-to-believe $21.4 million cap number, making him all but impossible to franchise tag when he reaches free agency. It means the Lions will have to get Suh locked up before the end of next season if they want to prevent him from reaching the open market. A dominant if mercurial force, the Lions should make every effort to keep the No. 2 overall pick of the 2010 draft.

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anyone think Suh is worth this kind of money? Outside of his rookie year, I don't recall him "dominating" like the way Watts has been dominating.
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Old 07-09-2013, 02:38 PM   #4905
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WAtt only had one good year, like suh did. His was better but both have had one good year. Suh has been in the league longer tho. I'd personally freaking love to give him a long term deal but I don't think we will have the cap unless we win it all this year and champ hangs em up.
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Old 07-09-2013, 08:32 PM   #4907
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No we had this yrs racial draft. The whites wanted half mexican jessica Alba named to the white team. The mexicans would only do it if we took Zimmerman also. Oh well she is hot and totally worth it. Hopefully the whitey Zimmerman gets off now.
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Old 07-09-2013, 08:50 PM   #4908
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how do you **** up that bad and give a cap number that high on the end of a contract when you may have to franchise the guy? wow that's dumb.
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how do you **** up that bad and give a cap number that high on the end of a contract when you may have to franchise the guy? wow that's dumb.
Suh's? He reworked it so they could free up money. Now they are F'd.
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Now I've heard everything, "Watt had just one good year."

That's like saying "Neil Armstrong had just one good space flight."
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Old 07-10-2013, 07:14 AM   #4911
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Now I've heard everything, "Watt had just one good year."

That's like saying "Neil Armstrong had just one good space flight."
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Old 07-10-2013, 09:21 AM   #4912
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Now I've heard everything, "Watt had just one good year."

That's like saying "Neil Armstrong had just one good space flight."


Do you disagree? How many exactly, good years has he had then?
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Do you disagree? How many exactly, good years has he had then?
He's only played two ...
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He's only played two ...
He's played three years. His year last year wasn't bad bust certainly not worth what he's getting:

8 Sacks, 25 tackles, 10 assisted, 2 passes defensed.

For comparison, Derek Wolfe had:

6 Sacks, 26 tackles, 14 assists and 2 passes defensed.


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Old 07-11-2013, 09:25 AM   #4915
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He's played three years. His year last year wasn't bad bust certainly not worth what he's getting:

8 Sacks, 25 tackles, 10 assisted, 2 passes defensed.

For comparison, Derek Wolfe had:

6 Sacks, 26 tackles, 14 assists and 2 passes defensed.


Awooooooooooooo!
He's referring to Watt, not Suh.
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Old 07-11-2013, 10:49 AM   #4916
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He's referring to Watt, not Suh.
Oh I got the posts crossed.
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Old 07-11-2013, 11:09 AM   #4917
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He's played three years. His year last year wasn't bad bust certainly not worth what he's getting:

8 Sacks, 25 tackles, 10 assisted, 2 passes defensed.

For comparison, Derek Wolfe had:

6 Sacks, 26 tackles, 14 assists and 2 passes defensed.


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True but Suh is a DT where Wolf has mostly been at End. 8 sacks for a DT is damn good.
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Old 07-11-2013, 11:45 AM   #4918
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Right.

One good year, like I said. Not sure what your point is unless you are trying to argue the semantics of the term good. Sure, another word such as magnificent, amazing, epic, might be more accurate to depict his last year, but it does not change the fact that he has had one good year like Suh did.
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True but Suh is a DT where Wolf has mostly been at End. 8 sacks for a DT is damn good.


Do we know where his sacks came from though? As an end or a DT?

I have no clue.
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Right.

One good year, like I said. Not sure what your point is unless you are trying to argue the semantics of the term good. Sure, another word such as magnificent, amazing, epic, might be more accurate to depict his last year, but it does not change the fact that he has had one good year like Suh did.
Suh has a total of 22 sacks over 3 years. Watt has a total of 27 sacks over 2 years.
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Old 07-11-2013, 01:27 PM   #4921
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Suh has a total of 22 sacks over 3 years. Watt has a total of 27 sacks over 2 years.
How many players has Watts stomped on tho?
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Suh has a total of 22 sacks over 3 years. Watt has a total of 27 sacks over 2 years.


And if I am not mistaken most of their sacks came from each of their one good year, right?

watt with his 21 or whatever he had last year
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And if I am not mistaken most of their sacks came from each of their one good year, right?

watt with his 21 or whatever he had last year
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Suh with his 12 or whatever he had his rook? year
So one is trending up and one is trending down....
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And if I am not mistaken most of their sacks came from each of their one good year, right?

watt with his 21 or whatever he had last year
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Suh with his 12 or whatever he had his rook? year
Suh has had one year with double digit sacks and that was his rookie year when he had 10 sacks. It will definitely be interesting to see if Watt can get double digit sacks his 3rd year, if so, then he is the best DT in the NFL. If not, it may prove he's coming back down to earth.
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So one is trending up and one is trending down....

That is correct.
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