Obama Takes a 10 Point Lead - The Orange Mane

Rohirrim · 10-21-2008, 03:35 PM

NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll. Not looking good for the Bile Moose Party.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27297013/

Obama leads among independents 49% to 37%. Ouch.

47% now see Palin in a negative light.

frerottenextelway · 10-21-2008, 03:37 PM

14 point lead in the PEW report that came out today. I think PEW and NBC are the two best polling firms out there. NBC really nailed 2004, never once having John Kerry ahead of King George.

Rohirrim · 10-21-2008, 03:57 PM

In the survey, Obama also holds commanding leads on the issues — especially economic ones. He has a 39-point advantage over McCain in handling health care (59 to 20 percent), a 21-point edge on improving the economy (49 to 28), a 21-point lead on the mortgage and housing crisis (45 to 24), a 17-point edge on dealing with the Wall Street crisis (42 to 25), a 14-point lead on taxes (48 to 34) and a 12-point advantage on energy and the cost of gas (44 to 32).

Rohirrim · 10-21-2008, 04:05 PM

Chuck Todd just said these numbers represent a swing toward Obama by seniors, which would be the death knell of the McCain campaign.

Rohirrim · 10-21-2008, 04:12 PM

I wonder if the Colin Powell endorsement moved the senior vote?

peacepipe · 10-21-2008, 04:43 PM

the Gallup poll has it at
Obama 52%
McCain 41%

likely voters(expanded)
Obama 52%
McCain 42%

likely voters (traditionally)
Obama 51%
McCain 44%

Paladin · 10-21-2008, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Rohirrim

I wonder if the Colin Powell endorsement moved the senior vote?

Let's just say he sent a chill down their bodies....

Paladin · 10-21-2008, 05:04 PM

Now, if this translates to EC votes......

Bob · 10-21-2008, 05:08 PM

I guess the message is that conservatives should not vote?

Paladin · 10-21-2008, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob

I guess the message is that conservatives should not vote?

Well, it might help preserve the country if they didn't......

frerottenextelway · 10-21-2008, 05:14 PM

Nate Silver says what I've been saying, it's all about early voters. The polls that have a ''likely voter'' model are trending way towards Obama because peeps that they previously eliminated as 'not likely to vote' based on past voting trends have, in fact, already voted and now count in their polling.

Play2win · 10-21-2008, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Paladin

Well, it might help preserve the country if they didn't......

Or maybe the conservatives should vote for the more fiscally conservative and responsible party... The DEMOCRATS

JCMElway · 10-21-2008, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob

I guess the message is that conservatives should not vote?

DAMN SKIPPY!

L.A. BRONCOS FAN · 10-21-2008, 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob

I guess the message is that conservatives should not vote?

According to General Powell, the message is that conservatives should vote for Obama.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN · 10-21-2008, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Rohirrim

47% now see Palin in a negative light.

With an even higher percentage to follow when it becomes clear that she is dirty...

AP INVESTIGATION: Alaska funded Palin kids' travel (AP)

AP - Gov. Sarah Palin charged the state for her children to travel with her, including to events where they were not invited, and later amended expense reports to specify that they were on official business.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN · 10-21-2008, 05:48 PM

• Obama opens double-digit lead over McCain: poll

Drek · 10-21-2008, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob

I guess the message is that conservatives should not vote?

I think the message is more that maybe you should give your choices a sterner look, instead of voting the party line straight down the ticket without question.

McCain is a politician from the last century with no ideas to lead us forward in this new century. His VP is ridiculously unqualified (mentally, experience isn't nearly as big an issue as that). His staff is full of corruption and his likely choices for senior cabinet members are just as bad.

Obama on the other hand is one of the more intelligent Americans of a generation, has schooling and experience specifically in the political and legal spectrums, has new ideas in economics, social programs, energy, and foreign policy that are widely applauded by multiple experts in the field, and chose a VP candidate who is also mentally capable enough and experienced enough to help Obama quickly realize his goals.

I don't find it very surprising that more and more Americans are turning to Obama. It has nothing to do with an unpopular sitting president or anything else but the fact that Obama is simply the better candidate to lead this country further into this century as a prosperous, safe, and healthy nation.

El Minion · 10-21-2008, 07:04 PM

Didn't see this tidbit posted, but it is telling who won't even vote for McCain:

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.....So a canvasser goes to a woman's door in Washington, Pennsylvania. Knocks. Woman answers. Knocker asks who she's planning to vote for. She isn't sure, has to ask her husband who she's voting for. Husband is off in another room watching some game. Canvasser hears him yell back, "We're votin' for the n***er!"

Woman turns back to canvasser, and says brightly and matter of factly: "We're voting for the n***er."

In this economy, racism is officially a luxury. How is John McCain going to win if he can't win those voters? John Murtha's "racist" western Pennsylvania district, where this story takes place, is some of the roughest turf in the nation. But Barack Obama is on the ground and making inroads due to unusually strong organizing leadership....

L.A. BRONCOS FAN · 10-21-2008, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by El Minion

Quote:

Canvasser hears him yell back, "We're votin' for the n***er!"

Woman turns back to canvasser, and says brightly and matter of factly: "We're voting for the n***er."

L.A. BRONCOS FAN · 10-21-2008, 11:52 PM

In Pew Poll, Obama's Lead Widens: 52%-38%. "Obama’s gains notwithstanding, a widespread loss of confidence in McCain appears to be the most significant factor in the race at this point. Many more voters express doubts about McCain’s judgment than about Obama’s."

Bronco_Beerslug · 10-22-2008, 04:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob

I guess the message is that conservatives should not vote?

Good answer, pass it on to your friends.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN · 10-22-2008, 05:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Bronco_Beerslug

Good answer, pass it on to your friends.

Hey BB - long time no see.

I was starting to wonder if you'd been blown away by Ike or something.

Rohirrim · 10-22-2008, 05:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob

I guess the message is that conservatives should not vote?

I think it means your ideological foundation is dead and everybody is tired of your team ****ing up the whole planet.

W*GS · 10-22-2008, 06:15 AM

I just wonder how some of you will react when the 2x4 of the reality that Obama is just another scumbag politician hits you in the face.

If you're like me, you're never surprised when a politician ****s up - and that is one thing they are guaranteed to do. How will y'all react when Obama ****s up?

Rohirrim · 10-22-2008, 07:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by W*GS

I just wonder how some of you will react when the 2x4 of the reality that Obama is just another scumbag politician hits you in the face.

If you're like me, you're never surprised when a politician ****s up - and that is one thing they are guaranteed to do. How will y'all react when Obama ****s up?

If you walk the street with your head down constantly looking for ****, I guarantee you, you'll find some.

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10-21-2008, 03:37 PM	#2
frerottenextelway █████ █████ Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: █████ Posts: 7,888 Adopt-a-Bronco: ██	14 point lead in the PEW report that came out today. I think PEW and NBC are the two best polling firms out there. NBC really nailed 2004, never once having John Kerry ahead of King George.

10-21-2008, 03:57 PM	#3
Rohirrim Partisan Human Cannonball Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Twixt Hell & Highwater Posts: 48,842	In the survey, Obama also holds commanding leads on the issues — especially economic ones. He has a 39-point advantage over McCain in handling health care (59 to 20 percent), a 21-point edge on improving the economy (49 to 28), a 21-point lead on the mortgage and housing crisis (45 to 24), a 17-point edge on dealing with the Wall Street crisis (42 to 25), a 14-point lead on taxes (48 to 34) and a 12-point advantage on energy and the cost of gas (44 to 32).

10-21-2008, 04:05 PM	#4
Rohirrim Partisan Human Cannonball Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Twixt Hell & Highwater Posts: 48,842	Chuck Todd just said these numbers represent a swing toward Obama by seniors, which would be the death knell of the McCain campaign.

10-21-2008, 04:12 PM	#5
Rohirrim Partisan Human Cannonball Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Twixt Hell & Highwater Posts: 48,842	I wonder if the Colin Powell endorsement moved the senior vote?

10-21-2008, 04:43 PM	#6
peacepipe Ring of Famer New to the Forum Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 5,763 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	the Gallup poll has it at Obama 52% McCain 41% likely voters(expanded) Obama 52% McCain 42% likely voters (traditionally) Obama 51% McCain 44%

10-21-2008, 05:04 PM	#8
Paladin Ring of Famer Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 9,150	Now, if this translates to EC votes......

10-21-2008, 05:08 PM	#9
Bob Ring of Famer Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 5,330	I guess the message is that conservatives should not vote?

10-21-2008, 05:14 PM	#11
frerottenextelway █████ █████ Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: █████ Posts: 7,888 Adopt-a-Bronco: ██	Nate Silver says what I've been saying, it's all about early voters. The polls that have a ''likely voter'' model are trending way towards Obama because peeps that they previously eliminated as 'not likely to vote' based on past voting trends have, in fact, already voted and now count in their polling.

10-21-2008, 05:48 PM	#16
L.A. BRONCOS FAN Mo' holla fo' yo' dolla! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: In a bunker in an undisclosed location Posts: 52,694	• Obama opens double-digit lead over McCain: poll

10-21-2008, 11:52 PM	#20
L.A. BRONCOS FAN Mo' holla fo' yo' dolla! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: In a bunker in an undisclosed location Posts: 52,694	In Pew Poll, Obama's Lead Widens: 52%-38%. "Obama’s gains notwithstanding, a widespread loss of confidence in McCain appears to be the most significant factor in the race at this point. Many more voters express doubts about McCain’s judgment than about Obama’s."

10-22-2008, 06:15 AM	#24
W*GS Ring of Famer Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Earth Posts: 19,511	I just wonder how some of you will react when the 2x4 of the reality that Obama is just another scumbag politician hits you in the face. If you're like me, you're never surprised when a politician **s up - and that is one thing they are guaranteed to do. How will y'all react when Obama **s up?