McCain Foments Violence Against Obama

[Rohirrim]

This is the text of the message McCain is sending all over America:

'Hello. I'm calling for John McCain and the RNC because you need to know that Barack Obama has worked closely with domestic terrorist Bill Ayers, whose organization bombed the U.S. capitol, the Pentagon, a judge's home and killed Americans. And Democrats will enact an extreme leftist agenda if they take control of Washington. Barack Obama and his Democratic allies lack the judgment to lead our country.'

The call ends with the legally required disclosure, informing the listener that the call was paid for by McCain-Palin 2008 and the Republican National Committee."

Of course, to the uneducated individual what this message says is "A terrorist is about to take over the White House and must be stopped." This is a level of incendiary speech I have never heard from any campaign, ever. This goes beyond all bounds. In court, this could be called incitement. I guarantee you, the message of the McCain campaign will lead to violence.

[Paladin]

I read that elsewhere on these pages, but it is still a downer. I agree. I fear for this country. There are a few McVeighs and Nichols out there in gagaland.....

I wonder if the the Courts would stop this if a suit ere brought by Obama;s campagin......

[Play2win]

Originally Posted by Rohirrim

This is the text of the message McCain is sending all over America:

'Hello. I'm calling for John McCain and the RNC because you need to know that Barack Obama has worked closely with domestic terrorist Bill Ayers, whose organization bombed the U.S. capitol, the Pentagon, a judge's home and killed Americans. And Democrats will enact an extreme leftist agenda if they take control of Washington. Barack Obama and his Democratic allies lack the judgment to lead our country.'

The call ends with the legally required disclosure, informing the listener that the call was paid for by McCain-Palin 2008 and the Republican National Committee."

Of course, to the uneducated individual what this message says is "A terrorist is about to take over the White House and must be stopped." This is a level of incendiary speech I have never heard from any campaign, ever. This goes beyond all bounds. In court, this could be called incitement. I guarantee you, the message of the McCain campaign will lead to violence.

One would think, that, if what was described above is actually the case, it could definitely be prosecutable legally.

[TailgateNut]

Originally Posted by DS49

One would think, that, if what was described above is actually the case, it could definitely be prosecutable legally.

I heard the it (verbatim) on the radio this morning. One of the listeners had forwarded his VM recording to the studio.

McCain and Palin are white trash scum, IMO!

[Rohirrim]

I have never heard such a stink of hypocrisy. At the debates what did McCain hammer on? He repudiates every one of these despicable attacks. What does he do the next day? Sends out this phone message.

[Northman]

I dont buy that McCain is advocating violence be taken on Obama. Thats a far stretch here. But, considering that Obama may indeed become the first black president of the united states i wouldnt doubt that he may become a target for white supremist or anti-muslim extremist. But i dont see anywhere in that message advocating that someone kill Obama.

[Rohirrim]

Originally Posted by Anubis

I dont buy that McCain is advocating violence be taken on Obama. Thats a far stretch here. But, considering that Obama may indeed become the first black president of the united states i wouldnt doubt that he may become a target for white supremist or anti-muslim extremist. But i dont see anywhere in that message advocating that someone kill Obama.

I think that is highly naive of you. Islamic terrorists have been the number one enemy of the American people for years. What this call does is lump Obama in with those anti-American killers. What do think the reaction of many out on the fringe will be to this effort? I wouldn't be surprised at all if some nutjob shows up at an Obama rally within the next couple of weeks and opens fire. Don't forget, we had two different men in the last few months open fire on "liberals." Both were stoked up by this exact type of language.

[Spider]

Originally Posted by Anubis

I dont buy that McCain is advocating violence be taken on Obama. Thats a far stretch here. But, considering that Obama may indeed become the first black president of the united states i wouldnt doubt that he may become a target for white supremist or anti-muslim extremist. But i dont see anywhere in that message advocating that someone kill Obama.

sure he is , it isnt direct , but it is overt , subliminal, kind of way .....

[Northman]

Nah, doesnt sound like it too me. Sounds like he is just sounding the alarm for people to get out and vote and if you dont believe in Obama and what he stands for the time is now to make sure your vote counts. McCain is becoming more vocal now as it seems very likely that he will lose to Obama in this election. But if any attacks happen on Obama it wont be because of this phone call. Thats just silly. Obama has a target on his back because of his color more than anything else. If he wins History will be made and there are some out there who cant live with that thought.

[Spider]

Originally Posted by Anubis

Nah, doesnt sound like it too me. Sounds like he is just sounding the alarm for people to get out and vote and if you dont believe in Obama and what he stands for the time is now to make sure your vote counts. McCain is becoming more vocal now as it seems very likely that he will lose to Obama in this election. But if any attacks happen on Obama it wont be because of this phone call. Thats just silly. Obama has a target on his back because of his color more than anything else. If he wins History will be made and there are some out there who cant live with that thought.

to some , but some whacked out radical like the idiot a while back that went into a church and started shooting people cause it was a liberal church , or the other Idiot http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2008/ju...-suspects-car/

[Rohirrim]

Originally Posted by Anubis

Nah, doesnt sound like it too me. Sounds like he is just sounding the alarm for people to get out and vote and if you dont believe in Obama and what he stands for the time is now to make sure your vote counts. McCain is becoming more vocal now as it seems very likely that he will lose to Obama in this election. But if any attacks happen on Obama it wont be because of this phone call. Thats just silly. Obama has a target on his back because of his color more than anything else. If he wins History will be made and there are some out there who cant live with that thought.

Actually, these type of dirty tricks are designed to suppress the vote, as Obama's letter to Mukasey points out. http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=72902

[Paladin]

Anubis, you write BS there......

[Northman]

Originally Posted by Spider

to some , but some whacked out radical like the idiot a while back that went into a church and started shooting people cause it was a liberal church , or the other Idiot http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2008/ju...-suspects-car/

Whack jobs are always going to be there man. They dont need a phone message from McCain to get motivation.

[Northman]

Originally Posted by Paladin

Anubis, you write BS there......

Uh, ok. Thanks.

[Spider]

Originally Posted by Anubis

Whack jobs are always going to be there man. They dont need a phone message from McCain to get motivation.

no but the phone calls dont help ..... Like me tonight , it wouldnt take much to set me off , I am missing my family bad , I am stuck in Glade Springs VA until monday ,and some bastard in Canton Ohio is trying to **** me out of a 1,000 bucks ......

[Spider]

I go through hell out here , near misses , D.O.T. the highway patrol , everyone trying to get every cent out of me they can , Wanting to be with my family , and then some azzhole is trying to screw me out of a thousand bucks .... you damn right I am boarder line nuts

[Northman]

Originally Posted by Spider

no but the phone calls dont help ..... Like me tonight , it wouldnt take much to set me off , I am missing my family bad , I am stuck in Glade Springs VA until monday ,and some bastard in Canton Ohio is trying to **** me out of a 1,000 bucks ......

Yea, but your a angry guy anyway. You would probably beat that guy's ass over 10 bucks.

[Spider]

Originally Posted by Anubis

Yea, but your a angry guy anyway. You would probably beat that guy's ass over 10 bucks.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Originally Posted by Anubis

Whack jobs are always going to be there man. They dont need a phone message from McCain to get motivation.

You're saying messages like these don't spur the whack jobs on or get them worked up?

You're kidding, right?

That's like saying it's OK to dump gasoline on a fire because it was already burning.

[ZONA]

It's so simple and obvious what is going on here. I don't think McCain wants anything bad to happen to Obama but he will pull out every dirty trick in the bag in order to try and stop this landslide. I think he would even go as far to slap Obama's kids if it meant he could get in the White House. Sure, he would apologize later but the point is he is going ALL IN right now just to see if he can get back a few states.

The problem is, while there are plenty of stupid Americans left, many of us have grown wise to these BS tactics by the GOP and it's not going to work. The harder McCain tries, the larger the lead seems to be getting. That little snowball rolling down the hill has now become much larger and I'm afraid it's just too late to stop it now. Obama is gonna roll McCain. Now if only they Dems could get 60 seats in the Senate, things will turn around for the good.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Originally Posted by TailgateNut

McCain and Palin are white trash scum, IMO!

QFT.

These people are about as vile and filthy as it gets.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Even if McCain doesn't want anything bad to happen to Obama, surely he's smart enough to realize that this sort of talk can incite the McVeigh-type nutjobs to violence?

Witness the cries of "kill him" at White Trash Barbie's rallies.

[Northman]

Originally Posted by L.A. BRONCOS FAN

You're saying messages like these don't spur the whack jobs on or get them worked up?

You're kidding, right?

That's like saying it's OK to dump gasoline on a fire because it was already burning.

I never said that, but to try and throw out the assumption that McCain WANTS someone to kill Obama is ludicrous and reaching. Whackjobs are going to do what they plan to do with or without any comments from McCain. You guys act like there arent already people who hate or want to kill Obama just because of his color. Trust me, there will be an attack on Obama at some point if he is elected president. But it wont be over this phone message i can guarantee you that. Its not rocket science to understand that some small groups or individuals are not ready for a black president. And now you add that he has muslim ties to it? The motivation for those whackjobs is already there.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Originally Posted by Anubis

I never said that, but to try and throw out the assumption that McCain WANTS someone to kill Obama is ludicrous and reaching. Whackjobs are going to do what they plan to do with or without any comments from McCain. You guys act like there arent already people who hate or want to kill Obama just because of his color. Trust me, there will be an attack on Obama at some point if he is elected president. But it wont be over this phone message i can guarantee you that. Its not rocket science to understand that some small groups or individuals are not ready for a black president. And now you add that he has muslim ties to it? The motivation for those whackjobs is already there.

I didn't say McCain wanted anything bad to happen to Obama.

What I said was that McCain should have enough sense to understand that this kind of talk can incite the McVeigh-type nuts to violence.

And to simply argue that the "motivation is already there" does not justify fanning the flames as McCain and his pet rat are doing here.

[Northman]

Originally Posted by L.A. BRONCOS FAN

I didn't say McCain wanted anything bad to happen to Obama.

What I said was that McCain should have enough sense to understand that this kind of talk can incite the McVeigh-type nuts to violence.

And to simply argue that the "motivation is already there" does not justify fanning the flames as McCain and his pet rat are doing here.

Fair enough, i dont see it as anything like that but i understand your point.