With Boss done... - The Orange Mane

TerrElway · 10-22-2008, 02:38 PM

...Does the team migrate back to a 4-3 look? The 3-4 was to get the supposedly great LB's all on the field, at least that was what was cited in some reports.

With one of those backers down, does the 3-4 emphasis fade away? Is it a big loss? Run stuffing and sacks were also cited as reasons for the increased use of the 3-4. The sacks have gone up but the team has still lost 3 of 4 games and the run defense has gotten worse.

Discuss.

socalorado · 10-22-2008, 02:45 PM

His moniker is WWIII

I actually would like to see him at SS, but as long as hes ON THE FIELD, I could care less.

broncofan2438 · 10-22-2008, 02:56 PM

I would think they might have to go back to a 4-3 look. Eventhough Boss was fragile, he was pretty quick. Maybe Niko gets in there and kicks some ass

cutthemdown · 10-22-2008, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by broncofan2438

I would think they might have to go back to a 4-3 look. Eventhough Boss was fragile, he was pretty quick. Maybe Niko gets in there and kicks some ass

Or maybe Palin will fly.

footstepsfrom#27 · 10-22-2008, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by TerrElway

The 3-4 was to get the supposedly great LB's all on the field, at least that was what was cited in some reports.

Did somebody actually report that we have great linebackers?

Scrap the 3-4...these are the things we should ask:

1) Do we have a massive run stuffing monster at NT? No
2) Do we have 300 pound plus DE's who can stop the run? No
3) Do we have big fast OLB's who can blitz and sack the QB? No
4) Do we have a coach who can coach it? No

All this means is that we are now virtually assured of going with the 3-4.

I just want to see WWIII and Larsen get in the game and lay some wood.

elpasojoe · 10-22-2008, 03:13 PM

Don't give up on the 3-4, but do keep Webster and Niko off the field. I want Winborn and Larsen on the field. I am tired of looking at anybody else.

BigPlayShay · 10-22-2008, 03:14 PM

We didn't scrap it when he left the game. Louis Green came in and ran it, so that leads me to believe they are having Green practice it in case Boss were to go down. They are going to keep with it.

orange crusher · 10-22-2008, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by footstepsfrom#27

Did somebody actually report that we have great linebackers?

I've heard that several times during games and I keep wondering what they're smokin'.

Lolad · 10-22-2008, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by orange crusher

I've heard that several times during games and I keep wondering what they're smokin'.

same here.. "Denver has one of the fastest LB cores in the NFL, they run sideline to sideline with tremendous speed"

I think part of our problem is the LB's playing so tight together (small DE's). If you notice all the runs came on the edge of the defense. I think they should use more of their lateral quickness that everyone graces them with and make a play.

barryr · 10-22-2008, 03:47 PM

I guess if LB's are judged by the ability to tackle 20 yards downfield, the Broncos are hard to beat there, though would be nice if more tackles and plays made around the line of scrimmage. But that's me.

Punisher · 10-22-2008, 04:06 PM

**** Boss he stinks start Woodyard and cut Boss at the end of the season

PRBronco · 10-22-2008, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by barryr

I guess if LB's are judged by the ability to tackle 20 yards downfield, the Broncos are hard to beat there, though would be nice if more tackles and plays made around the line of scrimmage. But that's me.

Actually 20 yards downfield is out of Nate's range

He's only good for 10 or so.

As for the OP, yes I hope this signifies a shift away from the 3-4 action. It was a cute gimmick that tricked Drew Brees for a sec, now it's just sad

BigPlayShay · 10-22-2008, 04:18 PM

It did create pressure however, and Cassel did a fantastic job of just taking the sack. If we can get that kind of pressure against other QBs that may try to take some chances and throw the ball in the face or pressure or scramble then maybe we could get more Turnovers. Not only that but QBs may be willing to take more chances in the face or pressure without Champ on the field. Wishful thinking, but whatever gets pressure.

cutthemdown · 10-22-2008, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Punisher

**** Boss he stinks start Woodyard and cut Boss at the end of the season

You do that and you might have to trade Champ.

This whole fiasco, Champ's age, Boss stinking makes that trade Champ for 2 first round picks comment I made seem a little less stupid now huh?

bap454 · 10-22-2008, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by cutthemdown

You do that and you might have to trade Champ.

This whole fiasco, Champ's age, Boss stinking makes that trade Champ for 2 first round picks comment I made seem a little less stupid now huh?

not so fast... we would be lucky to get a third for him as is. So your comment is screwed both ways.

cutthemdown · 10-22-2008, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by bap454

not so fast... we would be lucky to get a third for him as is. So your comment is screwed both ways.

Uh no we would have gotten more then that had we traded him last offseason.

Even now by the time trading champ would be an option, next offseason, he would be healed and easily still worth a top 10 first round pick IMO.

Obviously you won't be able to screw Boss by cutting him and expect big brother to want to stick around and play for a team that stinks on defense. That's more my point this whole thing, not that trading champ would have been the smart move.

broncolife · 10-22-2008, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by BigPlayShay

We didn't scrap it when he left the game. Louis Green came in and ran it, so that leads me to believe they are having Green practice it in case Boss were to go down. They are going to keep with it.

Green sucks, he couldnt fight off Lowrys cut block

10-22-2008, 02:38 PM	#1
TerrElway Seasoned Veteran Join Date: May 2003 Location: Northern Utah Posts: 478	With Boss done... ...Does the team migrate back to a 4-3 look? The 3-4 was to get the supposedly great LB's all on the field, at least that was what was cited in some reports. With one of those backers down, does the 3-4 emphasis fade away? Is it a big loss? Run stuffing and sacks were also cited as reasons for the increased use of the 3-4. The sacks have gone up but the team has still lost 3 of 4 games and the run defense has gotten worse. Discuss.

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10-22-2008, 02:45 PM	#2
socalorado Ring of Famer Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 5,212	His moniker is WWIII I actually would like to see him at SS, but as long as hes ON THE FIELD, I could care less.

10-22-2008, 02:56 PM	#3
broncofan2438 Faneco this... LETS TAKE BACK THE AFC WEST Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: California Posts: 6,302 Adopt-a-Bronco: ERIC DECKER	I would think they might have to go back to a 4-3 look. Eventhough Boss was fragile, he was pretty quick. Maybe Niko gets in there and kicks some ass

10-22-2008, 03:13 PM	#6
elpasojoe Solid Starter Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: El Paso, TX, originally Ordway (southeast) Colorado Posts: 154	Don't give up on the 3-4, but do keep Webster and Niko off the field. I want Winborn and Larsen on the field. I am tired of looking at anybody else.

10-22-2008, 03:14 PM	#7
BigPlayShay Ring of Famer Novaking Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 4,238 Adopt-a-Bronco: Got Cut	We didn't scrap it when he left the game. Louis Green came in and ran it, so that leads me to believe they are having Green practice it in case Boss were to go down. They are going to keep with it.

10-22-2008, 03:47 PM	#10
barryr Ring of Famer New to the Forum Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 8,267 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	I guess if LB's are judged by the ability to tackle 20 yards downfield, the Broncos are hard to beat there, though would be nice if more tackles and plays made around the line of scrimmage. But that's me.

10-22-2008, 04:06 PM	#11
Punisher ® You Tell The NFL! We're coming for That Belt! WOOOOO® Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Broncos Video Vault Posts: 6,629 Adopt-a-Bronco: i4jelway7	**** Boss he stinks start Woodyard and cut Boss at the end of the season

10-22-2008, 04:18 PM	#13
BigPlayShay Ring of Famer Novaking Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 4,238 Adopt-a-Bronco: Got Cut	It did create pressure however, and Cassel did a fantastic job of just taking the sack. If we can get that kind of pressure against other QBs that may try to take some chances and throw the ball in the face or pressure or scramble then maybe we could get more Turnovers. Not only that but QBs may be willing to take more chances in the face or pressure without Champ on the field. Wishful thinking, but whatever gets pressure.