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Old 06-27-2012, 04:40 PM   #3276
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Berman and Dilfer? I don't get it. I really haven't heard Dilfer too much but what I do remember about him is he's kind of an ass.

Dan Fouts people. Dan Fouts.
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Old 06-28-2012, 09:38 AM   #3277
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Old 06-28-2012, 09:51 AM   #3278
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I don't get the whole leaving of the 4:05 games alone thing. They should all be moved to 4:25 now.
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Old 06-28-2012, 09:52 AM   #3279
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I like this move....I'm always finishing up watching the early games and then have to switch over for the Denver kickoff and miss what happened at the very end of the early games.

This will help people watch the end of the early games in their entirety.
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Old 06-28-2012, 09:53 AM   #3280
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I don't get the whole leaving of the 4:05 games alone thing. They should all be moved to 4:25 now.
I agree....make them all 4:25 kickoffs.
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Old 06-28-2012, 10:00 AM   #3281
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I agree....make them all 4:25 kickoffs.
I could see doing away with the 4:05s entirely and just going with 4:15 starts across the board. But leaving the 4:05s alone and moving back the only the LATER start time games? I just don't get it. If there's overlap, it's going to happen with the 4:05 games before it happens with the 4:15 games.

They're obviously not catering to the Sunday Ticket crowd that likes to have access to all of the games.
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Old 07-02-2012, 02:18 PM   #3282
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Old 07-02-2012, 02:19 PM   #3283
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Interesting question to ponder during the slow time of the football year.

Abraham has 112.0 career sacks (6 years of 10+ sacks).

The 112.0 sacks places him 16th on the all-time list (Sacks stat has only been kept since 1982).

When I evaluate pass rushers, I love to look at forced fumbles. Abraham has 38 forced fumbles for his career....a nice number, but not an eye popping number of forced fumbles for being in the league 12 years.

Abraham has never led the league in sacks and has been in the top five twice during his 12 year career.

Abraham is 34 years old....even with a few more years of decent sack numbers, I don't think he will make the Hall of Fame.

A very good player and a tenacious pass rusher, but I don't think of him as the elite of the elite, which is what you need for admission to the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

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Old 07-02-2012, 02:26 PM   #3284
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Interesting question to ponder during the slow time of the football year.

Abraham has 112.0 career sacks (6 years of 10+ sacks).

The 112.0 sacks places him 16th on the all-time list (Sacks stat has only been kept since 1982).

When I evaluate pass rushers, I love to look at forced fumbles. Abraham has 38 forced fumbles for his career....a nice number, but not an eye popping number of forced fumbles for being in the league 12 years.

Abraham has never led the league in sacks and has been in the top five twice during his 12 year career.

Abraham is 34 years old....even with a few more years of decent sack numbers, I don't think he will make the Hall of Fame.

A very good player and a tenacious pass rusher, but I don't think of him as the elite of the elite, which is what you need for admission to the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

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That's a similar discussion to one that Broncos fans have, occasionally. Rod Smith was an excellent player, but not worthy of Canton enshrinement (in my mind).
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Old 07-02-2012, 03:12 PM   #3285
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Report: Vick wedding cost $300,000

$300,000 price tag for something that will probably result in him dividing his assets in half a few years down the line....after getting cleaned out already in bankruptcy court in the last few years.

How to turn a few hundred million dollars into nothing in no time - by Michael Vick.
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Old 07-02-2012, 03:29 PM   #3286
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Report: Vick wedding cost $300,000

$300,000 price tag for something that will probably result in him dividing his assets in half a few years down the line....after getting cleaned out already in bankruptcy court in the last few years.

How to turn a few hundred million dollars into nothing in no time - by Michael Vick.
In 2004 he Vick was the bees knees. There were talks of him potentially being the next Michael Jordan level player. He had a huge deal with the Falcons and multiple endorsement deals. Talk about a guy throwing literally everything away.
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Old 07-02-2012, 04:30 PM   #3287
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Interesting question to ponder during the slow time of the football year.

Abraham has 112.0 career sacks (6 years of 10+ sacks).

The 112.0 sacks places him 16th on the all-time list (Sacks stat has only been kept since 1982).

When I evaluate pass rushers, I love to look at forced fumbles. Abraham has 38 forced fumbles for his career....a nice number, but not an eye popping number of forced fumbles for being in the league 12 years.

Abraham has never led the league in sacks and has been in the top five twice during his 12 year career.

Abraham is 34 years old....even with a few more years of decent sack numbers, I don't think he will make the Hall of Fame.

A very good player and a tenacious pass rusher, but I don't think of him as the elite of the elite, which is what you need for admission to the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

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I'm pretty sure it was Popps that was calling a injury prone when Denver was chasing him when he was a FA for the Jets. Man what could have been.
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Old 07-02-2012, 04:35 PM   #3288
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I like this move....I'm always finishing up watching the early games and then have to switch over for the Denver kickoff and miss what happened at the very end of the early games.

This will help people watch the end of the early games in their entirety.
I have waited for this to happen ever since we moved away from Denver about 35 years ago!
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Old 07-02-2012, 07:46 PM   #3289
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A defensive end who is on his way to the Hall of Fame is Jared Allen.

Kansas City was foolish to trade away a Hall of Famer entering his prime years.

Jared Allen had 22 sacks last year....a half sack away from the all-time record.

He has 105.0 sacks, 26 forced fumbles, 16 fumble recoveries, and 5 INTs in 8 years.

Seasons of 22 sacks, 15.5 sacks, 14.5 sacks, 14.5 sacks, 11.0 sacks, 11.0 sacks, 9.0 sacks, and 7.5 sacks.

Plus, he is an all around defensive player, who plays the run well and will pick of an occasional pass.

Jared Allen turned 30 earlier in the year....he could very easily challenge the all-time sack mark of 200.0 sacks, held by Bruce Smith.
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Old 07-02-2012, 07:57 PM   #3290
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A defensive end who is on his way to the Hall of Fame is Jared Allen.

Kansas City was foolish to trade away a Hall of Famer entering his prime years.

Jared Allen had 22 sacks last year....a half sack away from the all-time record.

He has 105.0 sacks, 26 forced fumbles, 16 fumble recoveries, and 5 INTs in 8 years.

Seasons of 22 sacks, 15.5 sacks, 14.5 sacks, 14.5 sacks, 11.0 sacks, 11.0 sacks, 9.0 sacks, and 7.5 sacks.

Plus, he is an all around defensive player, who plays the run well and will pick of an occasional pass.

Jared Allen turned 30 earlier in the year....he could very easily challenge the all-time sack mark of 200.0 sacks, held by Bruce Smith.
Without trading Allen KFC wouldn't that dude who has his job now, what ever his name is.
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Old 07-02-2012, 08:04 PM   #3291
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I don't know about 'very easily'.
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I don't know about 'very easily'.
I didn't say it would be easy, but I could 'very easily' see him breaking the record if he stays healthy and keeps notching sacks the way he has.

Jared Allen is a stud and is still in his prime.

I don't see him fading away any time soon.
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Old 07-02-2012, 09:24 PM   #3293
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I'm pretty sure it was Popps that was calling a injury prone when Denver was chasing him when he was a FA for the Jets. Man what could have been.
Well he was injury prone in NY and Atlanta.
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Old 07-02-2012, 09:54 PM   #3294
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Eight players are eligible for the supplemental draft
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I wonder if Oakland is going to take the fastest of those 8 guys.
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Old 07-02-2012, 10:52 PM   #3296
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Well he was injury prone in NY and Atlanta.
Yeah you're right those ten games he missed in 6 seasons while at Atlanta really over shadow the 58.5 sacks during that time frame.
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Old 07-05-2012, 07:57 PM   #3297
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Old 07-05-2012, 08:42 PM   #3298
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In 2004 he Vick was the bees knees. There were talks of him potentially being the next Michael Jordan level player. He had a huge deal with the Falcons and multiple endorsement deals. Talk about a guy throwing literally everything away.
From "The Bee's knees" to "The Ho's nose".

Oh, how the mighty have fallen!
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