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Old 05-14-2013, 03:54 PM   #4526
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Well, when you have a noodle arm you gotta make up for it in other places I guess
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Old 05-14-2013, 03:56 PM   #4527
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McNabb looked pretty damn good until he left Philly. Kolb got a big payday cause of Reid as well.
I don't completely disagree, but to be fair McNabb was old and washed up when he left Philly.
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Old 05-14-2013, 07:05 PM   #4528
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Chiefs signed former Nevada Coach Chris Ault to be a consultant.

He ran the option extremely well at Nevada with Colin Kaepernick and has some other ideas.

This is one of the best offensive coaching staff's in the NFL IMO. Reid at HC, Pederson as OC and Brad Childress and Chris Ault as consultants.
They said on NFL live they brought them in to talk about the pistol and spread to both the O and D. Sounds like they are desperate to find something to work.

They also asked Reid about "Taco Tuesday's" he said it wasn't his idea in Philly and he never liked it much but he said they were keeping "Junk Food Fridays", big surprise there!
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Old 05-14-2013, 07:07 PM   #4529
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Alex Smith isn't exactly hot garbage. i don't like the Chiefs but i really don't get the Smith hate. he's not a superstar by any means but he's a nice QB.
Who was one year from busting out of the NFL. When you get replaced by a 2nd year starter who almost wins a SB you know your replaceable.
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Old 05-14-2013, 07:28 PM   #4530
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Who was one year from busting out of the NFL. When you get replaced by a 2nd year starter who almost wins a SB you know your replaceable.
Every player is replaceable.....it just takes some longer than others to be replaced.
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Old 05-14-2013, 07:46 PM   #4531
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Who was one year from busting out of the NFL. When you get replaced by a 2nd year starter who almost wins a SB you know your replaceable.
that team almost went to the SB with smith last season and without the **** ups by their KR/PR would have. so if you're going to use that logic then Kaep will be replaced pretty soon by a better QB.
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that team almost went to the SB with smith last season and without the **** ups by their KR/PR would have. so if you're going to use that logic then Kaep will be replaced pretty soon by a better QB.
Yep, I felt the same way about the 80's 49ers also.
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Old 05-14-2013, 08:13 PM   #4533
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Yep, I felt the same way about the 80's 49ers also.
Well, Joe Montana was on the trade block during the offseason Elway was drafted.

Didn't know that until I saw the 30 for 30.
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Old 05-14-2013, 08:22 PM   #4534
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Well, Joe Montana was on the trade block during the offseason Elway was drafted.

Didn't know that until I saw the 30 for 30.
no, he wasn't

rewatch the program

walsh would have considered elway if he could have traded montana, but he never would have done it
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Old 05-15-2013, 01:24 PM   #4535
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The circus-like atmosphere surrounding the Jets’ quarterback position is getting a little bit crazier, with a report out today that David Garrard, who was brought in to provide some veteran leadership and stability, has told teammates today that he is planning to leave the team.

According to Ian Rapoport of NFL Network, Garrard told two teammates he no longer plans to be with the Jets. It is unclear whether that’s because he plans to retire, if he’s been told he’s getting cut, or if something else has happened. According to the Jets, Garrard is still on the roster.

Asked about the story, Garrard told NFL Network’s Jeff Darlington:,”I’m not talking about that right now. Maybe tomorrow or the next day.”
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...ving-the-jets/
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Old 05-15-2013, 01:28 PM   #4536
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Josina Anderson ‏@JosinaAnderson 31s

---->RT @AdamSchein: Text from Garrard: "Having to call it quits. My knee is not holding up. Continuing to swell after practices


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I don't completely disagree, but to be fair McNabb was old and washed up when he left Philly.
He was 32/33 yrs old when he left Philly. Hardly old & washed up for a QB.
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Old 05-15-2013, 02:16 PM   #4539
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He was 32/33 yrs old when he left Philly. Hardly old & washed up for a QB.
Spoken like someone who didnt watch mcnabb play over those years

Captain dirtball was completely washed up
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I don't completely disagree, but to be fair McNabb was old and washed up when he left Philly.
rush was right!



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He was 32/33 yrs old when he left Philly. Hardly old & washed up for a QB.
I live in the Philly market and watched it all unfold from start to finish. McNabb was in steady decline. Shanahan is pretty darn good with QB's too and even he couldn't get anything out of him in D.C.
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anyone know about this guy?
Was just diagnosed with Type 2 diabetes. Belichick is a heartless bastard.
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Was just diagnosed with Type 2 diabetes. Belichick is a heartless bastard.
His diet will change dramatically,no way he's able to keep the weight without doing harm to himself. Bilicheat did him a favor by removing the pressure of keeping at a certain weight.
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Andy Reid gets so much hype for developing a QB on par with Boomer Easison. QB guru my ass.
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Old 05-15-2013, 06:29 PM   #4545
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Andy Reid gets so much hype for developing a QB on par with Boomer Easison. QB guru my ass.
I don't think you're giving him enough credit. He's done some impressive things with QB's.
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I don't think you're giving him enough credit. He's done some impressive things with QB's.
Outside of McNabb who has Reid developed?

Kolb? He is a Huge bust.

The kid who is sitting behind Vick and now a rookie QB? Bust

Now he has a QB who cannot use his legs to buy time on a team that has a weak interior OL. Vick and McNabb were both mobile QBs.
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I don't think you're giving him enough credit. He's done some impressive things with QB's.
Getting high draft picks for scrubs doesn't make you a QB guru, it means there are a couple out of work GMs.

He is a good coach, just I think the hype he gets for QBs is over played.

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Getting high draft picks for scrubs doesn't make you a QB guru, it means there are a couple out of work GMs.

He is a good coach, just I think the hype he gets for QBs is over played.
Every QB who Reid has ever had has been drastically better under him than they have anywhere else.

I think that speaks volumes about his ability.

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McNabb failed in Washington and Minnesota more from lacking the mental side than the decline of him physically.
he limited himself because he didn't want to be seen as a running QB.
once he did that he doomed himself. he did pretty well for a few years and then his limitations were exposed as he got older and older.
now Vick was the opposite, he embraced running too much.

Reid is not a QB guru, he is good at putting QB's in a system and making them look good enough to trade. but all have struggled once they left philly, that is very telling.

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jets can't get rid of Sanchez to save their life.
though i don't think any QB will do well with that team due to the craptacular offense they have. they have little to no talent on O. they need so many things it's not funny.
but still, the QB play should be a lot better than what Sanchez has shown.
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Outside of McNabb who has Reid developed?

Kolb? He is a Huge bust.

The kid who is sitting behind Vick and now a rookie QB? Bust

Now he has a QB who cannot use his legs to buy time on a team that has a weak interior OL. Vick and McNabb were both mobile QBs.
Kolb looked good with Reid. The fact that he has looked awful without Reid is irrelevant.

What you're saying about Vick is true, but he was never that good throwing the ball in Atlanta.

His accuracy went from 52% average in Atlanta to 62% in his first year starting under Reid. He also only had 6 INT's and had a 100 QBR.
His accuracy, QBR and passing yards were much better with Reid than they ever were in Atlanta.

For the first time in Vick's career, he had a respectable year with his arm rather than just his legs, thanks to Reid.

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