US in financial free fall.....

[mhgaffney]

Until recently -- leading $$$ pundits were telling us "the worst is over..."

Today, it is clear: that was hogwash.

We have just seen the collapse of two of the world's largest private investment companies, Lehman Bros and Merrill Lynch. Followed by a 500 point plunge on Wall Street.

And the worst is still to come.

It looks like in the next few days we will witness the failure of the much larger AIG (American International Group), an insurance company with one $$$$ trillion in assets.

If this happens it will be the largest bankruptcy in world history.
http://www.bloggingstocks.com/2008/0...kruptcy-today/

The repercussions are bound to be of epic proportions.

Yet candidate McCain is still spouting nonsense about how the US economy is "fundamentally sound"

How can it be that McCain is even with Obama in the polls -- or even ahead?

McCain's rhetoric about being a Washington outsider and the candidate of change is an obvious lie. Are the American people brain dead?

In fact, McCain's top $ adviser Phil Gramm helped draft the legislation that was responsible for the securitization revolution that caused this train wreck.

Is the answer that the Democrats are so lame they can't even beat a warmonger who has no answers and no program other than more of the same, (i.e., a 100 years' war)?

Why is there no true opposition party in America?

What we have is a uniparty system with a Republican wing and a Democratic wing. But why would American voters select McCain-lite (Obama) when they can have the real thing (i.e., a lunatic) simply by voting for McCain?

Are we living through the terminal phase of the breakdown of America? So it would seem.

MHG

[Spider]

I havent hear anyone say the worse is over , in fact they had some talking hair do on the other day before all of this AIG **** , and he flat out said , what makes things worse is we dont know where the bottom is , not even close .......

[TheDave]

Originally Posted by Spider

I havent hear anyone say the worse is over , in fact they had some talking hair do on the other day before all of this AIG **** , and he flat out said , what makes things worse is we dont know where the bottom is , not even close .......

No one knows where the bottom is, and until the housing market stabilizes we won't know. Fortunatelty, places like colorado and Wyoming have already leveled off. people just need to hang in there.

[ak1971]

Originally Posted by TheDave

No one knows where the bottom is, and until the housing market stabilizes we won't know. Fortunatelty, places like colorado and Wyoming have already leveled off. people just need to hang in there.

2012 is my prediction of when things will stabilize. Usually takes a decade for bubbles to stabilize


and as for Wyoming..

[W*GS]

Originally Posted by mhgaffney

Are we living through the terminal phase of the breakdown of America? So it would seem.

When it comes to recognizing breakdowns, you're the expert, ol' Mark "mini-nuke" Gaffney.

Hate to break it to you, but your dark fantasy of the collapse of the US ain't gonna happen, just like Tehran being a smoking crater (imminently, at least that's what you told us months and months ago) ain't gonna happen.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Funny how W*GS doesn't protest this kind of socialism:

Bailout of AIG announced

The government will rescue the ailing insurance giant with an $85 billion loan.

[W*GS]

I'm a libertarian, LABF.

I do not approve of State bailouts of ****ed financial firms.

Period.

[ak1971]

Originally Posted by mhgaffney

Why is there no true opposition party in America?

how bout a tin foil party

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Did you know you just loaned AIG billions?

Who's next?

AIG was making quite a handsome profit already, thank you very much, in its insurance business, but they saw all this money being made in the subprime market - so they violated their own rules to grab after more and more cash.

PURE UNADULTERATED GREED

And they were not disclosing their risks. Someone should fry for this cooking of the books.

[W*GS]

Originally Posted by L.A. BRONCOS FAN

Funny how W*GS doesn't protest this kind of socialism

Another day, another lie about me from LABF.

[Spider]

Originally Posted by TheDave

No one knows where the bottom is, and until the housing market stabilizes we won't know. Fortunatelty, places like colorado and Wyoming have already leveled off. people just need to hang in there.

I got a feeling Wyoming is about to crash and crash hard , well except for Gillette it may survive ....... Just a gut feeling ........

[TheDave]

Originally Posted by Spider

I got a feeling Wyoming is about to crash and crash hard , well except for Gillette it may survive ....... Just a gut feeling ........

Depends... If gas/oil/minerals maintains, it won't. FWIW if it goes to **** Baja style bring the wife and kids down to Erie. We can all load up in one of your big rigs and take over Baja's ranch

[Spider]

Originally Posted by TheDave

Depends... If gas/oil/minerals maintains, it won't. FWIW if it goes to **** Baja style bring the wife and kids down to Erie. We can all load up in one of your big rigs and take over Baja's ranch

here is the F-you to wyoming , we are getting a fraction per gallon/ pound for our minerals as everyone else ...... The Rocky mountain pipeline was supposed to fix that , it hasnt , we dont make crapola of of our coal either ........everything we got here you guys got more of in Colorado and Utah ....Utah is freaking rich in natty gas ......Colorado is ripe , California is experiencing a resurgence in 50 + oil fields/ Natty gas alone around LA . freakish what CO2 injecting has done ..... but yeah Lets load up and go to Baja crib .....

[TheDave]

Originally Posted by Spider

here is the F-you to wyoming , we are getting a fraction per gallon/ pound for our minerals as everyone else ...... The Rocky mountain pipeline was supposed to fix that , it hasnt , we dont make crapola of of our coal either ........everything we got here you guys got more of in Colorado and Utah ....Utah is freaking rich in natty gas ......Colorado is ripe , California is experiencing a resurgence in 50 + oil fields/ Natty gas alone around LA . freakish what CO2 injecting has done ..... but yeah Lets load up and go to Baja crib .....

In all seriousness you greatest natural resource is wind... If I was Wyoming i would spend the next 5-10 years putting up a turbine on every sq inch of the land. With the new mandates that congress is placing on renewable energy you guys could become the in supplier to every utility company in the US.

[Spider]

Originally Posted by TheDave

In all seriousness you greatest natural resource is wind... If I was Wyoming i would spend the next 5-10 years putting up a turbine on every sq inch of the land. With the new mandates that congress is placing on renewable energy you guys could become the in supplier to every utility company in the US.

we got em all over now ...... but from what I understand , they just dont produce enough

[Spider]

I was talking to a buddy of mine that works for Ensign drilling , he is ready to get out dodge , wanting to go to Utah Vernal area , told me to go there make a killing , the future is CNG gas , get in now while the money is good , buy a mini ranch .......I cant move no more , and if i do I am heading to California ..... Bakersfield , Victorville area Somewhere where the winters are not so harsh

[baja]

It's not all bad, soon these folks will slim down.







Food shortages are coming to a town near you soon.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

You just had to post that right when I was eating, didn't you?

[mhgaffney]

Food shortages?

Not for me. I grow food year round in my solar heated greenhouse.

The walls are 15 inch thick concrete/stone -- to catch and hold the sun's heat in winter -- and keep it cool in summer. It's a fly wheel effect.

Frogs control the bugs -- also birds. They fly in and out.

I can grow all of my veggies. No herbicides or pesticides. Fully organic and fresh.

[baja]

Originally Posted by mhgaffney

Food shortages?

Not for me. I grow food year round in my solar heated greenhouse.

The walls are 15 inch thick concrete/stone -- to catch and hold the sun's heat in winter -- and keep it cool in summer. It's a fly wheel effect.

Frogs control the bugs -- also birds. They fly in and out.

I can grow all of my veggies. No herbicides or pesticides. Fully organic and fresh.

Nice!

Hope you are in a remote spot. There will be many hungry folks roaming around and you can't feed them all. That's the tough part IMO

[baja]

Matthew thru Suzanne Ward

This is Matthew with loving greetings. We will present our requested
perspective on the potential for a very substantial and disruptive event
during the next sixty days, which the collective consciousness that some
individuals have the ability to tap into, have reported.

Those who planned the 9/11 and the dark forces behind them enabled the
Illuminati to manifest that tragic day. Thatis when Earth chose never again
to experience such death and destruction at the hands of dark ones, and in
honoring her free will choice, God authorized off-planet helpers to use
their technology to prevent all such unconscionable attempts anywhere in the
world. Since then they have done so successfully on as many as a dozen
occasions.

The Earth puppets of the darkness have been seeing their power erode to the
extent that it is do or die time, and despite their failure in plot after
plot, they feel that they still have a chance to prevail if they can prevent
both of the following scenarios that indeed will be very substantial and
disruptive events. And they cannot prevent either!

First, the undeniable presence of other civilizations. The time for their
announced appearance October 14 has simply come. If safety cannot be assured
for people on Earth and the souls in the star nations until that date, the
delay in that occurrence will not be lengthy. When it happens, it will be
extremely disruptive especially within the US government. It has been under
Illuminati control long time. Thus it has denied the possibility of other
civilizations' existence. And much less it has admitted that
extraterrestrials have met with its leaders. And even much less they have
admitted the consequences meted out to those beings who came with only
peaceful intentions.

Second, the truth about who planned and executed 9/11 with come out in the
open. In the higher vibrations in which Earth is now orbiting, that truth
cannot be hidden much longer. It will emerge along with its purpose, which
was much deeper than controlling oil resources in the Mid-east. The purpose
was to dominate the entire planet and kill many and enslave the rest. The
Illuminati's long reign of terror will now meet its just end.

The global impact of these two major events is part of the ongoing world
transformation. The spiritual renewal of Earth's humankind, the God-blessed
ascension venture with your space brothers and sisters is something all of
you on the planet chose in prebirth agreements to be participants of.

It is equally important that you know what other individuals who also have
the ability to tap into the collective consciousness are seeing. Many are
accurately seeing what we have described in Earth's Golden Age --the loving,
peaceful life of all peoples, the restoration of your planet's health and
beauty, the harmonious co-existence of humankind with all of Nature.

This wondrous higher dimensional Earth is on the near horizon and already
created in the continuum.

[Rohirrim]

I've got an M16. I'll find food.

[W*GS]

Originally Posted by baja

Matthew thru Suzanne Ward

If you really believe this...

Wow.

[Rohirrim]

Originally Posted by baja

It is equally important that you know what other individuals who also have
the ability to tap into the collective consciousness are seeing. Many are
accurately seeing what we have described in Earth's Golden Age --the loving,
peaceful life of all peoples, the restoration of your planet's health and
beauty, the harmonious co-existence of humankind with all of Nature.

This wondrous higher dimensional Earth is on the near horizon and already
created in the continuum.

Sounds good to me, but what are we going to do with all these ****ing troglodytes?