More Pittman!! - The Orange Mane

Marshall Dumervil · 10-01-2008, 07:43 AM

4 carries for 36 yards.

Pittman vs. KC

Watching the game Sunday, I don't understand why Shanny didn't just give him the ball more. This 5 plays for Young then 5 for Hall crap needs to stop. After the 1st half it was obvious the gameplan the Broncos had wasn't working(turnovers didn't help either). Why not have just hammered that KC D over and over with Pittman? It would have helped Cutler immensely and I think we could have taken over the game with Pittman dominating the ground game. What do you think?

dbfan4life · 10-01-2008, 07:53 AM

As a team, we're averaging almost 5 YPC. I don't care who gets the ball more, there has to be better balance. We can score in a hurry but it doesn't keep the defense off the field.

bronco militia · 10-01-2008, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by dbfan4life

As a team, we're averaging almost 5 YPC. I don't care who gets the ball more, there has to be better balance. We can score in a hurry but it doesn't keep the defense off the field.

no doubt....the broncos haven't really tried to run the ball at all this year.

Schism · 10-01-2008, 07:59 AM

The problem with all of our backs is they're quite one dimensional.

Young is too indecisive, doesn't have the power to get the tough yards and as a result ends up dancing around too much. This means he'll never be the type who can move the chains constantly. He's a prototypical change of pace/3rd and long sort of back, and quite frankly he's nothing to get excited about in that role either as he doesn't have the speed in the open field to take one the distance.

Hall isn't elusive enough to be a speed back, nor is he big enough to be a power runner. Has back-up written all over him as far as I can see. Good at some things, but not particularly great at anything.

Pittman is fine in the role he's in, I just wish we'd use him on 3rd and short more often than we do as he's very good at running up the middle in that scenario. I doubt he's physically up to carrying it 20-25 times at his gae, so you can see why they have to use him sparingly.

I can only hope Torrain is the answer and becomes our #1 back, because frankly none of the current committee are good enough to be our feature guy.

broncofan7 · 10-01-2008, 08:01 AM

While I agree with you that I would like to see more balance from the offense, in the instances where we have tried that, 3rd qtr against SD, 2nd qtr against NO, we could not sustain drives and our defense yielded TD drives that allowed our opponents right back into the game. I think that our goal needs to be to score on every single drive and we have proven that we can score by slinging the ball 50+ times /game and we have NOT proven that we can score at the same rate with balance in our offense. We are what we are--quit trying to be the 2005 broncos and realize we are the 2000 Rams....

Marshall Dumervil · 10-01-2008, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Schism

The problem with all of our backs is they're quite one dimensional.

Young is too indecisive, doesn't have the power to get the tough yards and as a result ends up dancing around too much. This means he'll never be the type who can move the chains constantly. He's a prototypical change of pace/3rd and long sort of back, and quite frankly he's nothing to get excited about in that role either as he doesn't have the speed in the open field to take one the distance.

Hall isn't elusive enough to be a speed back, nor is he big enough to be a power runner. Has back-up written all over him as far as I can see. Good at some things, but not particularly great at anything.

Pittman is fine in the role he's in, I just wish we'd use him on 3rd and short more often than we do as he's very good at running up the middle in that scenario. I doubt he's physically up to carrying it 20-25 times at his gae, so you can see why they have to use him sparingly.

I can only hope Torrain is the answer and becomes our #1 back, because frankly none of the current committee are good enough to be our feature guy.

Pittman has said more than once this season that he will do whatever is asked of him. I really like his attitude, he just wants to kick ass. I think he can contribute more than being a goaline/short yardage guy. He doesn't have the speed of Young/Hall, but the guy is a bull.

I don't think he would have any problem with 20-25 carries

Peoples Champ · 10-01-2008, 08:22 AM

I am all about it. Use him more. Maybe even on first down, 2 and 7 is fine with me.

Same reason Wade Phillips said the Cowboys lost. They didnt use their power runner Marion Barber enough.

BroncoBen · 10-01-2008, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Marshall Dumervil

4 carries for 36 yards.

Pittman vs. KC

Watching the game Sunday, I don't understand why Shanny didn't just give him the ball more. This 5 plays for Young then 5 for Hall crap needs to stop. After the 1st half it was obvious the gameplan the Broncos had wasn't working(turnovers didn't help either). Why not have just hammered that KC D over and over with Pittman? It would have helped Cutler immensely and I think we could have taken over the game with Pittman dominating the ground game. What do you think?

Pittman did have a few powerful runs, and he does have decent hands when catching the ball. But I am not so sure Pittman gives the Broncos a 'dominating' ground game. Right now the Broncos run game benifits from the passing game.

broncofan2438 · 10-01-2008, 08:54 AM

I to think that Pittman should get the ball more, but I think Shanny uses him for third downs and for short powerful gains. Im just thinking when Torain gets back we will see a different run game

BroncoMan4ever · 10-01-2008, 10:20 AM

i understand the wanting to use each of Hall, Young and Pittman's attributes in a game, but, the equal carries crap is really stupid. In the 1st quarter they should see who is running the best and get him the ball that week. any of our RB's could carry the ball 20-25 times a game because more than likely the following week someone else would be running better and would be getting the bulk of the carries.

PRBronco · 10-01-2008, 10:36 AM

Any Dexter fans here? Every time I see Pittman out there he reminds me so much of Doakes. I figure after his TDs he's muttering "mutha****in weirdos".

broncosteven · 10-01-2008, 10:41 AM

The fact that Pittman did so well was actually a sign that Young and Hall suck worse than I thought.

When Lightning Strikes · 10-01-2008, 02:39 PM

I agree, I like pittman a lot...i just picked him up on my fantasy roster thinking that Shanny will get smart and start using him...

Hes good...and for a big guy, he can catch too...

watermock · 10-01-2008, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by broncofan7

While I agree with you that I would like to see more balance from the offense, in the instances where we have tried that, 3rd qtr against SD, 2nd qtr against NO, we could not sustain drives and our defense yielded TD drives that allowed our opponents right back into the game. I think that our goal needs to be to score on every single drive and we have proven that we can score by slinging the ball 50+ times /game and we have NOT proven that we can score at the same rate with balance in our offense. We are what we are--quit trying to be the 2005 broncos and realize we are the 2000 Rams....

We dont have a 2000 Marshall Faulk.

broncofan2438 · 10-01-2008, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by When Lightning Strikes

I agree, I like pittman a lot...i just picked him up on my fantasy roster thinking that Shanny will get smart and start using him...

Hes good...and for a big guy, he can catch too...

I was going to do the same thing, but knowing my luck, Young will get most of the carries and I get screwed

kappys · 10-01-2008, 04:32 PM

I'd like to see what Hillis can do in short yardage situations with Graham as a lead blocker - sort of an H back. I wonder if that was ever tried in practice.

NYBronco · 10-01-2008, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by PRBronco

Any Dexter fans here? Every time I see Pittman out there he reminds me so much of Doakes. I figure after his TDs he's muttering "mutha****in weirdos".

Big time Dexter fan here!

HEAV · 10-01-2008, 06:13 PM

He's 33, lets not use him up this early. I want to see Selvin get more carries first.

Bob's your Information Minister · 10-01-2008, 06:24 PM

You do realize 20 of those yards came in the final minute on one carry?

broncosteven · 10-01-2008, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob's your Information Minister

You do realize 20 of those yards came in the final minute on one carry?

So 65 of LJ's 1,000,000 yards last week came on his 2nd carry.

You can bend stats anyway you want.

azbroncfan · 10-01-2008, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob's your Information Minister

You do realize 20 of those yards came in the final minute on one carry?

So now you are using the garbage time stats as ammo instead of ignoring them when Diaper Boy racked up yards against Atlanta in a meaningless game that was already over. Typical Bobo and can only use stats for arguments.

Bob's your Information Minister · 10-01-2008, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by broncosteven

So 65 of LJ's 1,000,000 yards last week came on his 2nd carry.

What? How does that even make sense? The game was most certainly undecided on the second play of the game.

That was my entire point. You're here blowing Pittman, but half his yards came on the last play of the game when we were defending the pass. Completely irrelevant.

azbroncfan · 10-01-2008, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob's your Information Minister

You're here blowing Pittman, but half his yards came on the last play of the game when we were defending the pass. Completely irrelevant.

Just like all of Diaper Boy's yards against Atlanta except you were pimping him saying how awesome he was in a pointless game. Last weeks game doesn't do crap for him since he is playing against the worst defense in the NFL over the past 10 years.

FireFly · 10-01-2008, 11:55 PM

Honest question: Is our lack of a consistent run game more a function of a lack of talent in the RB stable or poor run blocking?

I believe that the best way to take some pressure off of our D would be to keep them off the field! A running game can help do that. We need to do that.

Bob's your Information Minister · 10-02-2008, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by azbroncfan

Just like all of Diaper Boy's yards against Atlanta except you were pimping him saying how awesome he was in a pointless game. Last weeks game doesn't do crap for him since he is playing against the worst defense in the NFL over the past 10 years.

This thread is about Michael Pittman, not Larry Johnson. Please stay on topic. Thank you.

10-01-2008, 10:36 AM	#11
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10-01-2008, 07:43 AM	#1
Marshall Dumervil Seasoned Veteran Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 322 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	More Pittman!! 4 carries for 36 yards. Pittman vs. KC Watching the game Sunday, I don't understand why Shanny didn't just give him the ball more. This 5 plays for Young then 5 for Hall crap needs to stop. After the 1st half it was obvious the gameplan the Broncos had wasn't working(turnovers didn't help either). Why not have just hammered that KC D over and over with Pittman? It would have helped Cutler immensely and I think we could have taken over the game with Pittman dominating the ground game. What do you think?

10-01-2008, 07:53 AM	#2
dbfan4life Ring of Famer Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Las Cruces, NM Posts: 2,499	As a team, we're averaging almost 5 YPC. I don't care who gets the ball more, there has to be better balance. We can score in a hurry but it doesn't keep the defense off the field.

10-01-2008, 07:59 AM	#4
Schism Ring of Famer New to the Forum Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 2,920 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	The problem with all of our backs is they're quite one dimensional. Young is too indecisive, doesn't have the power to get the tough yards and as a result ends up dancing around too much. This means he'll never be the type who can move the chains constantly. He's a prototypical change of pace/3rd and long sort of back, and quite frankly he's nothing to get excited about in that role either as he doesn't have the speed in the open field to take one the distance. Hall isn't elusive enough to be a speed back, nor is he big enough to be a power runner. Has back-up written all over him as far as I can see. Good at some things, but not particularly great at anything. Pittman is fine in the role he's in, I just wish we'd use him on 3rd and short more often than we do as he's very good at running up the middle in that scenario. I doubt he's physically up to carrying it 20-25 times at his gae, so you can see why they have to use him sparingly. I can only hope Torrain is the answer and becomes our #1 back, because frankly none of the current committee are good enough to be our feature guy.

10-01-2008, 08:01 AM	#5
broncofan7 AKA "THE STANDARD" BQ looks ALMOST as good as I do Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: BIG D Posts: 6,022	While I agree with you that I would like to see more balance from the offense, in the instances where we have tried that, 3rd qtr against SD, 2nd qtr against NO, we could not sustain drives and our defense yielded TD drives that allowed our opponents right back into the game. I think that our goal needs to be to score on every single drive and we have proven that we can score by slinging the ball 50+ times /game and we have NOT proven that we can score at the same rate with balance in our offense. We are what we are--quit trying to be the 2005 broncos and realize we are the 2000 Rams....

10-01-2008, 08:22 AM	#7
Peoples Champ Ring of Famer New to the Forum Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Orange County Posts: 3,100 Adopt-a-Bronco: Champ Bailey	I am all about it. Use him more. Maybe even on first down, 2 and 7 is fine with me. Same reason Wade Phillips said the Cowboys lost. They didnt use their power runner Marion Barber enough.

10-01-2008, 08:54 AM	#9
broncofan2438 Faneco this... LETS TAKE BACK THE AFC WEST Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: California Posts: 6,302 Adopt-a-Bronco: ERIC DECKER	I to think that Pittman should get the ball more, but I think Shanny uses him for third downs and for short powerful gains. Im just thinking when Torain gets back we will see a different run game

10-01-2008, 10:20 AM	#10
BroncoMan4ever Ring of Famer Here to chew bubblegum and kick ass Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Denver Posts: 11,567 Adopt-a-Bronco: VIRGIL GREEN!!!	i understand the wanting to use each of Hall, Young and Pittman's attributes in a game, but, the equal carries crap is really stupid. In the 1st quarter they should see who is running the best and get him the ball that week. any of our RB's could carry the ball 20-25 times a game because more than likely the following week someone else would be running better and would be getting the bulk of the carries.

10-01-2008, 10:41 AM	#12
broncosteven The Kranz Dictum MWA: Flight Director Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Tranquility Base Posts: 29,028 Adopt-a-Bronco: MONEYBALL #38	The fact that Pittman did so well was actually a sign that Young and Hall suck worse than I thought.

10-01-2008, 02:39 PM	#13
When Lightning Strikes Power House AFC West '09 Bolts all the WayFC champs Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: San Diego Posts: 120 Adopt-a-Bronco: #27 RIP	I agree, I like pittman a lot...i just picked him up on my fantasy roster thinking that Shanny will get smart and start using him... Hes good...and for a big guy, he can catch too...

10-01-2008, 04:32 PM	#16
kappys Ring of Famer “It will be of little avail to the Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 3,900	I'd like to see what Hillis can do in short yardage situations with Graham as a lead blocker - sort of an H back. I wonder if that was ever tried in practice.

10-01-2008, 06:13 PM	#18
HEAV Ring of Famer It's about the Team Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Ville Posts: 12,077 Adopt-a-Bronco: Brian Dawkins	He's 33, lets not use him up this early. I want to see Selvin get more carries first.

10-01-2008, 06:24 PM	#19
Bob's your Information Minister Chiefs > Broncos Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 25,920 Adopt-a-Bronco: CHRIS KUPER!!!	You do realize 20 of those yards came in the final minute on one carry?

10-01-2008, 11:55 PM	#24
FireFly Ring of Famer The window is open! Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,683	Honest question: Is our lack of a consistent run game more a function of a lack of talent in the RB stable or poor run blocking? I believe that the best way to take some pressure off of our D would be to keep them off the field! A running game can help do that. We need to do that.