Nothing has changed - The Orange Mane

JCMElway · 09-30-2008, 12:45 AM

It is amazing how just getting by some weeks will soothe so much for a football fan. And then when a team's weaknesses get exposed, it's like an entire house of cards comes down.

I waited for a bit to chime in because I knew things would be a mess in here. By Foneco, I was right. I've seen a couple of posts to this effect, but let's all relax, take a few more deep breaths, and talk about what was true before the KC game, and what remains true.

--We have one of the best QB/WR tandems in the league.

--Hell, we have one of the best QBs in the league, even withour Brandon!

--We also have a talented QB in his third season. Mistakes will be made, along with brilliant, breathtaking plays. Enjoy the Cutler roller coaster folks. He still will make 2-3 bad decisions a game, throw into coverage, and lock on to his primary target without looking off. He is not an all-pro yet, but it's coming. Soon.

--We have a very good O-line, with a running game that has not hit it's stride. I fully expect Torrain to get a good hard look when he returns.

--You cannot win a football game on the road in the NFL when you turn the ball over 4 times. Period. Jay made bad decisions and our WRs had the droppsies. Clean up the fumbles and picks and the outcome of the game may very well have been different. Watch for better ball security vs. Tampa.

--It's hard to play solid defense when the field is short. And the Chiefs had short fields all the time. The defense played better than it had been playing. Hopefully they can take another step against TB.

--We still have no pass rush. **sigh**

--We have a MLB who misses assignments. He's fast and physical, but has a .02 cent head. That is rarely protected by a helmet.

--We have no safety talent on this roster. it may be developing in Barrett, but it's not there yet. We need to address DE, LB, Safety, and probably corner again in the draft. We will be playing uphill on defense all year because of our lack of talent.

So, the sky is not falling. We have a damn good offense that can hang 30 on the board on any given Sunday. We have a young defense that is not getting it done right now. We will win some games, and lose some games. With our schedule there is a good chance we win more than we lose.

Is this team ready to make a Super Bowl run? No, I don't think so. But, at the start of the season, I think we all knew that. Do we have a shot at the playoffs? Absolutley. And, as we have seen before, anything can happen once you're in the post season.

The thing I take away from our season so far is we were not as good as our 3-0 record indicated, but we certainly are not as bad as the Chiefs game would indicate. I still think we go 10-6, or 11-5 and make the playoffs. And I also think we are 1 or 2 impact players away on defense from being real contenders. So, for the time being, let's just sit back and talk about beating the **** out of the Bucs!

CBF1 · 09-30-2008, 01:03 AM

Stop being logical

Flex Gunmetal · 09-30-2008, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by CBF1

Stop being logical

+1, it's the mane after a loss @ kfc. These hysterics will last at least till saturday.

Los Broncos · 09-30-2008, 08:10 AM

...but the date

Kaylore · 09-30-2008, 08:11 AM

I think people are upset because the Chiefs suck so horribly. Having said that, the good news is the red zone defense got better and in spite of playing our worst game of the year we still only trailed by three in the fourth and even tied the game up.

ludo21 · 09-30-2008, 08:14 AM

I wonder if Niko will ever get a shot at playing MLB?

BroncoBen · 09-30-2008, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by ludo21

I wonder if Niko will ever get a shot at playing MLB?

Ah... no.

Niko would be starting if he was any good... he is barley making his mark on special teams and he was the special teams captain / ace with the Seahawks.

JCMElway · 09-30-2008, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaylore

I think people are upset because the Chiefs suck so horribly. Having said that, the good news is the red zone defense got better and in spite of playing our worst game of the year we still only trailed by three in the fourth and even tied the game up.

...is what I'm saying. Nice work keeping level headed Kahn.

telluride · 09-30-2008, 09:14 AM

Here's the reality: our defense will not get any better. Slowik will stay. The game plans will suck. The young players will stay in developmental hell. And we will have squander a pretty great offense as a result. I just don't see Shanny making the changes he needs to make, which is to fire Slowik and Burney and pretty much everyone on the defensive coaching staff. So just enjoy the offense for what it is, and close your eyes when the defense is on the field.

Old Dude · 09-30-2008, 10:21 AM

Shanny was kind of defensive about the defense yesterday, and he did have a point. The D managed to keep the Broncos in the game for quite awhile, even after 4 turnovers.

But the fact is that this was the Chiefs.

Good teams take care of business like that and this squad did not.

My expectations are now back down to earth. Maybe 9-7, but I don't see us going anywhere beyond that without some major improvement on defense and special teams.

Hopefully, they'll surprise me in a good way.

09-30-2008, 12:45 AM	#1
JCMElway Moderate-erator Dominate! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 6,867 Adopt-a-Bronco: Oleg	Nothing has changed It is amazing how just getting by some weeks will soothe so much for a football fan. And then when a team's weaknesses get exposed, it's like an entire house of cards comes down. I waited for a bit to chime in because I knew things would be a mess in here. By Foneco, I was right. I've seen a couple of posts to this effect, but let's all relax, take a few more deep breaths, and talk about what was true before the KC game, and what remains true. --We have one of the best QB/WR tandems in the league. --Hell, we have one of the best QBs in the league, even withour Brandon! --We also have a talented QB in his third season. Mistakes will be made, along with brilliant, breathtaking plays. Enjoy the Cutler roller coaster folks. He still will make 2-3 bad decisions a game, throw into coverage, and lock on to his primary target without looking off. He is not an all-pro yet, but it's coming. Soon. --We have a very good O-line, with a running game that has not hit it's stride. I fully expect Torrain to get a good hard look when he returns. --You cannot win a football game on the road in the NFL when you turn the ball over 4 times. Period. Jay made bad decisions and our WRs had the droppsies. Clean up the fumbles and picks and the outcome of the game may very well have been different. Watch for better ball security vs. Tampa. --It's hard to play solid defense when the field is short. And the Chiefs had short fields all the time. The defense played better than it had been playing. Hopefully they can take another step against TB. --We still have no pass rush. sigh --We have a MLB who misses assignments. He's fast and physical, but has a .02 cent head. That is rarely protected by a helmet. --We have no safety talent on this roster. it may be developing in Barrett, but it's not there yet. We need to address DE, LB, Safety, and probably corner again in the draft. We will be playing uphill on defense all year because of our lack of talent. So, the sky is not falling. We have a damn good offense that can hang 30 on the board on any given Sunday. We have a young defense that is not getting it done right now. We will win some games, and lose some games. With our schedule there is a good chance we win more than we lose. Is this team ready to make a Super Bowl run? No, I don't think so. But, at the start of the season, I think we all knew that. Do we have a shot at the playoffs? Absolutley. And, as we have seen before, anything can happen once you're in the post season. The thing I take away from our season so far is we were not as good as our 3-0 record indicated, but we certainly are not as bad as the Chiefs game would indicate. I still think we go 10-6, or 11-5 and make the playoffs. And I also think we are 1 or 2 impact players away on defense from being real contenders. So, for the time being, let's just sit back and talk about beating the **** out of the Bucs! Last edited by JCMElway; 09-30-2008 at 01:18 AM..

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09-30-2008, 01:03 AM	#2
CBF1 Ring of Famer No avatar is the new avatar Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: SoCal Posts: 14,907 Adopt-a-Bronco: Jack Del rio	Stop being logical

09-30-2008, 08:10 AM	#4
Los Broncos Ring of farmers Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Anaheim Hills, Santa Ana Mountains CA Posts: 18,766 Adopt-a-Bronco: Ryan Clady	...but the date

09-30-2008, 08:11 AM	#5
Kaylore 6-37, Raider fans. Yummy birds and snow! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Ceti Alpha V Posts: 41,061 Adopt-a-Bronco: Wesley Duke	I think people are upset because the Chiefs suck so horribly. Having said that, the good news is the red zone defense got better and in spite of playing our worst game of the year we still only trailed by three in the fourth and even tied the game up.

09-30-2008, 08:14 AM	#6
ludo21 RIP Darrent Williams Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Glendale, AZ Posts: 17,911 Adopt-a-Bronco: Paul Ernster	I wonder if Niko will ever get a shot at playing MLB?

09-30-2008, 09:14 AM	#9
telluride Ring of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 2,557 Adopt-a-Bronco: --Rulon!--	Here's the reality: our defense will not get any better. Slowik will stay. The game plans will suck. The young players will stay in developmental hell. And we will have squander a pretty great offense as a result. I just don't see Shanny making the changes he needs to make, which is to fire Slowik and Burney and pretty much everyone on the defensive coaching staff. So just enjoy the offense for what it is, and close your eyes when the defense is on the field.

09-30-2008, 10:21 AM	#10
Old Dude Host Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: As if I'd tell you crazies! Posts: 14,155	Shanny was kind of defensive about the defense yesterday, and he did have a point. The D managed to keep the Broncos in the game for quite awhile, even after 4 turnovers. But the fact is that this was the Chiefs. Good teams take care of business like that and this squad did not. My expectations are now back down to earth. Maybe 9-7, but I don't see us going anywhere beyond that without some major improvement on defense and special teams. Hopefully, they'll surprise me in a good way.