My 09 mock as of now

[CasinoRoyal]

http://condraft.com/mocks/member-mocks/?id=5511

Round 1, Pick# 32 - William Moore. (Safety), Missouri

Safety out of Missouri who should fall towards the back end of the draft with guys like Mays.Rolle,coming out

Round 2, Pick# 32 - Jasper Brinkley. (MLB) USC

In dying need of a MLB this is a no brainer fa me if hes still on the board.

Round 3, Pick# 32 - Anthony Heygood (OLB) Purdue

Boss Bailey experiment will probably last only one year. We need a Strong side LB...

Round 4, Pick# 32 - Domonique Johnson, (CB) Jackson State

Champ and Dre wont be around mch longer. Jack is a future starter but after him.........

Round 5, Pick# 5 - Sammie Lee Hill, (DT) Stillman

Need big time depth at the DT position

Round 5, Pick# 32 - Dorell Scott, ( DT) Clemson

Need more Depth at the DT postion, to have an effective rotation. Thomas and robertson cant do it all

Round 6, Pick# 3 - Brandon Ore, (DT) Western Liberty state

Sleeper RB i think he was at VTech..

Round 7, Pick# 3 - Jamaal Westerman, (DE) Rutgers

solid depth

Round 7, Pick# 32 - Mike Dent, (Center) West Virginia

Solid depth behind weighman because Nalen is done. Plus hes our type of guy

[chaz]

um...round 6 clarification please?

[CasinoRoyal]

What? Brandon Ore?

[chaz]

Originally Posted by CasinoRoyal

http://condraft.com/mocks/member-mocks/?id=5511

Round 1, Pick# 32 - William Moore. (Safety), Missouri

Safety out of Missouri who should fall towards the back end of the draft with guys like Mays.Rolle,coming out

Round 2, Pick# 32 - Jasper Brinkley. (MLB) USC

In dying need of a MLB this is a no brainer fa me if hes still on the board.

Round 3, Pick# 32 - Anthony Heygood (OLB) Purdue

Boss Bailey experiment will probably last only one year. We need a Strong side LB...

Round 4, Pick# 32 - Domonique Johnson, (CB) Jackson State

Champ and Dre wont be around mch longer. Jack is a future starter but after him.........

Round 5, Pick# 5 - Sammie Lee Hill, (DT) Stillman

Need big time depth at the DT position

Round 5, Pick# 32 - Dorell Scott, ( DT) Clemson

Need more Depth at the DT postion, to have an effective rotation. Thomas and robertson cant do it all

Round 6, Pick# 3 - Brandon Ore, (DT) Western Liberty state

[/I]Sleeper RB i think he was at VTech.. [/I]

Round 7, Pick# 3 - Jamaal Westerman, (DE) Rutgers

solid depth

Round 7, Pick# 32 - Mike Dent, (Center) West Virginia

Solid depth behind weighman because Nalen is done. Plus hes our type of guy

a DT is a sleeper RB?

[elsid13]

Stay away from Ore, he has off the field problem and Beamer asked him to leave the team. And this is a coach that give the Vicks multiply chances

[CasinoRoyal]

Meant RB of course Ore is not a DT lol.

Has Ore got into off the field stuff since being kicked off the team??

[bpc]

Yeah, Ore has had multiple infractions at Va Tech for various offenses.

YOU KNOW he had to be bad if Beamer kicked him off.

[socalorado]

Also, when did Brinkley transfer to USC?!?!

[CasinoRoyal]

Originally Posted by socalorado

Also, when did Brinkley transfer to USC?!?!

University of South Carolina.........There are two USC's.......

[lex]

Not bad. From what Ive seen Brinkley may be a reach in the 2nd but he has been playing well so who knows. I think more realistically we may take someone like Darry Beckwith depending on where we draft.

[CasinoRoyal]

Yeah Beckwith is nice but i thought hed end up going in the mid 20s.

Brinkley is an animal though for a MLB. way more athletic too.

But my mocks chang everyday exspecially in the off season.

[lex]

Originally Posted by CasinoRoyal

Yeah Beckwith is nice but i thought hed end up going in the mid 20s.

Brinkley is an animal though for a MLB. way more athletic too.

But my mocks chang everyday exspecially in the off season.

Yeah, ok, but also remember that Spikes is another MLB that is slotted to go high. Its also important to consider value for where the pick is. That encompasses where a guy is slotted along with the availability of a comparable player later. A lot of people like to take the shopping list approach which often neglects to consider value. Take last draft for example. Tackle and running back were the two positions of greatest value at 12. And that also means not taking a player who is overrated but is buoyed by a dearth of players at that position.

[CasinoRoyal]

We took a tackle because we needed a tackle......

And the 2nd round pick being #32 as listed is basically a 3rd.....I doubt hed drop to the back of the 3rd so id go ahead and take him right there @ pick 32 in the 2nd if it was me.

[lex]

Originally Posted by CasinoRoyal

We took a tackle because we needed a tackle......

And the 2nd round pick being #32 as listed is basically a 3rd.....I doubt hed drop to the back of the 3rd so id go ahead and take him right there @ pick 32 in the 2nd if it was me.

Youre being too myopic. We took a tackle because, yes we needed one, but also because it was a good class of tackles. If it would have been a down year for offensive tackles, we may have gone a different direction because we wouldnt have been getting value by drafting a 2nd round tackle in the 1st because OT was at the top of our shopping list.

[CasinoRoyal]

Of course nobodyz gonna take a 2nd round guy at pick 12, But they would take a 2nd round guy at picks 29-30-31-32 of the first round......

[lex]

Originally Posted by CasinoRoyal

Of course nobodyz gonna take a 2nd round guy at pick 12, But they would take a 2nd round guy at picks 29-30-31-32 of the first round......

But they were drafting at 12. My point is, if they draft a guy at 12, they cant solely look at what they need. They also have to look at value in terms of what the guy can contribute. In some years you may have tackles that are much worse available at 12 and in that case, youre not getting value out of them. And regarding your 29-32 reference, it still depends on where they feel the value is. This is why teams try to trade down.

[CasinoRoyal]

Yeah your telling me things i already heard of though as far as "value" i dont even know how we got on the value topic anyway. : /

[lex]

Originally Posted by CasinoRoyal

Yeah your telling me things i already heard of though as far as "value" i dont even know how we got on the value topic anyway. : /

What prompted the value discussion is where you have Brinkley. You might be right. If he's not now he may be a 2nd by draft time...but not from what Ive seen.

[Odysseus]

I like any draft in 2009 that drafts only defense.

[skpac1001]

Nice mock. I would be pretty happy with this.

[BroncoMan4ever]

I like Brinkley as our MLB.

On the topic of Ore, I wouldn't be interested even if he wasn't a turd. I want a bigger RB. we keep bringing in smaller speed backs that are good change of pace guys, but I want a workhorse. I want a 20-25 carries a game RB. So to have that i want Denver to draft a RB who has a 6ft 225-240lbs frame. Basically i want a Michael Bush or Jonathon Stewart type in Denver.

[Doggcow]

Originally Posted by BroncoMan4ever

I like Brinkley as our MLB.

On the topic of Ore, I wouldn't be interested even if he wasn't a turd. I want a bigger RB. we keep bringing in smaller speed backs that are good change of pace guys, but I want a workhorse. I want a 20-25 carries a game RB. So to have that i want Denver to draft a RB who has a 6ft 225-240lbs frame. Basically i want a Michael Bush or Jonathon Stewart type in Denver.

We have Ryan Torain, btw.

[BroncoMan4ever]

Originally Posted by Doggcow

We have Ryan Torain, btw.

Until i see him on the field contributing I am going to say we need a big stud RB.
And unless he has a Ryan Grant type of impact when he joins the lineup I will say to draft a big RB next season.