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Old 01-18-2013, 10:10 AM   #4051
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Living in NW Ohio, I know a lot of Browns fans.

As much as I used to dislike the team back in the day when Denver was beating them in the AFC Championship Games, they deserve a winning team.

Those fans had to endure getting their team yanked out from under them in 1995 to Baltimore (and then had to watch them become good and win a Super Bowl), go without a team for 3 season, until the Browns were brought back in 1999....and they've stunk to the tune of:

73 wins and 151 losses.....that's a .325 winning percentage.

Averaged 5.2 wins a year since getting back into the league in 1999.

1 playoff appearance, which was a loss.

Their fans have stuck with them and still support them and they deserve better than the **** sandwiches they've been served up the last 14 seasons.
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Old 01-18-2013, 10:13 AM   #4052
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good lord, they really hired Lombardi as GM? this is a damn travesty for Browns fans.
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Old 01-18-2013, 10:22 AM   #4053
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Living in NW Ohio, I know a lot of Browns fans.

As much as I used to dislike the team back in the day when Denver was beating them in the AFC Championship Games, they deserve a winning team.

Those fans had to endure getting their team yanked out from under them in 1995 to Baltimore (and then had to watch them become good and win a Super Bowl), go without a team for 3 season, until the Browns were brought back in 1999....and they've stunk to the tune of:

73 wins and 151 losses.....that's a .325 winning percentage.

Averaged 5.2 wins a year since getting back into the league in 1999.

1 playoff appearance, which was a loss.

Their fans have stuck with them and still support them and they deserve better than the **** sandwiches they've been served up the last 14 seasons.
I felt that way about the Bills when I used to live there. Four SBs in a row? Norwood? And they still pile into Orchard Park and root for that team. In bad weather too. I'm thankful for Pat Bowlen.
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Old 01-18-2013, 10:52 AM   #4054
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The Browns have never gotten over letting Belichik go. They keep trying to re-do that. It's the Cubs who keep bringing a goat to the stadium instead of getting good players, good pitcing and seeing it through.
Or its like Pedro Cerrano needed to sacrifice a live chicken to hit a curve ball and Jake Taylor gets him KFC instead.

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Old 01-18-2013, 02:05 PM   #4055
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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...e-coordinator/

Browns hire Ray Horton as defensive coordinator
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Old 01-18-2013, 02:26 PM   #4056
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The Browns have never gotten over letting Belichik go. They keep trying to re-do that. It's the Cubs who keep bringing a goat to the stadium instead of getting good players, good pitcing and seeing it through.
They had good pitching, Maddox was a stud.

They ground Wood and that other bum down though, the a-hole who lost the Bartman game.

They have spent money recently, I think coaching has let them down more than the talent. Dusty Baker should haw won with those teams.
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Old 01-18-2013, 03:15 PM   #4057
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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...e-coordinator/

Browns hire Ray Horton as defensive coordinator
2 mil a year to be the DC and a 4 season contract. they weren't ****ing around.
and Chicago just hired Mel Tucker as their DC.
Indy is snagging Pep Hamilton for their OC job(he was Luck's OC in college after Shaw became HC)

though i do find it funny that the Jets hired Mornhinweg as OC. he's going to be in the same situation as with Philly. except far less weapons and a QB who can't stop screwing up.
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Old 01-18-2013, 10:56 PM   #4058
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Good article on Frank Gore.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/18/sp...ewanted=1&_r=0

If he never got injured in the summer of 2002, he would be an absolute lock for the HOF. He was as sick as it gets as a freshman. He still may get there, anyway, with another couple years of good production.
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Old 01-19-2013, 02:42 PM   #4059
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Living in NW Ohio, I know a lot of Browns fans.

As much as I used to dislike the team back in the day when Denver was beating them in the AFC Championship Games, they deserve a winning team.

Those fans had to endure getting their team yanked out from under them in 1995 to Baltimore (and then had to watch them become good and win a Super Bowl), go without a team for 3 season, until the Browns were brought back in 1999....and they've stunk to the tune of:

73 wins and 151 losses.....that's a .325 winning percentage.

Averaged 5.2 wins a year since getting back into the league in 1999.

1 playoff appearance, which was a loss.

Their fans have stuck with them and still support them and they deserve better than the **** sandwiches they've been served up the last 14 seasons.
Considering the browns @.325% is bad it is probably more than the city of Cleveland deserves.

Those loyal fans are simply to dumb to move to a southern state, where live is better.
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Old 01-19-2013, 07:54 PM   #4060
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Good article on Frank Gore.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/18/sp...ewanted=1&_r=0

If he never got injured in the summer of 2002, he would be an absolute lock for the HOF. He was as sick as it gets as a freshman. He still may get there, anyway, with another couple years of good production.
I think he's a lock for the hall of pretty decent.

I don't think anything about him stands out as elite. Just very solid.
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Old 01-20-2013, 05:37 AM   #4061
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I think he's a lock for the hall of pretty decent.

I don't think anything about him stands out as elite. Just very solid.
Didn't you know? All Miami players are HOF it's just coaching and injuries get in the way sometimes.
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Old 01-20-2013, 03:40 PM   #4062
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Jason La Canfora said that Balt is prepared to pay Joe Flacco 17 million dollars next year. So he will be tagged if no deal is reached.
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former Broncos GM Ted Sundquist, who interviewed for the job nine days ago, said Johnson told him it wasn't his idea. Sundquist said it was his impression that the trade was "forced" on Johnson and team president Neil Glat, who also participated in the interview.

Sundquist's description of the interview makes it sound as though Johnson was blaming former GM Mike Tannenbaum for the Tebow debacle; in a sense, Johnson did exactly that, firing Tannenbaum one day after the regular season ended.

The Jets hired former Seahawks executive John Idzik as their new general manager last week. He will be introduced at a news conference Thursday.

Johnson also said, according to Sundquist, that he eventually "jumped on board" with the Tebow idea, deferring to his football people.

"They realized it was divisive and hard on the locker room, and they wanted an exit strategy," Sundquist told ESPNNewYork.com, sharing the vibe he received from Johnson and Glat
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Old 01-21-2013, 06:11 PM   #4064
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i saw that earlier and laughed. what football people sold the owner on Tebow exactly?
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Old 01-27-2013, 02:02 PM   #4065
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http://www.gq.com/sports/profiles/20...?currentPage=1

Raider. QB Crusher. Murderer?

This is kind of a long read, but interesting.
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Old 01-29-2013, 09:22 AM   #4066
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Did Ray Lewis use banned deer-antler spray to return from triceps injury?

http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/t...substance.html

The zany story of two self ordained sports science entrepreneurs

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/nfl...rous-athletes/
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Old 01-29-2013, 10:35 AM   #4067
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every time Ray is in the SB some **** comes up.
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Old 01-29-2013, 04:40 PM   #4068
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The NFL says "Look the other way please"

Ross prescribed a deluxe program, including holographic stickers on the right elbow; copious quantities of the powder additive; sleeping in front of a beam-ray light programmed with frequencies for tissue regeneration and pain relief; drinking negatively charged water; a 10-per-day regimen of the deer-antler pills that will "rebuild your brain via your small intestines" (and which Lewis said he hadn't been taking, then swallowed four during the conversation); and spritzes of deer-antler velvet extract (the Ultimate Spray) every two hours.

"Spray on my elbow every two hours?" Lewis asked.

"No," Ross said, "under your tongue."

Toward the end of the talk, Lewis asked Ross to "just pile me up and just send me everything you got, because I got to get back on this this week."
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every time Ray is in the SB some **** comes up.
Only stuff like cheating/doping, murder, and obstruction of justice.
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Old 02-09-2013, 09:37 AM   #4070
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Anquan Boldin says he'll retire if the Ravens release him...

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100...ased-by-ravens


Ravens cap situation (not good):

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100...er-cap-squeeze
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Old 02-09-2013, 09:42 AM   #4071
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The ravens need to let some players go like Ray Rice. The the Broncos need to pick up Ray Rice.
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Old 02-10-2013, 01:42 PM   #4072
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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...arvin-problem/

Can we just acquire Harvin and fulfill a fanboy dream?

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Old 02-10-2013, 01:58 PM   #4073
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Peyton + Percy = Match made in heaven.
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Old 02-10-2013, 03:31 PM   #4074
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The Broncos would save $6 million in salary cap space by releasing LB D.J. Williams.
It's the same number as his $6M base salary. Williams served two NFL suspensions in 2012, appearing in only seven games and starting just one. We'd look for the Broncos to cut ties with Williams as soon as this week.
Source: Denver Post Feb 10 - 6:04 PM
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The question is, how would Harvin and PMFM get along? Would Percy come in and join the team, or would he expect everybody to kiss his ass?
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