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maven · 09-21-2011, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by bfoflcommish

Dominik Hixon out for a 2nd straight year with torn acl

Probably done now.

SouthStndJunkie · 09-22-2011, 02:22 PM

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...me-suspension/

Cedric Benson gets three-game suspension

Drunk Monkey · 10-11-2011, 06:04 AM

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=txnflinjuries

Super Mario out for the season, sucks for the Texans

TonyR · 10-11-2011, 06:23 AM

They hate Asomugha in Philly right now. They're making him one of the fall guys for the overall bad performance of their defense. He's been very mediocre in their scheme, has been beat a few times, and isn't tackling well. Eagles fans are wishing they'd have spent the $60 million on the LB position instead.

SouthStndJunkie · 10-11-2011, 09:03 PM

Only days after he reportedly was benched for running his mouth, receiver Derrick Mason has been shipped to the Texans, according to John McClain of the Houston Chronicle.

Per McClain, the Jets traded Mason to the Texans for a conditional draft choice.

schaaf · 10-11-2011, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by SouthStndJunkie

Only days after he reportedly was benched for running his mouth, receiver Derrick Mason has been shipped to the Texans, according to John McClain of the Houston Chronicle.

Per McClain, the Jets traded Mason to the Texans for a conditional draft choice.

Wow if they went by that model they would have to trade everyone on their team

SouthStndJunkie · 10-18-2011, 02:31 PM

The Eagles traded running back Ronnie Brown to the Detroit Lions for running back Jerome Harrison and a seventh-round 2013 draft pick.

bendog · 10-18-2011, 02:53 PM

hmmm. Wonder what Knowshow might have gotten.

Mediator12 · 10-18-2011, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by TonyR

They hate Asomugha in Philly right now. They're making him one of the fall guys for the overall bad performance of their defense. He's been very mediocre in their scheme, has been beat a few times, and isn't tackling well. Eagles fans are wishing they'd have spent the $60 million on the LB position instead.

PHI has totally F'd with there Defensive scheme since Jimmy Johnson passed. Losing Stewart Bradley has really hurt their MIKE position too. PHI is a lot better talent wise than their record indicates, and defensive coaching is the primary reason IMHO.

The new DC, Juan Castillo, is playing way too much zone BS with Asomugha right now. Really not optimizing a player like him is KILLING their defense IMHO, not Asomugha getting beat playing deep zone crossing routes. Andy Reid letting Castillo be the new DC might be his downfall there in PHI.

DENVERDUI55 · 10-19-2011, 03:49 PM

Med I think Bradley was s one hit wonder. He has been bad in az this year. May be their scheme.

SouthStndJunkie · 10-20-2011, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Mediator12

PHI has totally F'd with there Defensive scheme since Jimmy Johnson passed. Losing Stewart Bradley has really hurt their MIKE position too. PHI is a lot better talent wise than their record indicates, and defensive coaching is the primary reason IMHO.

The new DC, Juan Castillo, is playing way too much zone BS with Asomugha right now. Really not optimizing a player like him is KILLING their defense IMHO, not Asomugha getting beat playing deep zone crossing routes. Andy Reid letting Castillo be the new DC might be his downfall there in PHI.

I agree...Juan Castillo coached their offensive line for the last 13 years and then they moved him over to be the DC....made no sense to me at the time.

I think Castillo wanted to move to the defensive side of the ball, but why not let him cut his teeth as a position coach on defense for a few years?

SouthStndJunkie · 10-20-2011, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by SouthStndJunkie

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...me-suspension/

Cedric Benson gets three-game suspension

Looks like this has been reduced to a one game suspension.

Simple Jake · 10-20-2011, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by SouthStndJunkie

The Eagles traded running back Ronnie Brown to the Detroit Lions for running back Jerome Harrison and a seventh-round 2013 draft pick.

Not sure if this has been posted somewhere.. apparently the trade didn't go through because Harrison failed his physical.. apparently during the physical it was discovered that Harrison had a brain tumor.. this trade possibly saved his life.. crazy stuff

bendog · 10-21-2011, 07:27 AM

James Harrison + brain tumor > knowshow?

TonyR · 10-21-2011, 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Mediator12

PHI is a lot better talent wise than their record indicates...

They played a lot better in D.C. last week beating the Skins. Will be interesting to see if they keep it up against Dallas next week and turn things around. I still think this team can possibly win 9-10 games.

Kaylore · 10-21-2011, 07:40 AM

Spending a bunch on free agents never works. You can sign a few, but every year one team (usually the Redskins) goes and blows their load on all the "best" free agents and every year that team ends up sucking.

DENVERDUI55 · 10-21-2011, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Simple Jake

Not sure if this has been posted somewhere.. apparently the trade didn't go through because Harrison failed his physical.. apparently during the physical it was discovered that Harrison had a brain tumor.. this trade possibly saved his life.. crazy stuff

Same thing happened with Kevin Curtis a couple years ago. Eagles were trading him to Vikings and the Viking medical staff found cancer tumor that saved his life.

BroncoBuff · 10-23-2011, 04:07 PM

Six sacks in six games for Von Miller is damned impressive.

Stupid Jared Allen racked up two more today, now 11.5 on the season ... all-time record pace.

BroncoBuff · 10-23-2011, 04:14 PM

Vikings turned the offense over to Ponder today.

If he starts eight games, and Gabbert also manages eightvor more, here's a funny fact: Of the 15 QBs drafted in the first round the past 6 years, only 3 failed to start the majority of their team's games their rookie year: Tim Tebow, Jay cutler and Brady Quinn.

TonyR · 10-26-2011, 06:32 AM

His record on acquiring players was always suspect, even before Snyder gave him control of the roster. One of the biggest criticisms of Shanahan from football people is that he didn’t listen enough to his scouts, that he relied too much on highlight tapes, picking a player’s 10 best plays and saying he would coach him to that level. This has served him well at times. His worst critics say he has often overcome bad personnel decisions with good coaching. He has made players better. And once his run-blocking schemes took hold in Denver the Broncos trampled over AFC West defenses.

But the same hubris led him to believe he could do better than what Andy Reid accomplished for a decade in Philadelphia in disguising McNabb’s stubbornness and passive-aggressive leadership. He figured with a few adjustments McNabb could be a three- or four-year bridge to that next great quarterback. This, of course, was a disaster. McNabb did not adapt to change. He struggled to run Shanahan’s offense, bouncing passes and failing to find the best receiving targets. Before the end of the first season he was banished to the bench and ultimately traded to Minnesota where he has already blown up less than two months into the season.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slu...n_mcnabb102511

Shanny should have stuck with Jason Campbell. The Skins are done. I wonder how many more years Snyder gives him?

DENVERDUI55 · 10-26-2011, 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by BroncoBuff

Six sacks in six games for Von Miller is damned impressive.

Stupid Jared Allen racked up two more today, now 11.5 on the season ... all-time record pace.

I'm glad he left KC. He is a HOF so far in his career. What did they use their picks on for him anyways I can't remember.

Shananahan · 10-26-2011, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by TonyR

Shanny should have stuck with Jason Campbell. The Skins are done. I wonder how many more years Snyder gives him?

It will be interesting to see what happens if the Skins walk away with one of the top guys not named Andrew Luck. Barkley looks like a player Shanny could have some fun with.

Tombstone RJ · 10-26-2011, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by TonyR

His record on acquiring players was always suspect, even before Snyder gave him control of the roster. One of the biggest criticisms of Shanahan from football people is that he didn’t listen enough to his scouts, that he relied too much on highlight tapes, picking a player’s 10 best plays and saying he would coach him to that level. This has served him well at times. His worst critics say he has often overcome bad personnel decisions with good coaching. He has made players better. And once his run-blocking schemes took hold in Denver the Broncos trampled over AFC West defenses.

But the same hubris led him to believe he could do better than what Andy Reid accomplished for a decade in Philadelphia in disguising McNabb’s stubbornness and passive-aggressive leadership. He figured with a few adjustments McNabb could be a three- or four-year bridge to that next great quarterback. This, of course, was a disaster. McNabb did not adapt to change. He struggled to run Shanahan’s offense, bouncing passes and failing to find the best receiving targets. Before the end of the first season he was banished to the bench and ultimately traded to Minnesota where he has already blown up less than two months into the season.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slu...n_mcnabb102511

Shanny should have stuck with Jason Campbell. The Skins are done. I wonder how many more years Snyder gives him?

I could have sworn the skins had a guy by the name of Bruce Allen. I mean, Shanny's not making all the personel decisions too, right? I'm sure Shanny and Allen discuss players but if the Skins are stupid enough to elevate Shanny's authority over Allen then they get what they deserve.

bronco militia · 10-26-2011, 11:07 AM

Shawne Merriman’s contract gets worse
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on October 26, 2011, 11:25 AM EDT
Getty Images
The Bills have paid linebacker Shawne Merriman $6.95 million over the last season and a half for one sack and nine tackles in five games.

Amazingly, Merriman’s contract appears to get worse for the Bills.

According to a January article by Tim Graham (formerly of ESPN.com), Merriman is guaranteed another $3 million in 2012. We’ve seen it written that the Bills had some injury protection for that money, but that no longer appears to be true.

Graham wrote that Merriman’s 2012 money was guaranteed the moment he was cleared to practice this year. In essence, his new Achilles injury is viewed as different problem than his old Achilles injury. So the Bills are on the hook for it.

Merriman is due $4 million in base salary in 2012 and a $1 million roster bonus next March. We can’t imagine the Bills will give him another chance, so they will basically have to pay him $3 million to go away.

Claiming and then signing Merriman never made any sense. I’ve heard from Bills fans that they had to take a roll of the dice to get some talent. That’s insane. The Bills have done so many things right in the Gailey/Nix era, but there is no defending the Merriman contract.

It was a terrible bet the moment the contract was signed. Merriman missed 30 games between 2008-2010, including 13 last year. He has 4 sacks since 2007. He was never going to make big money on the open market. Guaranteed base salaries are for star players; Merriman was not in that kind of bargaining position.

If the Bills wanted to take a risk on Merriman, they could have waited for him to be a free agent and given him something like a 1-year, $3 million contract. That’s more money than far more productive linebackers got after the lockout.

Instead, the Bills will wind up paying almost $10 million to Merriman for one sack. That apparently includes $3 million next year, when he may no longer even be in the NFL.

TonyR · 10-26-2011, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

Shanny's not making all the personel decisions too, right?

I agree, he probably shouldn't shoulder all of the blame. But right or wrong coaches are often the ultimate fall guys. It will be interesting to watch this play out. This team has 6-10 or 7-9, and a last place NFC East finish, written all over it.

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09-22-2011, 02:22 PM	#2927
SouthStndJunkie Ring of Famer Shannon Says: Listen to The Junkman Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 15,265	http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...me-suspension/ Cedric Benson gets three-game suspension

10-11-2011, 06:04 AM	#2928
Drunk Monkey Mars b****es!!! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 1,597	http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=txnflinjuries Super Mario out for the season, sucks for the Texans

10-11-2011, 06:23 AM	#2929
TonyR Franchise Poster Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Mid-Atlantic Posts: 15,587	They hate Asomugha in Philly right now. They're making him one of the fall guys for the overall bad performance of their defense. He's been very mediocre in their scheme, has been beat a few times, and isn't tackling well. Eagles fans are wishing they'd have spent the $60 million on the LB position instead.

10-11-2011, 09:03 PM	#2930
SouthStndJunkie Ring of Famer Shannon Says: Listen to The Junkman Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 15,265	Only days after he reportedly was benched for running his mouth, receiver Derrick Mason has been shipped to the Texans, according to John McClain of the Houston Chronicle. Per McClain, the Jets traded Mason to the Texans for a conditional draft choice.

10-18-2011, 02:31 PM	#2932
SouthStndJunkie Ring of Famer Shannon Says: Listen to The Junkman Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 15,265	The Eagles traded running back Ronnie Brown to the Detroit Lions for running back Jerome Harrison and a seventh-round 2013 draft pick.

10-18-2011, 02:53 PM	#2933
bendog Marginally Continent David Bowens, he'd be an upgrade Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Folsom Prison Posts: 19,935 Adopt-a-Bronco: David Bowens	hmmm. Wonder what Knowshow might have gotten.

10-19-2011, 03:49 PM	#2935
DENVERDUI55 Drunk on Arrival! New to the Forum Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,179 Adopt-a-Bronco: Montee Ball	Med I think Bradley was s one hit wonder. He has been bad in az this year. May be their scheme.

10-21-2011, 07:27 AM	#2939
bendog Marginally Continent David Bowens, he'd be an upgrade Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Folsom Prison Posts: 19,935 Adopt-a-Bronco: David Bowens	James Harrison + brain tumor > knowshow?

10-21-2011, 07:40 AM	#2941
Kaylore 6-37, Raider fans. Yummy birds and snow! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Ceti Alpha V Posts: 41,074 Adopt-a-Bronco: Wesley Duke	Spending a bunch on free agents never works. You can sign a few, but every year one team (usually the Redskins) goes and blows their load on all the "best" free agents and every year that team ends up sucking.

10-23-2011, 04:07 PM	#2943
BroncoBuff *************** Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Seattle Posts: 25,440 Adopt-a-Bronco: QUANTERUS SMITH	Six sacks in six games for Von Miller is damned impressive. Stupid Jared Allen racked up two more today, now 11.5 on the season ... all-time record pace.

10-23-2011, 04:14 PM	#2944
BroncoBuff *************** Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Seattle Posts: 25,440 Adopt-a-Bronco: QUANTERUS SMITH	Vikings turned the offense over to Ponder today. If he starts eight games, and Gabbert also manages eightvor more, here's a funny fact: Of the 15 QBs drafted in the first round the past 6 years, only 3 failed to start the majority of their team's games their rookie year: Tim Tebow, Jay cutler and Brady Quinn.

10-26-2011, 06:32 AM	#2945
TonyR Franchise Poster Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Mid-Atlantic Posts: 15,587	His record on acquiring players was always suspect, even before Snyder gave him control of the roster. One of the biggest criticisms of Shanahan from football people is that he didn’t listen enough to his scouts, that he relied too much on highlight tapes, picking a player’s 10 best plays and saying he would coach him to that level. This has served him well at times. His worst critics say he has often overcome bad personnel decisions with good coaching. He has made players better. And once his run-blocking schemes took hold in Denver the Broncos trampled over AFC West defenses. But the same hubris led him to believe he could do better than what Andy Reid accomplished for a decade in Philadelphia in disguising McNabb’s stubbornness and passive-aggressive leadership. He figured with a few adjustments McNabb could be a three- or four-year bridge to that next great quarterback. This, of course, was a disaster. McNabb did not adapt to change. He struggled to run Shanahan’s offense, bouncing passes and failing to find the best receiving targets. Before the end of the first season he was banished to the bench and ultimately traded to Minnesota where he has already blown up less than two months into the season. http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slu...n_mcnabb102511 Shanny should have stuck with Jason Campbell. The Skins are done. I wonder how many more years Snyder gives him?

10-26-2011, 11:07 AM	#2949
bronco militia Ring of Famer THE GREATEST Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: colorado springs, co Posts: 22,591	Shawne Merriman’s contract gets worse Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on October 26, 2011, 11:25 AM EDT Getty Images The Bills have paid linebacker Shawne Merriman $6.95 million over the last season and a half for one sack and nine tackles in five games. Amazingly, Merriman’s contract appears to get worse for the Bills. According to a January article by Tim Graham (formerly of ESPN.com), Merriman is guaranteed another $3 million in 2012. We’ve seen it written that the Bills had some injury protection for that money, but that no longer appears to be true. Graham wrote that Merriman’s 2012 money was guaranteed the moment he was cleared to practice this year. In essence, his new Achilles injury is viewed as different problem than his old Achilles injury. So the Bills are on the hook for it. Merriman is due $4 million in base salary in 2012 and a $1 million roster bonus next March. We can’t imagine the Bills will give him another chance, so they will basically have to pay him $3 million to go away. Claiming and then signing Merriman never made any sense. I’ve heard from Bills fans that they had to take a roll of the dice to get some talent. That’s insane. The Bills have done so many things right in the Gailey/Nix era, but there is no defending the Merriman contract. It was a terrible bet the moment the contract was signed. Merriman missed 30 games between 2008-2010, including 13 last year. He has 4 sacks since 2007. He was never going to make big money on the open market. Guaranteed base salaries are for star players; Merriman was not in that kind of bargaining position. If the Bills wanted to take a risk on Merriman, they could have waited for him to be a free agent and given him something like a 1-year, $3 million contract. That’s more money than far more productive linebackers got after the lockout. Instead, the Bills will wind up paying almost $10 million to Merriman for one sack. That apparently includes $3 million next year, when he may no longer even be in the NFL.