Mediator’s team rankings Week 7: - The Orange Mane

Mediator12 · 10-20-2008, 11:01 AM

(The way I look at it is teams that have been consistent, won tough games, and are playing better now than they were in week one and are trending upward. This is how I have seen it to this point with teams looking better and playing consistently.)

First Tier Teams:

1. PIT- Simply the most complete and balanced team in the league.
2. NYG-Second most complete team that showed flaws if Pass rush is ineffective or blocked.
3. TEN-Defense keeps them in games and ground attack is formidable. Vince Who?
4. BUF-Most improved team in the league, playing consistent, won games they could have lost. Sole loss was without Trent Edwards and to a much improved ARI team.

Second Tier Teams:

5. TB- Offense struggled versus DEN, but has been great with Garcia the last 2 weeks. Defense is adjusting to new scheme with TO's and giving up less big plays than first 3 games.
6. ARI-Much more balanced than in the past on offense, Defense is getting better each week.
7. CAR-Rallied to beat NO after getting handled by TB last week. Have better balance on offense and Defense is playing very well, especially up front.
8. WAS-Passing game has been extraordinarily inconsistent, but Defense is quietly one of the best in the league. They would be higher if they were not so inconsistent week to week. Portis is top Rusher in the NFL.

Third Tier Teams:

9. PHI-Getting better and playing OK with all the injuries.
10. ATL-OK, this is the state of the NFL right now. ATL stole a solid Victory in a game they could have easily lost 2 weeks ago.
11. JAX- Injuries have killed them, yet they are still .500 coming off a win and a much needed bye week.
12. GB-Winning games with offense and better secondary play.
13. NYJ-Defense is getting better and offense is good enough. Struggled against OAK this week.
14. DEN-Offense has scored an average of 17 points the last 3 games, and the defense is bottom 5 in the league on their good days. They could be higher if Offense catches fire against NE tonight.

Outside just looking in:

NO-Offense is solid; DEF is making very slow strides. Injuries are catching up to them though.
DAL-Not who they thought they were (thanks Dennis Green). Lost 3 0f 4 and starting QB. Starters are tops in league, depth is going to be their downfall.
SD-Inconsistency is killing this team, should be 4-3 or better. Defense is an enigma.
CHI-Who would have thought their defense would give up 41 points and they could still Win?
BAL-Defense always gives them a chance. Offense is heavy run dependent and OL is inconsistent.

The rest are just not fun to differentiate. Who would have dreamed that INDY and NE would not be here and SD and DAL would be outside looking in after 7 weeks?

Rohirrim · 10-20-2008, 11:22 AM

I think the Norv Turner effect is sinking in.

Traveler · 10-20-2008, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Rohirrim

I think the Norv Turner effect is sinking in.

The downside being they'll have a shot at some pretty nice defensive players in the upcoming draft if the Turner effect continues.

TheReverend · 10-20-2008, 12:09 PM

TB and AZ don't belong in that second tier (though I appreciate the mention).

Arizona is definitely not as good as Denver, but their defense does have more attitude.

BroncoMan4ever · 10-20-2008, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by TheReverend

TB and AZ don't belong in that second tier (though I appreciate the mention).

Arizona is definitely not as good as Denver, but their defense does have more attitude.

hell a 6 year old girl has more attitude than our defense has had all this season and all of last season.

bronco militia · 10-20-2008, 12:36 PM

solid thread...

don't agree with Arizona or the Jets.

Garcia Bronco · 10-20-2008, 12:38 PM

I think we are a 2nd tier team

Rock Chalk · 10-20-2008, 12:51 PM

There are three teams at the top in no particular order: NYG, Tenn, Pitt.

There are a bunch of teams at the second level in no particular order: Buff, Denver, Arizona, Carolina, Washington, Tampa, Jacksonville, Chicago, Green Bay, Atlanta, Dallas. Anyone of these teams can beat any one of the others on any given day.

Then there is everyone else.

Kaylore · 10-20-2008, 12:54 PM

Unlike most people, I'm not sold on Pitt. They've barely beat some marginal opponents. Their offensive line sucks and they have struggled offensively.

BroncoBuff · 10-20-2008, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaylore

Unlike most people, I'm not sold on Pitt. They've barely beat some marginal opponents. Their offensive line sucks and they have struggled offensively.

Yeah, it was a MAJOR sieve on MNF a couple weeks ago ... I almost felt sorry for Ben.

broncogary · 10-20-2008, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Mediator12

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3. TEN-Defense keeps them in games and ground attack is formidable. Vince Who?

What you don't understand is that VY is "willing" them to wins, even from the bench.

Smiling Assassin27 · 10-20-2008, 01:09 PM

I'd put us in Tier 2 alongside the Foreskins and Panthies.

broncosteven · 10-20-2008, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco militia

solid thread...

don't agree with Arizona or the Jets.

I agree with AZ, not the Jets.

ludo21 · 10-20-2008, 01:58 PM

I stil think the Chargers are in that 3rd tier as of now. I know they have sucked it up, but they cant drop this fast, can they?

Also, I wouldnt count out the Rams from the NFC W. Dont laugh. I love my hometown AZ Cards, but they always fall apart, all the time. Rams are a different team with Haslett running things, and only 2 games down. I think this could happen.

summerdenver · 10-21-2008, 07:15 AM

Chi deserves to be better, they are the only team that had led in all games in the 4th quarter even the losses and ther record could have better. They are winning without their 3 starting cbs.

Den should be lower, watching the game last night i thought it could not get worse but I realize it will because den will play without Champ in the coming weeks.

Mediator12 · 10-21-2008, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by TheReverend

TB and AZ don't belong in that second tier (though I appreciate the mention).

Arizona is definitely not as good as Denver, but their defense does have more attitude.

Teams are ranked by how well they are playing now and getting better each week. In that Case, ARI and TB are playing very good football right now. Both blew games they should have won several weeks ago, but then came out and played very strong in response.

DEN just dropped out entirely losing 3 of 4 in rather awful performances....

Mediator12 · 10-21-2008, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by bronco militia

solid thread...

don't agree with Arizona or the Jets.

The Jets defense keeps them in the third tier. I would say they should have been moved down to 14 after the loss to OAK though. Missed that in my updates. I'll change that.

BTW, OAK played very well against the Jets.

Rohirrim · 10-21-2008, 07:38 AM

The Broncos have become a footnote.

Mediator12 · 10-21-2008, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaylore

Unlike most people, I'm not sold on Pitt. They've barely beat some marginal opponents. Their offensive line sucks and they have struggled offensively.

This team is much better after the Bye week healed them up. They absolutely mauled CIN and that was with their third string RB. DEF is also getting much better. As I said, the rankings are weighted to teams trending up.

TheReverend · 10-21-2008, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Mediator12

Teams are ranked by how well they are playing now and getting better each week. In that Case, ARI and TB are playing very good football right now. Both blew games they should have won several weeks ago, but then came out and played very strong in response.

DEN just dropped out entirely losing 3 of 4 in rather awful performances....

...speaking of, why don't you answer your PMs?

Mediator12 · 10-21-2008, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by TheReverend

...speaking of, why don't you answer your PMs?

I do not have any new ones. OH, I think I glossed over one from a couple of weeks ago. Sorry dude, not been around much. I'll get to it!

TheReverend · 10-21-2008, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Mediator12

I do not have any new ones. OH, I think I glossed over one from a couple of weeks ago. Sorry dude, not been around much. I'll get to it!

When you can, it's far from urgent but it'd be a fun little project if you have the time.

Also, wtf are you making out of all of this?

DJ played awesome the first five weeks, and had a few good plays yesterday but he just got chewed up last night. Every short yardage play, and every big gain play was to the weak side, AND bounced outside of Elvis.

...and intermediate coverage ALL season long. The LBs drops are crazy. You're not cutting off any passing lanes 15-20 yards down-field, especially when these princesses can't come up and make a pop at the catch.

That Foxworth trading is looking worse and worse. We ended the game with starting corners of Jack Williams and Karl Paymah, and I couldn't even name who's going to be coming up in nickel situations.

The bye week couldn't come at a better time. They've got a TON of **** to figure out on both sides of the ball.

Garcia Bronco · 10-21-2008, 07:52 AM

I take back my comment about us being a second tier team

CBF1 · 10-21-2008, 09:27 AM

Funny reading this now... This place if full of blind ass homers that know zero about football. Denver should be higher.... great one Garcia.

TheReverend · 10-21-2008, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by CBF1

Funny reading this now... This place if full of blind ass homers that know zero about football. Denver should be higher.... great one Garcia.

You're so right. After that loss we should obviously cancel the remaining majority of the season. Call the commish and hang it up, it's over.

10-20-2008, 11:01 AM	#1
Mediator12 OM analyst REAL Front Seven Bandwagon !!! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: INDY Posts: 9,701 Adopt-a-Bronco: Malik Jackson	Mediator’s team rankings Week 7: (The way I look at it is teams that have been consistent, won tough games, and are playing better now than they were in week one and are trending upward. This is how I have seen it to this point with teams looking better and playing consistently.) First Tier Teams: 1. PIT- Simply the most complete and balanced team in the league. 2. NYG-Second most complete team that showed flaws if Pass rush is ineffective or blocked. 3. TEN-Defense keeps them in games and ground attack is formidable. Vince Who? 4. BUF-Most improved team in the league, playing consistent, won games they could have lost. Sole loss was without Trent Edwards and to a much improved ARI team. Second Tier Teams: 5. TB- Offense struggled versus DEN, but has been great with Garcia the last 2 weeks. Defense is adjusting to new scheme with TO's and giving up less big plays than first 3 games. 6. ARI-Much more balanced than in the past on offense, Defense is getting better each week. 7. CAR-Rallied to beat NO after getting handled by TB last week. Have better balance on offense and Defense is playing very well, especially up front. 8. WAS-Passing game has been extraordinarily inconsistent, but Defense is quietly one of the best in the league. They would be higher if they were not so inconsistent week to week. Portis is top Rusher in the NFL. Third Tier Teams: 9. PHI-Getting better and playing OK with all the injuries. 10. ATL-OK, this is the state of the NFL right now. ATL stole a solid Victory in a game they could have easily lost 2 weeks ago. 11. JAX- Injuries have killed them, yet they are still .500 coming off a win and a much needed bye week. 12. GB-Winning games with offense and better secondary play. 13. NYJ-Defense is getting better and offense is good enough. Struggled against OAK this week. 14. DEN-Offense has scored an average of 17 points the last 3 games, and the defense is bottom 5 in the league on their good days. They could be higher if Offense catches fire against NE tonight. Outside just looking in: NO-Offense is solid; DEF is making very slow strides. Injuries are catching up to them though. DAL-Not who they thought they were (thanks Dennis Green). Lost 3 0f 4 and starting QB. Starters are tops in league, depth is going to be their downfall. SD-Inconsistency is killing this team, should be 4-3 or better. Defense is an enigma. CHI-Who would have thought their defense would give up 41 points and they could still Win? BAL-Defense always gives them a chance. Offense is heavy run dependent and OL is inconsistent. The rest are just not fun to differentiate. Who would have dreamed that INDY and NE would not be here and SD and DAL would be outside looking in after 7 weeks?

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10-20-2008, 11:22 AM	#2
Rohirrim Partisan Human Cannonball Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Twixt Hell & Highwater Posts: 48,833	I think the Norv Turner effect is sinking in.

10-20-2008, 12:09 PM	#4
TheReverend www.PatrickTurley.org ^ buy this... twice Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 32,987 Adopt-a-Bronco: Mike Shanahan	TB and AZ don't belong in that second tier (though I appreciate the mention). Arizona is definitely not as good as Denver, but their defense does have more attitude.

10-20-2008, 12:36 PM	#6
bronco militia Ring of Famer THE GREATEST Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: colorado springs, co Posts: 22,584	solid thread... don't agree with Arizona or the Jets.

10-20-2008, 12:38 PM	#7
Garcia Bronco Hokie since 1993 Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 45,991 Adopt-a-Bronco: Tom Jackson	I think we are a 2nd tier team

10-20-2008, 12:51 PM	#8
Rock Chalk Cheeky Bastards Laus Deo Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: The Backside of the Internet Posts: 29,940 Adopt-a-Bronco: Chris Harris	There are three teams at the top in no particular order: NYG, Tenn, Pitt. There are a bunch of teams at the second level in no particular order: Buff, Denver, Arizona, Carolina, Washington, Tampa, Jacksonville, Chicago, Green Bay, Atlanta, Dallas. Anyone of these teams can beat any one of the others on any given day. Then there is everyone else.

10-20-2008, 12:54 PM	#9
Kaylore 6-37, Raider fans. Yummy birds and snow! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Ceti Alpha V Posts: 41,037 Adopt-a-Bronco: Wesley Duke	Unlike most people, I'm not sold on Pitt. They've barely beat some marginal opponents. Their offensive line sucks and they have struggled offensively.

10-20-2008, 01:09 PM	#12
Smiling Assassin27 STOP! KIPER TIME! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: In a van down by the river Posts: 10,970 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	I'd put us in Tier 2 alongside the Foreskins and Panthies.

10-20-2008, 01:58 PM	#14
ludo21 RIP Darrent Williams Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Glendale, AZ Posts: 17,903 Adopt-a-Bronco: Paul Ernster	I stil think the Chargers are in that 3rd tier as of now. I know they have sucked it up, but they cant drop this fast, can they? Also, I wouldnt count out the Rams from the NFC W. Dont laugh. I love my hometown AZ Cards, but they always fall apart, all the time. Rams are a different team with Haslett running things, and only 2 games down. I think this could happen.

10-21-2008, 07:15 AM	#15
summerdenver Ring of Famer Rebuilding both offense and defense Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Seattle Posts: 1,822 Adopt-a-Bronco: Peyton Hillis	Chi deserves to be better, they are the only team that had led in all games in the 4th quarter even the losses and ther record could have better. They are winning without their 3 starting cbs. Den should be lower, watching the game last night i thought it could not get worse but I realize it will because den will play without Champ in the coming weeks.

10-21-2008, 07:38 AM	#18
Rohirrim Partisan Human Cannonball Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Twixt Hell & Highwater Posts: 48,833	The Broncos have become a footnote.

10-21-2008, 07:52 AM	#23
Garcia Bronco Hokie since 1993 Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 45,991 Adopt-a-Bronco: Tom Jackson	I take back my comment about us being a second tier team

10-21-2008, 09:27 AM	#24
CBF1 Ring of Famer No avatar is the new avatar Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: SoCal Posts: 14,907 Adopt-a-Bronco: Jack Del rio	Funny reading this now... This place if full of blind ass homers that know zero about football. Denver should be higher.... great one Garcia.