LJ & Reggie Bush for Marion Barber? - The Orange Mane

whatsgolden · 09-27-2008, 10:06 AM

I need some help. I think the trade is pretty fair, but I'm not sure.

I'd have to give up LJ and Reggie Bush for Marion Barber. It'd give me LT, Barber, Ronnie Brown, Edge, Mendenall and Jerious Norwood. I would be giving up having a ton of depth, but I don't know if Bush will be able to maintain his current pace of 20 points a game, and I don't think LJ will be super strong this year with their current QB situation. Plus, Barber and LT would be a pretty dominant force when LT starts to produce....

He wants to do this trade today, so any input would be greatly appreciated...

What do you think? 10 team league, I'm currently 3-0, and have 3 pretty good WRs in Fitzgerald, Ocho Cinco and Santana Moss.

Good trade? Bad Trade?

Thanks.

Jens1893 · 09-27-2008, 10:21 AM

DO IT!

I have a man crush on Marion Barber!

whatsgolden · 09-27-2008, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Jens1893

DO IT!

I have a man crush on Marion Barber!

I think the guys a beast, too. Just wasn't sure what to do. Still thinking about it, really. I suck at trades because I analyze everything too much. I get gun shy.

Jens1893 · 09-27-2008, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by whatsgolden

I think the guys a beast, too. Just wasn't sure what to do. Still thinking about it, really. I suck at trades because I analyze everything too much. I get gun shy.

I got Barber and Romo in my league and I couldn´t be happier with my first round pick. In Barber and LT you could easily have 2 of the top 5 fantasy running backs this season.

If I had the second pick in a draft today I would seriously consider taking Barber over LT and Westy.

whatsgolden · 09-30-2008, 10:34 AM

I didn't make the trade last week, but it's still on the table. Favre and LJ led my team to a domating victory. I think I'll take it this week, though. I'd love to have MBIII against the Bengals this week, and his schedule is pretty easy going forward.

Beantown Bronco · 10-01-2008, 07:30 AM

Just so long as you feel you can give up the depth....especially with Mendenhall out for the year now. You'd essentially be losing two starting calibre RBs in one week.

I remember you saying before that you are in a 10 team league, and I still can't get over the retards that must be in it. You have absolutely no business having this kind of roster.

whatsgolden · 10-01-2008, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Beantown Bronco

Just so long as you feel you can give up the depth....especially with Mendenhall out for the year now. You'd essentially be losing two starting calibre RBs in one week.

I remember you saying before that you are in a 10 team league, and I still can't get over the retards that must be in it. You have absolutely no business having this kind of roster.

I made the trade. The depth part sucks pretty bad, but I couldn't justify passing on LT and MBIII. Just too tempting. Of course, it could screw me... But, sometimes I like to gamble. I've still got Edge, Ronnie Brown and I signed Torain today, hoping that he turns into something down the stretch. I've definitely got the strongest roster, I just need them to stay healthy. Yeah, 10 team league. We've got a couple that aren't brilliant, and a couple that have a pretty good idea whats going on. Definitely the best roster I've had in 5 or 6 years playing FF.

I need to find a league with some better drafters. Some of the teams in our league turned out to be just horrendous. My bench outscores two or three teams every week.

Doggcow · 10-01-2008, 01:35 PM

Whats your QB look like? RBs are like fantasy gold, you likely need to improve other positions than slightly upgrade a RB and lose depth.

The way I look at trades is how they will effect me on a points per week basis. E.G. If I trade Brees and LT for Barber and Bush and Slaton I lose about 10 points per week because brees just scores a ****ton, even if the other 3 produce more total, since I'll be sitting at least one of them.

I honestly think Jay Cutler/Brandon Marshall/Drew Brees are MORE valuable to my team than Marion barber is. Barber is a great back, gets like 20 points a week, however I can service Forte for like 12 which I gain 8 to barber but lose like 8 from losing Brees or someone.

Basically what I'm saying is try and get Brees/Cutler/Marshall for your guys instead and just roll with LT and Ronnie Brown and something off waivers for byes (e.g. michael bush LeRon McClain, Ryan Torain in a couple weeks)

DB_champ24 · 10-02-2008, 07:53 PM

Your giving up way too much for just Barber, you should get something else too

whatsgolden · 10-03-2008, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Doggcow

Whats your QB look like? RBs are like fantasy gold, you likely need to improve other positions than slightly upgrade a RB and lose depth.

The way I look at trades is how they will effect me on a points per week basis. E.G. If I trade Brees and LT for Barber and Bush and Slaton I lose about 10 points per week because brees just scores a ****ton, even if the other 3 produce more total, since I'll be sitting at least one of them.

I honestly think Jay Cutler/Brandon Marshall/Drew Brees are MORE valuable to my team than Marion barber is. Barber is a great back, gets like 20 points a week, however I can service Forte for like 12 which I gain 8 to barber but lose like 8 from losing Brees or someone.

Basically what I'm saying is try and get Brees/Cutler/Marshall for your guys instead and just roll with LT and Ronnie Brown and something off waivers for byes (e.g. michael bush LeRon McClain, Ryan Torain in a couple weeks)

I look at trades the same exact way. Basically, the way I saw it is that LJ isn't going to go for 200 & 2TDs every week, Bush is more boom & bust, either 25 points or 3, and Barber is steady with 18-25. I wanted to make room for Ronnie Brown in my starting lineup. I've got Favre, Schaub and C. Palmer at QB, so I'd definitely like to upgrade there. My WRs are Fitz, Santana and Ocho, so I need some depth there as well. I'm going to drop or trade one of my QBs after Favre's bye week to gain some more solid WR depth, but overall, I like my team. Thanks for the input, looking forward to how this weekend plays out with LT & MBIII

Doggcow · 10-03-2008, 10:56 AM

I'm on the precipice of getting rid of Brees and LT. However I just cant find their value.

I play in a keeper league (keep 3 players at different positions, so usually everyone keeps 1RB/1QB/1WR) so I want to get younger at RB, but noone will trade value for LT or Brees. No idea why, I offered them to teams that could definately make a playoff push. Instead my team is probably going to absolutely kick the **** out of everyone this season and taper off next.

DB_champ24 · 10-03-2008, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Doggcow

I'm on the precipice of getting rid of Brees and LT. However I just cant find their value.

I play in a keeper league (keep 3 players at different positions, so usually everyone keeps 1RB/1QB/1WR) so I want to get younger at RB, but noone will trade value for LT or Brees. No idea why, I offered them to teams that could definately make a playoff push. Instead my team is probably going to absolutely kick the **** out of everyone this season and taper off next.

I wish I were in a keeper league, if you could tell me any sites that would be great. I'm with you on giving up on LT because I think his BEST years are behind him, not saying he still won't produce or be a great back. But it would be hard to trade LT like how you said with the value situation. Maybe try and get a young RB like Forte, Stewart, or even Turner and take a risk on them, while snagging a top WR? As for Brees, why do you want to give him up? I think he has atleast 3-5 probowl years left in the tank. If you were to get Cutler or Rivers for him( even though it would almost be unbearable to play fantasy with Rivers on your team) then I'd for sure give him up.

tsiguy96 · 10-11-2008, 10:15 PM

bet you regret this one

Doggcow · 10-11-2008, 10:53 PM

Bush is the highest scoring RB in fantasy heh

whatsgolden · 10-13-2008, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by tsiguy96

bet you regret this one

You know, it does suck a little, but I think it'll work out in the long run. Looking back, I should have gotten a WR thrown in, but I'll be okay. I needed to unload a couple of starters so I could get Ronnie Brown into my lineup. Also, now that Romo is out for a couple of weeks, I'd guess that MBII's opportunities will do nothing but increase.

I don't think Bush will continue at his current pace. After two weeks, I'm down about 13 points overall in the trade, but I more than made up for that in having R. Brown in my lineup. I didn't make the trade just for the last two weeks, I did it to solidify my team for the season, which I still think I did.

Hopefully, my WRs will hold up, and not getting a WR thrown in will be a moot point.

whatsgolden · 10-13-2008, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Doggcow

Bush is the highest scoring RB in fantasy heh

Actually, Portis & Turner have more points in our league than Bush.

Doggcow · 10-13-2008, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by whatsgolden

Actually, Portis & Turner have more points in our league than Bush.

you must not give proper compensation for catches then

Bush owns the touchdown column too.

whatsgolden · 10-13-2008, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Doggcow

you must not give proper compensation for catches then

Bush owns the touchdown column too.

Yeah, not a PPR league. But, if it was, Barber would be right up there too, he's got like 25 so far this year.

We'll see what happens. FF just isn't fun for me unless I'm gambling on big trades.

09-27-2008, 10:06 AM	#1
whatsgolden Seasoned Veteran Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: FTC, CO Posts: 259	LJ & Reggie Bush for Marion Barber? I need some help. I think the trade is pretty fair, but I'm not sure. I'd have to give up LJ and Reggie Bush for Marion Barber. It'd give me LT, Barber, Ronnie Brown, Edge, Mendenall and Jerious Norwood. I would be giving up having a ton of depth, but I don't know if Bush will be able to maintain his current pace of 20 points a game, and I don't think LJ will be super strong this year with their current QB situation. Plus, Barber and LT would be a pretty dominant force when LT starts to produce.... He wants to do this trade today, so any input would be greatly appreciated... What do you think? 10 team league, I'm currently 3-0, and have 3 pretty good WRs in Fitzgerald, Ocho Cinco and Santana Moss. Good trade? Bad Trade? Thanks.

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09-27-2008, 10:21 AM	#2
Jens1893 Ring of Famer Join Date: May 2001 Location: People´s Republic of Bad Cannstatt Posts: 9,170	DO IT! I have a man crush on Marion Barber!

09-30-2008, 10:34 AM	#5
whatsgolden Seasoned Veteran Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: FTC, CO Posts: 259	I didn't make the trade last week, but it's still on the table. Favre and LJ led my team to a domating victory. I think I'll take it this week, though. I'd love to have MBIII against the Bengals this week, and his schedule is pretty easy going forward.

10-01-2008, 07:30 AM	#6
Beantown Bronco Athletic Supporter Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mass Posts: 19,119 Adopt-a-Bronco: Matt Prater	Just so long as you feel you can give up the depth....especially with Mendenhall out for the year now. You'd essentially be losing two starting calibre RBs in one week. I remember you saying before that you are in a 10 team league, and I still can't get over the retards that must be in it. You have absolutely no business having this kind of roster.

10-01-2008, 01:35 PM	#8
Doggcow Rebel Laughs At Unbelievers Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 8,341 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	Whats your QB look like? RBs are like fantasy gold, you likely need to improve other positions than slightly upgrade a RB and lose depth. The way I look at trades is how they will effect me on a points per week basis. E.G. If I trade Brees and LT for Barber and Bush and Slaton I lose about 10 points per week because brees just scores a ****ton, even if the other 3 produce more total, since I'll be sitting at least one of them. I honestly think Jay Cutler/Brandon Marshall/Drew Brees are MORE valuable to my team than Marion barber is. Barber is a great back, gets like 20 points a week, however I can service Forte for like 12 which I gain 8 to barber but lose like 8 from losing Brees or someone. Basically what I'm saying is try and get Brees/Cutler/Marshall for your guys instead and just roll with LT and Ronnie Brown and something off waivers for byes (e.g. michael bush LeRon McClain, Ryan Torain in a couple weeks)

10-02-2008, 07:53 PM	#9
DB_champ24 Pro Bowler Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Agoura, California Posts: 526 Adopt-a-Bronco: Champ Bailey	Your giving up way too much for just Barber, you should get something else too

10-03-2008, 10:56 AM	#11
Doggcow Rebel Laughs At Unbelievers Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 8,341 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	I'm on the precipice of getting rid of Brees and LT. However I just cant find their value. I play in a keeper league (keep 3 players at different positions, so usually everyone keeps 1RB/1QB/1WR) so I want to get younger at RB, but noone will trade value for LT or Brees. No idea why, I offered them to teams that could definately make a playoff push. Instead my team is probably going to absolutely kick the **** out of everyone this season and taper off next.

10-11-2008, 10:15 PM	#13
tsiguy96 Ring of Famer New to the Forum Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 12,563 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	bet you regret this one

10-11-2008, 10:53 PM	#14
Doggcow Rebel Laughs At Unbelievers Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 8,341 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	Bush is the highest scoring RB in fantasy heh