OJ Guilty! - The Orange Mane

DomCasual · 10-03-2008, 11:04 PM

Guilty on all counts!

The bad news is that he won't be able to tirelessly search for the murderers of Nicole Brown Simpson and Ronald Goldman while he's in prison.

Florida_Bronco · 10-03-2008, 11:07 PM

Justice is finally served.

dbfan4life · 10-03-2008, 11:08 PM

He was guilty 13 years ago...to the day.

DomCasual · 10-03-2008, 11:14 PM

http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/10/04/...ict/index.html

LAS VEGAS, Nevada (CNN) -- Former gridiron great O.J. Simpson was found guilty of all 12 counts in the armed robbery of two sports memorabilia dealers at a Las Vegas, Nevada, casino hotel last year.

The jury reached the verdict 13 years to the day O.J. Simpson was acquitted of two murders.

Simpson, 61, and his co-defendant Clarence "C.J." Stewart, 54, were charged with a dozen offenses stemming from the alleged sports memorabilia heist.

Stewart was also found guilty of the same charges as Simpson. Both men will likely spend the rest of their lives in prison.

Simpson arrived at the Clark County Justice Center at around 10:50 p.m. (1:50 a.m. Saturday ET). He told CNN's Ted Rowlands on the phone before the verdict was read that he was "apprehensive."

The jury of nine men and three women, none of them African-American, began deliberations Friday after hearing from 22 witnesses over 12 days of testimony. Chief among the witnesses were seven of the nine people inside Room 1203 of the Palace Station Hotel and Casino for the September 13, 2007 confrontation.

The evidence included testimony from the two dealers, four co-defendants who cut plea deals and cooperated with prosecutors and hours of often-profane, crackling, secretly recorded audiotapes.

Prosecutors alleged that the men, led by Simpson, burst into the room, flashed a gun and threatened memorabilia dealers Bruce Fromong and Al Beardsley.

The men then filled two pillowcases with Simpson trinkets, signed Pete Rose baseballs and Joe Montana lithographs. Simpson's defense attorneys maintained their client was merely trying to retrieve personal photographs and other mementos that belonged to him.

Neither Simpson nor his co-defendant Clarence "C.J." Stewart testified during the trial. Instead, their attorneys savaged the motives of the other witnesses.

Simpson's lawyer, Yale Galanter, said Simpson was a target of investigators from the very beginning. The case "has taken on a life of its own because of Mr. Simpson's involvement," he added.

"Every cooperator, every person who had a gun, every person who had an ulterior motive, every person who signed a book deal, every person who got paid money, the police, the district attorney's office is only interested in one thing: Mr. Simpson," Galanter said.

Stewart was characterized by his lawyer, E. Brent Bryson, as the trial's forgotten player.

The most compelling evidence for all sides came from the audiotapes.

For the prosecution, conversations taped by collectibles middleman Thomas Riccio took jurors from the poolside planning to the profanity-laced hotel room confrontation.

Riccio, a chatty sports memorabilia dealer and convicted felon made the rounds on network news shows immediately after the hotel room fracas. He admitted on the stand that various media outlets paid him $210,000.

The crucial evidence for the defense came from two audiotapes, a voicemail from a key prosecution witness who seemed willing to tailor his testimony for a price and tapes of Las Vegas police officers laughing and joking about Simpson's Los Angeles acquittal following his arrest.

Galanter told jurors the surreptitious recording captured police investigators in the hotel room after the confrontation. "They're making jokes. They're saying things like, 'We're gonna get him,"' he said.

Police were called to the hotel around 8 p.m. on September 13, 2007. Shortly after midnight, detectives visited Simpson at his hotel. He told them he was just trying to recover property that had been stolen from him.

"Why are they not in trouble?" Simpson asked about memorabilia dealers Beardsley and Fromong, according to police reports filed in the case. Both men testified for the prosecution, although Beardsley said Simpson did nothing wrong and was "set up" by the "rat Riccio."

Riccio, who was not charged in the case, testified that he didn't think twice about recording Simpson when asked for help retrieving what Simpson claimed was his property.

All four of the former co-defendants testified for the prosecution. Two of them tied Simpson to guns and threats.

Michael McClinton testified that Simpson instructed him to bring a gun and "look menacing" before they entered the hotel room.

Simpson has told police he had no idea the people with him were armed.

The testimony was laced with innuendo about unsavory activities by several of the witnesses, many with criminal records. Riccio and Beardsley feuded openly, calling each other names and questioning each other's sanity.

Aware that loose cannons on the stand could blow the case into mistrial purgatory, Judge Jackie Glass refused to let David Cook testify. Cook, an attorney for the family of Ronald Goldman, searches for Simpson assets to satisfy the $33.5 million civil judgment against the former NFL star.

Simpson was acquitted of killing his ex-wife, Nicole Brown Simpson, and Goldman in a trial that ended 13 years to the day before the Las Vegas jury began its deliberations.

Regarding Glass' ruling, Cook told CNN: "If you read between the lines, I think she thought my appearance would bring up the Ghost of Christmas Past."

The case featured 19 male witnesses and just three cameo appearances from women. Swagger and testosterone ran rampant with hard stares from the witness stand.
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As testimony neared its end, Glass, a former television news reporter, vented her frustration with the quibbling lawyers.

"I'm trying to get this trial back on track," she snapped. "I am surprised you haven't seen my head spin and fire come out of my mouth at this point in this trial."

Bronco Bob · 10-03-2008, 11:26 PM

Think he'll do any meaningful time for it?

Dagmar · 10-03-2008, 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bronco Bob

Think he'll do any meaningful time for it?

Quote:

Both men will likely spend the rest of their lives in prison.

Do you read?

Bronco Bob · 10-03-2008, 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rusty Shackleford

Do you read?

Yeah, I read it. But do you think it will happen?

Dagmar · 10-04-2008, 12:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bronco Bob

Yeah, I read it. But do you think it will happen?

I honestly just realised when you asked that question I don't care.

OJ was a football great turned scumbag, whether he did it or not.

He was funny in Naked Gun 2 though...

cutthemdown · 10-04-2008, 12:28 AM

oh yeah he's going to get 10 yrs at least.

CBF1 · 10-04-2008, 12:38 AM

I demand more proof

Popps · 10-04-2008, 12:41 AM

Anyone seen the "OJ" documentary that claims he's innocent? (For real.)

I haven't seen it. Someone burned a DVD for me and I can't bring myself to waste an hour or so of my life on it.

But, several people... and fairly intelligent people tell me it's somewhat compelling and a strong case is made that it was his son, I believe.

Not saying I buy it, whatsoever. I don't. He's guilty as sin. Just wondering if anyone's actually watched it.

Taco John · 10-04-2008, 02:09 AM

Not sure if this is the documentary you were talking about, but I just found this on Google Video...

watermock · 10-04-2008, 03:16 AM

Don't get arrested in Vegas. They let alot slide, but just dont get arrested. They dont waste their time.

broncogary · 10-04-2008, 05:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DomCasual

Guilty on all counts!

The bad news is that he won't be able to tirelessly search for the murderers of Nicole Brown Simpson and Ronald Goldman while he's in prison.

It's only obvious that having exhausted his search in mainstream society (golf courses), he determined that it was likely that the killers were in prison for something else, and the only way for him to find them was to go undercover.

watermock · 10-04-2008, 05:48 AM

Another Simpson attorney, Gabriel Grasso of Las Vegas, said he knew from the start that a Nevada jury spelled trouble for Simpson. "The motto for juries out here is, 'when in doubt, convict.' That's just the way it is," Grasso said.

Vladimir · 10-04-2008, 06:21 AM

The Glove Does Not Fit!

Dr. Broncenstein · 10-04-2008, 06:37 AM

OJail

loborugger · 10-04-2008, 06:53 AM

Congrats, Orenthal.

First man to rush for 2000 yards in a season and the first HOFer to likely receive a life sentence.

Rock Chalk · 10-04-2008, 07:14 AM

Finally justice is served.

Meck77 · 10-04-2008, 07:14 AM

It thought the minimum time was 5 years max was 13 years?

Rock Chalk · 10-04-2008, 07:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Meck77

It thought the minimum time was 5 years max was 13 years?

Maybe for one of teh charges. But he was convicted of multiple felonies.

And at 61, even if he gets the minimum sentences it is unlikely he will ever get out of prison.

dsmoot · 10-04-2008, 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DomCasual

Guilty on all counts!

The bad news is that he won't be able to tirelessly search for the murderers of Nicole Brown Simpson and Ronald Goldman while he's in prison.

I think OJ will finally have the opportunity to see his wife's killer behind bars. His search will be over.

dsmoot · 10-04-2008, 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rusty Shackleford

I honestly just realised when you asked that question I don't care.

OJ was a football great turned scumbag, whether he did it or not.

He was funny in Naked Gun 2 though...

Turned scumbag

I might think the characteristics were there all the time.

Meck77 · 10-04-2008, 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rock Chalk

Maybe for one of teh charges. But he was convicted of multiple felonies.

And at 61, even if he gets the minimum sentences it is unlikely he will ever get out of prison.

Good point. May he rot in jail to his death then.

Northman · 10-04-2008, 08:17 AM

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The jury of nine men and three women, none of them African-American,

This ought to go over real well with Farrakan and company.

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10-03-2008, 11:07 PM	#2
Florida_Bronco Got trolls? Welcome to Mile High, Brady! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Tampa Bay Posts: 13,810 Adopt-a-Bronco: Brady Quinn	Justice is finally served.

10-03-2008, 11:08 PM	#3
dbfan4life Ring of Famer Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Las Cruces, NM Posts: 2,499	He was guilty 13 years ago...to the day.

10-03-2008, 11:14 PM	#4
DomCasual The Dude abides. Shameless Homer Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Cocytus Posts: 13,173 Adopt-a-Bronco: Gus Frerotte	http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/10/04/...ict/index.html LAS VEGAS, Nevada (CNN) -- Former gridiron great O.J. Simpson was found guilty of all 12 counts in the armed robbery of two sports memorabilia dealers at a Las Vegas, Nevada, casino hotel last year. The jury reached the verdict 13 years to the day O.J. Simpson was acquitted of two murders. Simpson, 61, and his co-defendant Clarence "C.J." Stewart, 54, were charged with a dozen offenses stemming from the alleged sports memorabilia heist. Stewart was also found guilty of the same charges as Simpson. Both men will likely spend the rest of their lives in prison. Simpson arrived at the Clark County Justice Center at around 10:50 p.m. (1:50 a.m. Saturday ET). He told CNN's Ted Rowlands on the phone before the verdict was read that he was "apprehensive." The jury of nine men and three women, none of them African-American, began deliberations Friday after hearing from 22 witnesses over 12 days of testimony. Chief among the witnesses were seven of the nine people inside Room 1203 of the Palace Station Hotel and Casino for the September 13, 2007 confrontation. The evidence included testimony from the two dealers, four co-defendants who cut plea deals and cooperated with prosecutors and hours of often-profane, crackling, secretly recorded audiotapes. Prosecutors alleged that the men, led by Simpson, burst into the room, flashed a gun and threatened memorabilia dealers Bruce Fromong and Al Beardsley. The men then filled two pillowcases with Simpson trinkets, signed Pete Rose baseballs and Joe Montana lithographs. Simpson's defense attorneys maintained their client was merely trying to retrieve personal photographs and other mementos that belonged to him. Neither Simpson nor his co-defendant Clarence "C.J." Stewart testified during the trial. Instead, their attorneys savaged the motives of the other witnesses. Simpson's lawyer, Yale Galanter, said Simpson was a target of investigators from the very beginning. The case "has taken on a life of its own because of Mr. Simpson's involvement," he added. "Every cooperator, every person who had a gun, every person who had an ulterior motive, every person who signed a book deal, every person who got paid money, the police, the district attorney's office is only interested in one thing: Mr. Simpson," Galanter said. Stewart was characterized by his lawyer, E. Brent Bryson, as the trial's forgotten player. The most compelling evidence for all sides came from the audiotapes. For the prosecution, conversations taped by collectibles middleman Thomas Riccio took jurors from the poolside planning to the profanity-laced hotel room confrontation. Riccio, a chatty sports memorabilia dealer and convicted felon made the rounds on network news shows immediately after the hotel room fracas. He admitted on the stand that various media outlets paid him $210,000. The crucial evidence for the defense came from two audiotapes, a voicemail from a key prosecution witness who seemed willing to tailor his testimony for a price and tapes of Las Vegas police officers laughing and joking about Simpson's Los Angeles acquittal following his arrest. Galanter told jurors the surreptitious recording captured police investigators in the hotel room after the confrontation. "They're making jokes. They're saying things like, 'We're gonna get him,"' he said. Police were called to the hotel around 8 p.m. on September 13, 2007. Shortly after midnight, detectives visited Simpson at his hotel. He told them he was just trying to recover property that had been stolen from him. "Why are they not in trouble?" Simpson asked about memorabilia dealers Beardsley and Fromong, according to police reports filed in the case. Both men testified for the prosecution, although Beardsley said Simpson did nothing wrong and was "set up" by the "rat Riccio." Riccio, who was not charged in the case, testified that he didn't think twice about recording Simpson when asked for help retrieving what Simpson claimed was his property. All four of the former co-defendants testified for the prosecution. Two of them tied Simpson to guns and threats. Michael McClinton testified that Simpson instructed him to bring a gun and "look menacing" before they entered the hotel room. Simpson has told police he had no idea the people with him were armed. The testimony was laced with innuendo about unsavory activities by several of the witnesses, many with criminal records. Riccio and Beardsley feuded openly, calling each other names and questioning each other's sanity. Aware that loose cannons on the stand could blow the case into mistrial purgatory, Judge Jackie Glass refused to let David Cook testify. Cook, an attorney for the family of Ronald Goldman, searches for Simpson assets to satisfy the $33.5 million civil judgment against the former NFL star. Simpson was acquitted of killing his ex-wife, Nicole Brown Simpson, and Goldman in a trial that ended 13 years to the day before the Las Vegas jury began its deliberations. Regarding Glass' ruling, Cook told CNN: "If you read between the lines, I think she thought my appearance would bring up the Ghost of Christmas Past." The case featured 19 male witnesses and just three cameo appearances from women. Swagger and testosterone ran rampant with hard stares from the witness stand. advertisement As testimony neared its end, Glass, a former television news reporter, vented her frustration with the quibbling lawyers. "I'm trying to get this trial back on track," she snapped. "I am surprised you haven't seen my head spin and fire come out of my mouth at this point in this trial."

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Bronco Bob Tastee Freeze Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 9,464 Adopt-a-Bronco: Champ Bailey	Think he'll do any meaningful time for it?

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cutthemdown A verbis ad verbera Zimm to HOF Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Long Beach Posts: 32,491	oh yeah he's going to get 10 yrs at least.

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CBF1 Ring of Famer No avatar is the new avatar Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: SoCal Posts: 14,907 Adopt-a-Bronco: Jack Del rio	I demand more proof

10-04-2008, 12:41 AM	#11
Popps TEAM FIRST. Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 29,785	Anyone seen the "OJ" documentary that claims he's innocent? (For real.) I haven't seen it. Someone burned a DVD for me and I can't bring myself to waste an hour or so of my life on it. But, several people... and fairly intelligent people tell me it's somewhat compelling and a strong case is made that it was his son, I believe. Not saying I buy it, whatsoever. I don't. He's guilty as sin. Just wondering if anyone's actually watched it.

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Taco John 24/7 Broncos In Elway I Trust Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 49,706 Adopt-a-Bronco: Peyton Manning	Not sure if this is the documentary you were talking about, but I just found this on Google Video...

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watermock "Hoodie Jr" "Hug me!" Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Hot Springs, Ouachitah Posts: 77,090	Don't get arrested in Vegas. They let alot slide, but just dont get arrested. They dont waste their time.

10-04-2008, 05:48 AM	#15
watermock "Hoodie Jr" "Hug me!" Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Hot Springs, Ouachitah Posts: 77,090	Another Simpson attorney, Gabriel Grasso of Las Vegas, said he knew from the start that a Nevada jury spelled trouble for Simpson. "The motto for juries out here is, 'when in doubt, convict.' That's just the way it is," Grasso said.

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Meck77 Ring of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 16,312	It thought the minimum time was 5 years max was 13 years?