It's McCains fault - The Orange Mane

watermock · 09-27-2008, 10:51 AM

not really, but look at this:

watermock · 09-27-2008, 01:26 PM

How per say? This isnt the Reagan years.

Paulson has allready conceded acorn and Reid and Dodd are criminals.

watermock · 09-27-2008, 01:32 PM

watermock · 09-27-2008, 02:02 PM

Repugs dont hold the senate! I dont think they hold the houise, at least till 04. Paulson and McCain introduced bills but they didnt get to the floor!

JHC! There was a big article in usa about paulson getting on one knee to polossi and her making a derogatory joke.

Bush tried april 2001. are you just ignorant. Watch the 1st one again.

watermock · 09-27-2008, 02:06 PM

Dodd is the Majority chairman of the senate finance commitee.

watermock · 09-27-2008, 02:11 PM

http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2008/09...ority_lea.html

Senate majority leader is harry reid
Pelosi is the house leader.http://www.reuters.com/article/bonds...48552220080926

What planet u on?

watermock · 09-27-2008, 02:21 PM

I posted the links a-hole. The leaders are polosi and reid. MAJORITY leaders. your a moron that wont accept facts.

peacepipe · 09-27-2008, 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by watermock

I posted the links a-hole. The leaders are polosi and reid. MAJORITY leaders. your a moron that wont accept facts.

The point remains reps controled house & senate for 12 of the last 14 years & the white house the last 8.

watermock · 09-27-2008, 02:29 PM

2001 thru 2006. You obviously didnt even listen to it.

I cant find a link... can you post one?

watermock · 09-27-2008, 02:34 PM

I stand corrected. They said they didnt have the votes.

watermock · 09-27-2008, 02:38 PM

Go look back at the first piece then. democrats(frank) blocked one proposal. 05 greenspan spoke out. McCail sponsored a bill in 06.

Rohirrim · 09-27-2008, 02:46 PM

Sorry. I just can't believe anything coming from the propaganda wing of the Republican Party.

watermock · 09-27-2008, 02:54 PM

The ony one that got more grease than Obama was Dodd.

watermock · 09-27-2008, 03:04 PM

Rules went in effect in 99. Noone complained while good times rolled , till the bubble started leaking. Banks were SUED for not relaxing standards enough. no, i dont have a link.

Dudeskey · 09-27-2008, 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by watermock

http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2008/09...ority_lea.html

Senate majority leader is harry reid
Pelosi is the house leader.http://www.reuters.com/article/bonds...48552220080926

What planet u on?

dude, from '02- '06, the Republicans did hold the majority in the senate (maybe sooner than that after Jim Jeffords went independent, not entirely sure). The House from '94 to 2006...™

watermock · 09-27-2008, 04:03 PM

irrelevant. Several warnings were made, failure all around.

McCaain introduced a bill. Look, we all know why these rules were loosened in 99.

baja · 09-27-2008, 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by watermock

irrelevant. Several warnings were made, failure all around.

McCaain introduced a bill. Look, we all know why these rules were loosened in 99.

So you could borrow money to not plant corn

L.A. BRONCOS FAN · 09-27-2008, 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDave

Sorry folks, but when you own the house, senate and pres, you don't get to point at the other party and say "They Blocked it". If they truly believed this was a problem then they should of gotten the votes necessary.

QFT.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN · 09-27-2008, 04:38 PM

McCain's Top Staffers Were Paid by Freddie Mac until Last Month

An article in Newsweek has now revealed that McCain's campaign manager, Rick Davis, was receiving monthly $15,000 checks until last month from Freddie Mac, the mortgage agency that the government recently took over. In addition, the head of McCain's transition team, William Timmons, Sr., was a registered lobbyist for Freddie Mac until this month according to an article on Bloomberg News. His firm received $260,000 this year for unspecified work. Although McCain likes to rail against lobbyists and how he will put them in their place, having his campaign being run by people who lobbied for Freddie Mac cuts to the heart of his pitch as a reformer. This story is soon going to be all over the place (see for example, Newsday, the NY Times, and Roll Call).

watermock · 09-27-2008, 04:50 PM

they greased alot of pockets, I agree. Both sides of the isle. no wonder there was gridlock.

watermock · 09-27-2008, 04:54 PM

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politic...09-obama_N.htm

baja · 09-27-2008, 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L.A. BRONCOS FAN

McCain's Top Staffers Were Paid by Freddie Mac until Last Month

An article in Newsweek has now revealed that McCain's campaign manager, Rick Davis, was receiving monthly $15,000 checks until last month from Freddie Mac, the mortgage agency that the government recently took over. In addition, the head of McCain's transition team, William Timmons, Sr., was a registered lobbyist for Freddie Mac until this month according to an article on Bloomberg News. His firm received $260,000 this year for unspecified work. Although McCain likes to rail against lobbyists and how he will put them in their place, having his campaign being run by people who lobbied for Freddie Mac cuts to the heart of his pitch as a reformer. This story is soon going to be all over the place (see for example, Newsday, the NY Times, and Roll Call).

The only reason this is not a huge story is because the financial world is falling apart and Sarah Palin is gleefully dumb so no more room for a "breaking news" story.

watermock · 09-27-2008, 04:57 PM

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The Politico is reporting; “Jamie S. Gorelick, deputy attorney general in the Clinton administration and a chief policy adviser to Hillary Rodham Clinton, is rumored to be a possible attorney general in an Obama administration. She was vice chairman of Fannie Mae and sat on its board of directors.” More Bad Judgment!

Remember when Barack Obama stood up for his Vice Presidential Search Committee member Jim Johnson? It was June 2008 and Jim Johnson had to resign because of a “controversy” about his time at embattled Countrywide Mortgage. It was not important that Jim Johnson received loans at a below market rate.

It was also largely ignored that Jim Johnson was former CEO of Fannie Mae. It seems that the CEO’s of Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae were cooking the books. The CEO’s have been inflating yearly earnings to receive their annual bonuses! They would then amend the earnings statements later in the year.

Not a single CEO missed their annual bonuses.

This directly affects the perception of Barack Obama’s Judgment!

Barack Obama should be calling out his friend and all of the CEO’s for the illegalities they have committed. The Enron executives are in jail! Remember Ken Lay? (Deceased)

This will not happen because CEO’s like Franklin Raines, former CEO for Fannie Mae are protected by the Democrat Party. It helps when your a close adviser to Barack Obama.

Business Week reported in January 2005:

“On Labor Day, he was a favorite to be Treasury Secretary should John Kerry win the White House. At yearend, he had left under a cloud. The charmed career of Franklin D. Raines — a poor kid from Seattle who climbed through Harvard and a Rhodes Scholarship to become White House budget director and CEO of Fannie Mae (FNM ) — crashed to a halt on Dec. 21. That was six days after the Securities & Exchange Commission’s top accountant declared that mortgage giant Fannie misstated earnings for 3 1/2 years, leading to an estimated $9 billion restatement that will wipe out 40% of profits from 2001 to mid-2004.”

Amazing how the Democrat officials never get the full arm of the law. This Democrat, Raines, would have been rewarded with Treasury Secretary, he was already White House Budget Director under former President William (Bill) Jefferson Clinton. Instead his settlement nets him $114,000 a MONTH!! From us, the taxpayers.

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baja · 09-27-2008, 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by watermock

they greased alot of pockets, I agree. Both sides of the isle. no wonder there was gridlock.

You're right Mock it's pretty bleak on both sides.

BTW glad to see you posting again my friend, here's to your health.

watermock · 09-27-2008, 05:01 PM

Your complaining about an adviser and 260k when millions and billions are involved?

09-27-2008, 10:51 AM	#1
watermock "Hoodie Jr" "Hug me!" Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Hot Springs, Ouachitah Posts: 77,090	It's McCains fault not really, but look at this:

09-27-2008, 02:11 PM	#6
watermock "Hoodie Jr" "Hug me!" Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Hot Springs, Ouachitah Posts: 77,090	http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2008/09...ority_lea.html Senate majority leader is harry reid Pelosi is the house leader.http://www.reuters.com/article/bonds...48552220080926 What planet u on? Last edited by watermock; 09-27-2008 at 02:13 PM..

09-27-2008, 02:21 PM	#7
watermock "Hoodie Jr" "Hug me!" Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Hot Springs, Ouachitah Posts: 77,090	I posted the links a-hole. The leaders are polosi and reid. MAJORITY leaders. your a moron that wont accept facts. Last edited by watermock; 09-27-2008 at 02:23 PM..

09-27-2008, 02:29 PM	#9
watermock "Hoodie Jr" "Hug me!" Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Hot Springs, Ouachitah Posts: 77,090	2001 thru 2006. You obviously didnt even listen to it. I cant find a link... can you post one? Last edited by watermock; 09-27-2008 at 02:31 PM..

09-27-2008, 02:38 PM	#11
watermock "Hoodie Jr" "Hug me!" Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Hot Springs, Ouachitah Posts: 77,090	Go look back at the first piece then. democrats(frank) blocked one proposal. 05 greenspan spoke out. McCail sponsored a bill in 06. Last edited by watermock; 09-27-2008 at 02:43 PM..

09-27-2008, 01:26 PM	#2
watermock "Hoodie Jr" "Hug me!" Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Hot Springs, Ouachitah Posts: 77,090	How per say? This isnt the Reagan years. Paulson has allready conceded acorn and Reid and Dodd are criminals.

09-27-2008, 01:32 PM	#3
watermock "Hoodie Jr" "Hug me!" Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Hot Springs, Ouachitah Posts: 77,090

09-27-2008, 02:02 PM	#4
watermock "Hoodie Jr" "Hug me!" Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Hot Springs, Ouachitah Posts: 77,090	Repugs dont hold the senate! I dont think they hold the houise, at least till 04. Paulson and McCain introduced bills but they didnt get to the floor! JHC! There was a big article in usa about paulson getting on one knee to polossi and her making a derogatory joke. Bush tried april 2001. are you just ignorant. Watch the 1st one again.

09-27-2008, 02:06 PM	#5
watermock "Hoodie Jr" "Hug me!" Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Hot Springs, Ouachitah Posts: 77,090	Dodd is the Majority chairman of the senate finance commitee.

09-27-2008, 02:34 PM	#10
watermock "Hoodie Jr" "Hug me!" Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Hot Springs, Ouachitah Posts: 77,090	I stand corrected. They said they didnt have the votes.

09-27-2008, 02:46 PM	#12
Rohirrim Partisan Human Cannonball Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Twixt Hell & Highwater Posts: 48,843	Sorry. I just can't believe anything coming from the propaganda wing of the Republican Party.

09-27-2008, 02:54 PM	#13
watermock "Hoodie Jr" "Hug me!" Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Hot Springs, Ouachitah Posts: 77,090	The ony one that got more grease than Obama was Dodd.

09-27-2008, 03:04 PM	#14
watermock "Hoodie Jr" "Hug me!" Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Hot Springs, Ouachitah Posts: 77,090	Rules went in effect in 99. Noone complained while good times rolled , till the bubble started leaking. Banks were SUED for not relaxing standards enough. no, i dont have a link.

09-27-2008, 04:03 PM	#16
watermock "Hoodie Jr" "Hug me!" Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Hot Springs, Ouachitah Posts: 77,090	irrelevant. Several warnings were made, failure all around. McCaain introduced a bill. Look, we all know why these rules were loosened in 99.

09-27-2008, 04:38 PM	#19
L.A. BRONCOS FAN Mo' holla fo' yo' dolla! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: In a bunker in an undisclosed location Posts: 52,694	McCain's Top Staffers Were Paid by Freddie Mac until Last Month An article in Newsweek has now revealed that McCain's campaign manager, Rick Davis, was receiving monthly $15,000 checks until last month from Freddie Mac, the mortgage agency that the government recently took over. In addition, the head of McCain's transition team, William Timmons, Sr., was a registered lobbyist for Freddie Mac until this month according to an article on Bloomberg News. His firm received $260,000 this year for unspecified work. Although McCain likes to rail against lobbyists and how he will put them in their place, having his campaign being run by people who lobbied for Freddie Mac cuts to the heart of his pitch as a reformer. This story is soon going to be all over the place (see for example, Newsday, the NY Times, and Roll Call).

09-27-2008, 04:50 PM	#20
watermock "Hoodie Jr" "Hug me!" Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Hot Springs, Ouachitah Posts: 77,090	they greased alot of pockets, I agree. Both sides of the isle. no wonder there was gridlock.

09-27-2008, 04:54 PM	#21
watermock "Hoodie Jr" "Hug me!" Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Hot Springs, Ouachitah Posts: 77,090	http://www.usatoday.com/news/politic...09-obama_N.htm

09-27-2008, 04:57 PM	#23
watermock "Hoodie Jr" "Hug me!" Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Hot Springs, Ouachitah Posts: 77,090	Ads by Google Barack Obama Exposed A Free special report on the real Barack Obama - get your copy today! www.HumanEvents.comFannie Mae investigation Fannie Mae stock plan participants 11/16/07 to present, contact us. www.shulaw.com By: John Keitel UPDATE: Franklin raines made $90 Million from Fannie Mae in 6 years! Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac problems started by democrat administration personnel. Two Senators receive more campaign contributions from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac than all others from 1989-2008. Number 1 - Senator Chris Dodd, (D) CONN Chairman Senate Banking Committee and former 2008 Democrat candidate for President. Number 2 - Senator Barack Obama, current 2008 Democrat Nominee for President. How did Barack Obama do this after only 3 years as a Senator? Bad Judgment. The Politico is reporting; “Jamie S. Gorelick, deputy attorney general in the Clinton administration and a chief policy adviser to Hillary Rodham Clinton, is rumored to be a possible attorney general in an Obama administration. She was vice chairman of Fannie Mae and sat on its board of directors.” More Bad Judgment! Remember when Barack Obama stood up for his Vice Presidential Search Committee member Jim Johnson? It was June 2008 and Jim Johnson had to resign because of a “controversy” about his time at embattled Countrywide Mortgage. It was not important that Jim Johnson received loans at a below market rate. It was also largely ignored that Jim Johnson was former CEO of Fannie Mae. It seems that the CEO’s of Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae were cooking the books. The CEO’s have been inflating yearly earnings to receive their annual bonuses! They would then amend the earnings statements later in the year. Not a single CEO missed their annual bonuses. This directly affects the perception of Barack Obama’s Judgment! Barack Obama should be calling out his friend and all of the CEO’s for the illegalities they have committed. The Enron executives are in jail! Remember Ken Lay? (Deceased) This will not happen because CEO’s like Franklin Raines, former CEO for Fannie Mae are protected by the Democrat Party. It helps when your a close adviser to Barack Obama. Business Week reported in January 2005: “On Labor Day, he was a favorite to be Treasury Secretary should John Kerry win the White House. At yearend, he had left under a cloud. The charmed career of Franklin D. Raines — a poor kid from Seattle who climbed through Harvard and a Rhodes Scholarship to become White House budget director and CEO of Fannie Mae (FNM ) — crashed to a halt on Dec. 21. That was six days after the Securities & Exchange Commission’s top accountant declared that mortgage giant Fannie misstated earnings for 3 1/2 years, leading to an estimated $9 billion restatement that will wipe out 40% of profits from 2001 to mid-2004.” Amazing how the Democrat officials never get the full arm of the law. This Democrat, Raines, would have been rewarded with Treasury Secretary, he was already White House Budget Director under former President William (Bill) Jefferson Clinton. Instead his settlement nets him $114,000 a MONTH!! From us, the taxpayers. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://digitalartpress.wordpress.com...d-jim-johnson/

09-27-2008, 05:01 PM	#25
watermock "Hoodie Jr" "Hug me!" Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Hot Springs, Ouachitah Posts: 77,090	Your complaining about an adviser and 260k when millions and billions are involved?

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