T.Boone Pickens

[Spider]

Sure is pushing the hell out of CNG gas ... even mentioned home refueling tapped into a Nat gas line .........

[snowspot66]

Critics say he's invested heavily in all of this stuff. I don't understand why that stops it from being a good idea to invest in this stuff. So the smartest guy in the room wants to make a buck. Why not evaluate the idea/plan on an individual basis?

[Spider]

Originally Posted by snowspot66

Critics say he's invested heavily in all of this stuff. I don't understand why that stops it from being a good idea to invest in this stuff. So the smartest guy in the room wants to make a buck. Why not evaluate the idea/plan on an individual basis?

Yeah , I agree I dont give a rats ass how invested he is , he saw the future , took advantage , i have a hard time arguing with T. Boone , he has been right alot more then been wrong ....... I just dont know about CNG in big rigs

[Bronco Bob]

Originally Posted by Spider

Yeah , I agree I dont give a rats ass how invested he is , he saw the future , took advantage , i have a hard time arguing with T. Boone , he has been right alot more then been wrong ....... I just dont know about CNG in big rigs

Here in town most of the city owned equipment is set up to run on diesel
and CNG. I was talking with a guy who drives a dump truck. He said
there is a significant difference in power. He can usually make it from
green light to green light running on diesel, but with CNG it has such
poor acceleration that he ends up red light to red light on CNG.

[Spider]

Originally Posted by Bronco Bob

Here in town most of the city owned equipment is set up to run on diesel
and CNG. I was talking with a guy who drives a dump truck. He said
there is a significant difference in power. He can usually make it from
green light to green light running on diesel, but with CNG it has such
poor acceleration that he ends up red light to red light on CNG.

yeah i can see where that could be a problem , but if cost is worth it , I get paid by the hour

[Bronco Bob]

Originally Posted by Spider

yeah i can see where that could be a problem , but if cost is worth it , I get paid by the hour

Well, it does save the city money using CNG, so I guess it amounts
to, do they save enough money on fuel to offset the lost time
that the dump truck driver spends sitting at red lights. With the
price of diesel these days, I suspect they do come out ahead.
Most of the buses also run on CNG and they do a lot of stopping
and starting anyway so the dead time for the driver is probably
even less of a problem. Idling at a bus stop burning CNG vs
burning diesel.

[Spider]

Originally Posted by Bronco Bob

Well, it does save the city money using CNG, so I guess it amounts
to, do they save enough money on fuel to offset the lost time
that the dump truck driver spends sitting at red lights. With the
price of diesel these days, I suspect they do come out ahead.
Most of the buses also run on CNG and they do a lot of stopping
and starting anyway so the dead time for the driver is probably
even less of a problem. Idling at a bus stop burning CNG vs
burning diesel.

well like anything else it will improve over time

[Crushaholic]

At least he's talking about it. He was in Topeka a few weeks ago discussing his plan. Unfortunately, I couldn't go. However, he's better than the average politician sound bite...

[Meck77]

I just don't believe there is one solution. So we switch every to CNG. Demand goes up and we'll be paying the equivalent of $4.00 per gallon to run our cars.

Take biodiesel for example. The bums making it around Denver use waste from restaurants and what not and charge the exact same price as regular diesel at the pump even though the grease they are getting hasn't gone up very much in the last few years.

What we need is various alternatives to challenge the price of oil.

[Garcia Bronco]

This guy should be our Energy Czar.

[Dudeskey]

Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

This guy should be our Energy Czar.

I think Spider should be our energy czar...™

[Spider]

Originally Posted by Dudeskey

I think Spider should be our energy czar...™

.today in Washington Energy Czar Spider from Wyoming punched Prince Abdulua from Saudi Arabia in the throat , after the Prince asked Energy Czar Spider to increase importing Oil ........ film at 11

[Spider]

Originally Posted by Meck77

I just don't believe there is one solution. So we switch every to CNG. Demand goes up and we'll be paying the equivalent of $4.00 per gallon to run our cars.

Take biodiesel for example. The bums making it around Denver use waste from restaurants and what not and charge the exact same price as regular diesel at the pump even though the grease they are getting hasn't gone up very much in the last few years.

What we need is various alternatives to challenge the price of oil.

i wouldnt see a problem with this

[Bronco Yoda]

Originally Posted by Spider

Sure is pushing the hell out of CNG gas ... even mentioned home refueling tapped into a Nat gas line .........

I saw that. Sounds like a plan to me. Who could argue with more options.

[Dudeskey]

Originally Posted by Spider

.today in Washington Energy Czar Spider from Wyoming punched Prince Abdulua from Saudi Arabia in the throat , after the Prince asked Energy Czar Spider to increase importing Oil ........ film at 11

I approve!™

[Drek]

Originally Posted by Meck77

I just don't believe there is one solution. So we switch every to CNG. Demand goes up and we'll be paying the equivalent of $4.00 per gallon to run our cars.

Take biodiesel for example. The bums making it around Denver use waste from restaurants and what not and charge the exact same price as regular diesel at the pump even though the grease they are getting hasn't gone up very much in the last few years.

What we need is various alternatives to challenge the price of oil.

But how do you divide the market like that?

McCain says just drill more and hope the free market leads to some kind of positive change.

Obama wants to overhaul our government to use 25% less energy and start using hybrid, CNG, etc. vehicles as much as possible.

They're the largest consumer of energy in the U.S. and that'd be a big reduction in consumption.

At the same time his energy policy calls for significant funding (not some $300M bounty) for three primary areas of need. 1. helping the American automotive industry catch up and surpass foreign auto manufacturers in terms of fuel efficiency and alternative power sources 2. reward companies who reduce energy consumption. 3. put funding into the renewables resources market so that it arrives much sooner.

[Garcia Bronco]

Originally Posted by Dudeskey

I think Spider should be our energy czar...™

He's got the people skillz