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09-26-2008, 02:52 AM
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Whats the point../Apa's Ban
In having 4 corners who are all physical bump and run corners if were never going to play bump and run man on man
 I mean am i the only one smart enough to recognize that we get pressure but its always a split second late?? Am i the only one who realize that if we bump and run we would be knocking wide outs off there routes breaking up the timing of the plays giving our DL an extra second to get to the QB that they clearly need?? Hmmmmm Looks like we play Arena Football as far as coverage goes by giving the wide outs 5-10 yards of gunning up the field going where ever they want to go. |
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09-26-2008, 04:52 AM
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I have to agree, so much about our scheme on D doesn't make sense to me and this is just one of those things.
Sort it out, Slowik. |
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09-26-2008, 05:24 AM
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Yeah man it kinda makes me sick, Before Champ came to Denver he was the best bump and run man on man corner and thats really all the Skins used him to do.
He doesnt look like he lost a step so whats the problem? Bly can still run so whats the problem?? Paymah is fantastic at it so whats the problem? Jack Williams physical as hell and is a bump and run corner so whats the problem? I mean damn at some point you gotta get your asses up in the air and jam the hell out of these wide outs with safety help over the top if needed......I dont see a point in having safety help over the top of your corners when there lined up 10 yards off the WR. I hope before its too late the DC or somebody realize that the pressure is getting there but its just a split second late...So Vs good QBs there going to eat that shyt up allday long exspecially how we jump out on teams forcing them to throw. Hell id throw it on us regardless of being down for the simple fact we let guys fly into the secondary like its practice or something. Malcolm Jenkings is starting to sound good to me for some reason if these coaches dont believe our corners can play bump and run....But i know thats not the case... Is the Broncos scared of giving up the big play the reason we dont play bump and run man on man with our Corners?? If so thats sad... |
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09-26-2008, 05:28 AM
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This is stupid.
You want to know why Champ plays off as he does? Because he can see the QB and read where he's going with the ball. Thats how he gets as many interceptions as he does, and also a reason why he gives up plays as well. |
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09-26-2008, 05:33 AM
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 Much has been written about Champ prefering to play in zone defenses. Beyond that, he plays off the receiver, facing the QB, so he can both read the QB, and react to runs. He has had 70+ solo tackles the last two years, because he reads the run so well. |
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09-26-2008, 05:39 AM
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He didnt have a huge year last year and its not looking like hell have a huge year this year. Champ is a dominant bump and run corner and has good ball skills to find the ball when its in the air. That 10 yards off zone shyt is what allows teams to eat him and everybody else ass up for gains all over the field. Look at the times there getting beat there in that zone shyt playing way off...Still not making plays and its still not giving our DL extra time to get to the QB you dumb ass. Bronco fans complain about not getting pressure but we dont do anything to help the DL..... Have you ever seen an Arena football game clown Those are the rules were playing by. And still explain why getting to the QB is stupid again Ill wait...... |
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09-26-2008, 05:42 AM
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With DJ, Boss and the rest of those guys flying to the ball on running downs we dont need to rely on a corner to make the tackle as much. And we SHOULD NOT!!. Champ does not prefer the "zone" Champ prefers whatever the coaches ask him to do.....For what 5-6 years in washington all he played was bump and run and NEVER complain....He built his reputation as the best ****ing corner in the NFL BEFORE DENVER IN WASHINGTON PLAYING BUMP AND RUN!!. He had a couple magic seasons here in Denver but overall his career in washington was way better as far as shutting WRs down playing bump and run.... |
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09-26-2008, 05:45 AM
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And this thread aint about just CHAMP its about our CBs as a whole......
There all physical bump and run corners who play nothing but zone lmao. I mean seriously ill take the three and outs or getting off the field and more sacks over an INT every once in a while. You dudes are beyond insane. lol |
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09-26-2008, 06:08 AM
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I can't stand how they play so much zone they have been playing off the corners for quite some time and it really burns my ass remember Wayne on Alexander (shivers) man that was bad
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09-26-2008, 06:14 AM
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This thread is win.
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09-26-2008, 06:16 AM
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Then i see members on this forum who claim Bly and Paymah cant tackle......Well okay if Blye and Paymah cant tackle why the hell would you line themup 10 yards off the wideout
Your asking for short slants and screens putting them in a position where they HAVE to tackle...I Wish could ask Slowick why he does'nt play bump and run...... |
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09-26-2008, 06:20 AM
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Champ plays so far off because he's defending half the field on his own. The other corners play off because they'll get burnt and our safeties are worthless.
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09-26-2008, 06:25 AM
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Reality is Champs not defending half of anything. Those days ended two years ago.......
We have some athletic safeties who can run to the ball....Champ and the rest of them need to have there ass right in the WRs face pushing them around. Free releases consistantly is just never going to get the job done and its starting to show.....Team are not throwing away from Champ anymore aslong as hes playing that far off, There going to hit him with slant after slant untill he bites on one and then gets beat over the top trying to defend "half the field"........Thats why when he gets beat its normally for a touchdown.... Lets stop using Champ as if hes superman and does not need help over the top for one. Thats a part of the mistake itself.... |
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09-26-2008, 06:33 AM
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But the bottom line is with Bump and Run you can dictate where you want the WR to go....You all dont think that would also help the safeties knowing where the help is needed
?Instead of a WR coming at them with the options of going left right or up and over?? I just think this benefits the whole defense. This is a team with alot of talent on the DL and its a shame to let it go to waste, Unfair for fans to continue to blame them when were allowing guys to fly up the field. |
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09-26-2008, 06:47 AM
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09-26-2008, 06:50 AM
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09-26-2008, 06:52 AM
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Give it a try. Nothing to loose.
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09-26-2008, 07:05 AM
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I was so hoping this was about Casino lamenting that everyone has him on ignore now.
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09-26-2008, 07:12 AM
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09-26-2008, 07:14 AM
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09-26-2008, 07:23 AM
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09-26-2008, 07:25 AM
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What lame brain scheme is dumb **** coming up with now.
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09-26-2008, 07:26 AM
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09-26-2008, 07:28 AM
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No its not "needed" on this team.
Its just a load of bull****. Were not a bad team vs the run this year......We are a team thats going to have to do what we need to do to get pressure on the QB and that means re routing these Wideouts and getting physical with them.... If your corner is not good enough to realize when a WR is running a route or not then he should not be playing in the NFL....Wideouts are either gonna engage in the block early if its a run or not.....So if champ is jamming the guy and the WR is engaging in that shyt then hes physical enough to break off the block and stil chip in to make the tackle or atleast force the guy back inside. |
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09-26-2008, 07:32 AM
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Check out these Men In Skirts lmao, Rather than to make some sorta football post they rather tell thereselves "hes right" in there own minds but yet come in here and make the same ol lame jokes they posted a week ago....
Creativity is lacking and thats why you have no knowledge on the game of football. Brick your as dumb as a ****ing brick. lmao. I kill you dudes when it comes to football and bashing its so obvious. This thread is $$$$$$$$ and you all hate it because you didnt think of it. lmao |
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