Is our Defense worse than last year's? - The Orange Mane

Br0nc0Buster · 09-28-2008, 04:45 PM

There is no question we have the worst defense in the league. The Chiefs scored 32 points in 3 games leading up to this one. They scored 33 in this one alone.

It seems we have actually digressed each game and are worse than we were last year. What say you?

~Crash~ · 09-28-2008, 04:51 PM

is that far you know they were facing a QB that can win the close gamesthe D did way better this week the lose is not on them . KC was hugry and we were not . they were trying to strip the ball on every play and it worked they also was setting on the deep ball with there FS all day .

broncofan2438 · 09-28-2008, 04:52 PM

Yea, but who gives a crap, were 3-1 right? so there is no need ro worry(this is major sarcasm)

Popps · 09-28-2008, 04:54 PM

It's too soon to know. I think it'll be tough to top what our defense "did" last year, but there's always a chance.

I think ultimately our offense will help them out just enough to avoid a repeat performance, but I'd imagine we're near the bottom of the league in any measurable statistic.

Our LBs seem more effective. The run D seems better.... at times. Not so much at other times.

It's just a ****ing mess and I ****ing knew it was a mess from the first snap of the preseason.

~Crash~ · 09-28-2008, 04:56 PM

we have no FS on the team !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Beantown Bronco · 09-28-2008, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Br0nc0Buster

There is no question we have the worst defense in the league.

Not familiar with Arizona?

SonOfLe-loLang · 09-28-2008, 05:02 PM

Saying our defense gave up 33 in this game is really misleading, considering one drive in particular started on our own one. They were constantly starting drives in our territory. LJ ran well, but it wasnt like they completely dismantled the d.

That said, its still pretty bad

HEAV · 09-28-2008, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Beantown Bronco

Not familiar with Arizona?

Don't forget... we play the Jest this year also...oh my.

footstepsfrom#27 · 09-28-2008, 05:07 PM

Last year we had to fire the DC halfway through the season and abandon the whole idea we started with. So how can you get worse than that? Unfortunately we found a way.

NYBronco · 09-28-2008, 05:10 PM

It's just a communication issue.

HEAV · 09-28-2008, 05:22 PM

Hell the defensive game plan is more like sybil! Meaning 4-3, then 3-4... it's a mess. Even when they go 3-4 they use it incorrectly! Rush the outside backers not the insiders!

Bob's your Information Minister · 09-28-2008, 05:25 PM

No John Lynch = less run support.

oubronco · 09-28-2008, 05:28 PM

DAMN i just don't know what to say DAMN

footstepsfrom#27 · 09-28-2008, 05:29 PM

Today's result notwithstanding, the Chiefs are still the worst team in the NFL. Losing to this bunch is without excuse. I just consider it Karma for the two gift wins we got earlier.

HEAV · 09-28-2008, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by footstepsfrom#27

Today's result notwithstanding, the Chiefs are still the worst team in the NFL. Losing to this bunch is without excuse. I just consider it Karma for the two gift wins we got earlier.

I would trade the Saint's win for this loss. 3-0 in the AFC West better than 2-1...

Bob's your Information Minister · 09-28-2008, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by footstepsfrom#27

Today's result notwithstanding, the Chiefs are still the worst team in the NFL.

I don't really think we are. Tyler Thigpen made everyone think we were, though.

The MVPlaya · 09-28-2008, 05:45 PM

Too many people on this forums are negative...idiots.

nickademus · 09-28-2008, 05:48 PM

IMHO we are about the same if we contain the run our passing D gets burned. fun stuff

Hercules Rockefeller · 09-28-2008, 05:52 PM

Yep. Today proved that they didn't look terrible earlier because it was the Bolts or the Saints, they proved today that they can't stop anyone. They had a chance to man up in the 4th when they knew that the Chiefs weren't going to do anything but run it unless they forced to pass, and they couldn't stop ****.

telluride · 09-28-2008, 06:15 PM

We really need to lock Slowik in a closet and find someone else to game plan.

SoCalBronco · 09-28-2008, 06:43 PM

Someone in the chatroom today said that the only time we get pressure is on a screen.

It's funny because its true.

summerdenver · 09-28-2008, 07:30 PM

KC was playing with Herb Taylor and Damien Mcintosh at tackles and everyone knew they were going to run LJ. I mean they did not try to trick with formations or anything just lined up ran the ball for 200 yards. Their only legit receiving threats are Bowe and Tony G and if you can't stop them who are you going to stop? KC oline is really bad and if you can't get pressure on Huard who are going to get pressure on?

No disrespect to KC but I honestly cannot image this KC team scoring > 10 points against strong run defenses like Pit or Bal. If the current Den defense is not the worst and I don't know what could be worse than this. BTW, I saw STL play Sea, Buf and Cin play NYG and they are definitely better than Den.

Bob's your Information Minister · 09-28-2008, 07:43 PM

We ran for 184 on Atlanta last week. Give us a little credit. You guys looked better on run defense in other games.

BroncoBen · 09-28-2008, 07:50 PM

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No disrespect to KC but I honestly cannot image this KC team scoring > 10 points against strong run defenses like Pit or Bal. If the current Den defense is not the worst and I don't know what could be worse than this. BTW, I saw STL play Sea, Buf and Cin play NYG and they are definitely better than Den.

Yep... I think Denver's Defense is on track to be the worst in the NFL this year.

hades · 09-28-2008, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by BroncoBen

Yep... I think Denver's Defense is on track to be the worst in the NFL this year.

yeah, I'm afraid we'll help other teams set new records, again.

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09-28-2008, 04:45 PM	#1
Br0nc0Buster 2012 AFC West Champs stiff arming through the playoffs Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Kansas Posts: 4,432	Is our Defense worse than last year's? There is no question we have the worst defense in the league. The Chiefs scored 32 points in 3 games leading up to this one. They scored 33 in this one alone. It seems we have actually digressed each game and are worse than we were last year. What say you?

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09-28-2008, 04:51 PM	#2
~Crash~ My new dog Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,600 Adopt-a-Bronco: Kuper	is that far you know they were facing a QB that can win the close gamesthe D did way better this week the lose is not on them . KC was hugry and we were not . they were trying to strip the ball on every play and it worked they also was setting on the deep ball with there FS all day .

09-28-2008, 04:52 PM	#3
broncofan2438 Faneco this... LETS TAKE BACK THE AFC WEST Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: California Posts: 6,302 Adopt-a-Bronco: ERIC DECKER	Yea, but who gives a crap, were 3-1 right? so there is no need ro worry(this is major sarcasm)

09-28-2008, 04:54 PM	#4
Popps TEAM FIRST. Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 29,785	It's too soon to know. I think it'll be tough to top what our defense "did" last year, but there's always a chance. I think ultimately our offense will help them out just enough to avoid a repeat performance, but I'd imagine we're near the bottom of the league in any measurable statistic. Our LBs seem more effective. The run D seems better.... at times. Not so much at other times. It's just a **ing mess and I **ing knew it was a mess from the first snap of the preseason.

09-28-2008, 04:56 PM	#5
~Crash~ My new dog Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,600 Adopt-a-Bronco: Kuper	we have no FS on the team !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

09-28-2008, 05:02 PM	#7
SonOfLe-loLang Young Buck Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 13,217 Adopt-a-Bronco: Thunder (RIP)	Saying our defense gave up 33 in this game is really misleading, considering one drive in particular started on our own one. They were constantly starting drives in our territory. LJ ran well, but it wasnt like they completely dismantled the d. That said, its still pretty bad

09-28-2008, 05:07 PM	#9
footstepsfrom#27 helmet to helmet hitter Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Arlington, TX Posts: 16,117 Adopt-a-Bronco: Joe Mays	Last year we had to fire the DC halfway through the season and abandon the whole idea we started with. So how can you get worse than that? Unfortunately we found a way.

09-28-2008, 05:10 PM	#10
NYBronco Ring of Famer Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 2,994	It's just a communication issue.

09-28-2008, 05:22 PM	#11
HEAV Ring of Famer It's about the Team Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Ville Posts: 12,077 Adopt-a-Bronco: Brian Dawkins	Hell the defensive game plan is more like sybil! Meaning 4-3, then 3-4... it's a mess. Even when they go 3-4 they use it incorrectly! Rush the outside backers not the insiders!

09-28-2008, 05:25 PM	#12
Bob's your Information Minister Chiefs > Broncos Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 25,918 Adopt-a-Bronco: CHRIS KUPER!!!	No John Lynch = less run support.

09-28-2008, 05:28 PM	#13
oubronco John Foneco !! Mile High Magic Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Sooner Country Posts: 20,596	DAMN i just don't know what to say DAMN

09-28-2008, 05:29 PM	#14
footstepsfrom#27 helmet to helmet hitter Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Arlington, TX Posts: 16,117 Adopt-a-Bronco: Joe Mays	Today's result notwithstanding, the Chiefs are still the worst team in the NFL. Losing to this bunch is without excuse. I just consider it Karma for the two gift wins we got earlier.

09-28-2008, 05:45 PM	#17
The MVPlaya Denver Broncos out with the old, IN WITH THE NEW Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 5,384	Too many people on this forums are negative...idiots.

09-28-2008, 05:48 PM	#18
nickademus Samurai of Smack Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 1,105 Adopt-a-Bronco: Eddie Royal	IMHO we are about the same if we contain the run our passing D gets burned. fun stuff

09-28-2008, 05:52 PM	#19
Hercules Rockefeller Ring of Famer Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 16,005 Adopt-a-Bronco: DJ Williams	Yep. Today proved that they didn't look terrible earlier because it was the Bolts or the Saints, they proved today that they can't stop anyone. They had a chance to man up in the 4th when they knew that the Chiefs weren't going to do anything but run it unless they forced to pass, and they couldn't stop ****.

09-28-2008, 06:15 PM	#20
telluride Ring of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 2,557 Adopt-a-Bronco: --Rulon!--	We really need to lock Slowik in a closet and find someone else to game plan.

09-28-2008, 07:30 PM	#22
summerdenver Ring of Famer Rebuilding both offense and defense Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Seattle Posts: 1,822 Adopt-a-Bronco: Peyton Hillis	KC was playing with Herb Taylor and Damien Mcintosh at tackles and everyone knew they were going to run LJ. I mean they did not try to trick with formations or anything just lined up ran the ball for 200 yards. Their only legit receiving threats are Bowe and Tony G and if you can't stop them who are you going to stop? KC oline is really bad and if you can't get pressure on Huard who are going to get pressure on? No disrespect to KC but I honestly cannot image this KC team scoring > 10 points against strong run defenses like Pit or Bal. If the current Den defense is not the worst and I don't know what could be worse than this. BTW, I saw STL play Sea, Buf and Cin play NYG and they are definitely better than Den.

09-28-2008, 07:43 PM	#23
Bob's your Information Minister Chiefs > Broncos Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 25,918 Adopt-a-Bronco: CHRIS KUPER!!!	We ran for 184 on Atlanta last week. Give us a little credit. You guys looked better on run defense in other games.