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watermock · 09-10-2008, 10:01 AM

JOHNSON LOOKING AT A HALF MILLION PRICE TAG TO BECOME “OCHO CINCO”?
Posted by Mike Florio on September 9, 2008, 2:15 p.m. EDT
There have been no concrete developments in the ongoing saga of Chad Ochocinco since the NFL stepped in on Sunday and prevented the receiver formerly known as Chad Johnson from wearing a jersey sporting his new legal surname.

The issue is the NFL’s contractual commitment to Reebok, and whether Johnson will pay the production costs for the unsold inventory of “C. Johnson” jerseys.

Geoff Hobson of Bengals.com suggests that, for a player of Johnson’s stature, the number will be in range of $500,000.

In 2007, Raiders receiver Jerry Porter was told that he couldn’t change his number from 84 to 81 without forking over $210,000 to cover the costs of unsold jerseys. Last week, rookie linebacker Keith Rivers bought the unsold inventory of jerseys with his prior number (58) so that he could change to his desired number, 55.

We’re still amazed by the fact that the NFL has allowed one of its partners to contractually foist these expenses onto the league and its players. Then again, since the ultimate bill is paid by the players, maybe the league didn’t really care.

One group about which no one seems to care are the folks who bought the jerseys that become worthless. Though Reebok got its money back for the Keith Rivers jerseys bearing a number that he’s no longer wearing, that kid in Georgetown who used his paper route money to buy a “Rivers 58″ is now screwed.

In Johnson’s case, the irony is that his offseason antics surely prompted sales of his jersey to drop, meaning that there are more of the unsold items in stock than there would have been if he’d not launched a relentless campaign to be traded.

So now the question is whether the notoriously cheap Chad Johnson will fork over the money necessary to become Chad Ocho Cinco.

Meanwhile, we doubt that the supply of jerseys bearing his former name will be shrinking.

broncofan2438 · 09-10-2008, 10:05 AM

stupid

cutthemdown · 09-10-2008, 10:13 AM

I can see Reebok point of view on this one. It is true though no one cares about the money fans wasted, only unsold merchandise.

tsiguy96 · 09-10-2008, 10:16 AM

3-1 says he does it.

worm · 09-10-2008, 10:19 AM

How about all the new ones they will sell because of the novelty?

A deal where Chad pays the difference between any spike they see in new jersey sales and the new old stock would seem to be an appropriate compromise.

sisterhellfyre · 09-10-2008, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by tsiguy96

3-1 says he does it.

C'mon, TSI, we have to make it an 8-to-5 bet. :-)

Regards,
m.

Hogan11 · 09-10-2008, 10:24 AM

The NFL must be run by a bunch of no fun, old ******s

tsiguy96 · 09-10-2008, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Hogan11

The NFL must be run by a bunch of no fun, old ******s

with all the crackdown on celebrations and everything, i totally agree. this game is supposed to be fun and entertaining, fining a player for having a celebration (like TO did this weekend) that wasnt even taunting the other team is total BS.

philiptr2 · 09-10-2008, 10:32 AM

That is stupid. When a team trades a player, do they have to pay Reebok for the unsold inventory before the NFL approves the trade?

Reebox, If you dont like dealing with the unsold inventory of NFL Jerseys, then get out of your contract with the NFL and let Under Armor or Nike step in. Quit crying...and start selling Ocho Cinco jerseys...I'm betting they'll be in hot demand.

Hogan11 · 09-10-2008, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by tsiguy96

with all the crackdown on celebrations and everything, i totally agree. this game is supposed to be fun and entertaining, fining a player for having a celebration (like TO did this weekend) that wasnt even taunting the other team is total BS.

Yeah, that's it.

skpac1001 · 09-10-2008, 10:35 AM

Especially stupid since Chad will change his name back after the novelty wears off. So Reebox gets the spike for the novelty jersey, then can sell the old jerseys when he switches back.

BroncoFiend · 09-10-2008, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by philiptr2

That is stupid. When a team trades a player, do they have to pay Reebok for the unsold inventory before the NFL approves the trade?

Reebox, If you dont like dealing with the unsold inventory of NFL Jerseys, then get out of your contract with the NFL and let Under Armor or Nike step in. Quit crying...and start selling Ocho Cinco jerseys...I'm betting they'll be in hot demand.

I have to agree here, I know Chad is a jerk, but this has nothing to do with Reebok.

Players have changed their last name before (religious reasons) and the NFL lets it fly. Players change their jerseys when another player comes in with the same last name (to include a first initial or first name)...that's fine too.

But here Chad is doing it for marketing purposes and to anger the commish, so they are hiding behind Reebok to block it.

crowebomber · 09-10-2008, 10:43 AM

This could all be solved with marketing. If they advertised those Johnson jerseys as "limited addition," and "never again to be re-printed" I guarantee they would sell almost as well as the new Ocho Cincos.

DarkHorse30 · 09-10-2008, 10:53 AM

Frank (Gene) Upshaw is responsible for this.

Tombstone RJ · 09-10-2008, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by tsiguy96

with all the crackdown on celebrations and everything, i totally agree. this game is supposed to be fun and entertaining, fining a player for having a celebration (like TO did this weekend) that wasnt even taunting the other team is total BS.

Just say no to flavor clowns.

Tombstone RJ · 09-10-2008, 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by philiptr2

That is stupid. When a team trades a player, do they have to pay Reebok for the unsold inventory before the NFL approves the trade?

Reebox, If you dont like dealing with the unsold inventory of NFL Jerseys, then get out of your contract with the NFL and let Under Armor or Nike step in. Quit crying...and start selling Ocho Cinco jerseys...I'm betting they'll be in hot demand.

The player has no control over being traded, hence, it's not his financial obligation to compensate Reebok. Remember, the players are compensated financially for their own jersey sales. So, if Ocho Dinko wants to increase his jersey sales by changing his name in order to reap the financial benefits, he also has to bear the financial burden of the unsold inventory for the old jerseys.

BroncoFiend · 09-10-2008, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

The player has no control over being traded, hence, it's not his financial obligation to compensate Reebok. Remember, the players are compensated financially for their own jersey sales. So, if Ocho Dinko wants to increase his jersey sales by changing his name in order to reap the financial benefits, he also has to bear the financial burden of the unsold inventory for the old jerseys.

True, but if Chad is right about increasing jersey sales...which I think he is...then Reebok and the NFL wil benefit just as much.

oubronco · 09-10-2008, 12:57 PM

**** Reecock

tsiguy96 · 09-10-2008, 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

Just say no to flavor clowns.

having fun and not being a ridiculous stiff=flavor clown.

cutthemdown · 09-10-2008, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BroncoFiend

I have to agree here, I know Chad is a jerk, but this has nothing to do with Reebok.

Players have changed their last name before (religious reasons) and the NFL lets it fly. Players change their jerseys when another player comes in with the same last name (to include a first initial or first name)...that's fine too.

But here Chad is doing it for marketing purposes and to anger the commish, so they are hiding behind Reebok to block it.

I also heard Devin Hester is still on a dback number even though by rule he should now have to pick a WR number. He plays more at WR then Dback.

Reebok though has a bunch of unis with his number on it so they don't want it changed.

BroncoFiend · 09-10-2008, 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tsiguy96

having fun and not being a ridiculous stiff=flavor clown.

I used to think that about Chad Johnson too, until the way he acted this offseason.

That wasn't about having fun or not being a stiff, he was just being a selfish jerk who handled what should have been an internal business matter through the media.

Irish Stout · 09-10-2008, 01:55 PM

I smell some sort of lawsuit here. My guess is it costs Reebok $5 to make a jersey, so theres 100,000 Chad Johnsons out there for sale. They're asking at least $65/jersey for all of them. I am curious what percentage a player takes on there jersey. I'm also curious to know what kind of contract they sign with the NFL regarding their name and number.

tsiguy96 · 09-10-2008, 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BroncoFiend

I used to think that about Chad Johnson too, until the way he acted this offseason.

That wasn't about having fun or not being a stiff, he was just being a selfish jerk who handled what should have been an internal business matter through the media.

im not talking about that, in fact no one is. im talking about end zone celebrations like TOs taht get called for taunting or excessive celebration or wahtever. let them have fun and entertain us, thats what they are there for.

BroncoFiend · 09-10-2008, 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tsiguy96

im not talking about that, in fact no one is. im talking about end zone celebrations like TOs taht get called for taunting or excessive celebration or wahtever. let them have fun and entertain us, thats what they are there for.

Agreed ... but I do think Chad is a flavor-clown/jerk. And not for his on-field antics I'm fine with those.

missingnumber7 · 09-10-2008, 02:47 PM

So reebok now has more say in a players number than a player. Nice.

09-10-2008, 10:01 AM	#1
watermock "Hoodie Jr" "Hug me!" Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Hot Springs, Ouachitah Posts: 77,090	Ocho Cinco Mucho Stiffo JOHNSON LOOKING AT A HALF MILLION PRICE TAG TO BECOME “OCHO CINCO”? Posted by Mike Florio on September 9, 2008, 2:15 p.m. EDT There have been no concrete developments in the ongoing saga of Chad Ochocinco since the NFL stepped in on Sunday and prevented the receiver formerly known as Chad Johnson from wearing a jersey sporting his new legal surname. The issue is the NFL’s contractual commitment to Reebok, and whether Johnson will pay the production costs for the unsold inventory of “C. Johnson” jerseys. Geoff Hobson of Bengals.com suggests that, for a player of Johnson’s stature, the number will be in range of $500,000. In 2007, Raiders receiver Jerry Porter was told that he couldn’t change his number from 84 to 81 without forking over $210,000 to cover the costs of unsold jerseys. Last week, rookie linebacker Keith Rivers bought the unsold inventory of jerseys with his prior number (58) so that he could change to his desired number, 55. We’re still amazed by the fact that the NFL has allowed one of its partners to contractually foist these expenses onto the league and its players. Then again, since the ultimate bill is paid by the players, maybe the league didn’t really care. One group about which no one seems to care are the folks who bought the jerseys that become worthless. Though Reebok got its money back for the Keith Rivers jerseys bearing a number that he’s no longer wearing, that kid in Georgetown who used his paper route money to buy a “Rivers 58″ is now screwed. In Johnson’s case, the irony is that his offseason antics surely prompted sales of his jersey to drop, meaning that there are more of the unsold items in stock than there would have been if he’d not launched a relentless campaign to be traded. So now the question is whether the notoriously cheap Chad Johnson will fork over the money necessary to become Chad Ocho Cinco. Meanwhile, we doubt that the supply of jerseys bearing his former name will be shrinking.

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09-10-2008, 10:05 AM	#2
broncofan2438 Faneco this... LETS TAKE BACK THE AFC WEST Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: California Posts: 6,302 Adopt-a-Bronco: ERIC DECKER	stupid

09-10-2008, 10:13 AM	#3
cutthemdown A verbis ad verbera Zimm to HOF Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Long Beach Posts: 32,531	I can see Reebok point of view on this one. It is true though no one cares about the money fans wasted, only unsold merchandise.

09-10-2008, 10:16 AM	#4
tsiguy96 Ring of Famer New to the Forum Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 12,559 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	3-1 says he does it.

09-10-2008, 10:19 AM	#5
worm Great moments are born... ...from great opportunity Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 3,947 Adopt-a-Bronco: #20	How about all the new ones they will sell because of the novelty? A deal where Chad pays the difference between any spike they see in new jersey sales and the new old stock would seem to be an appropriate compromise.

09-10-2008, 10:24 AM	#7
Hogan11 Rock-N-Roll Historian Let's take these SOB's out!!!!!! Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: W.NY.B.C. Posts: 21,300 Adopt-a-Bronco: Floyd Little	The NFL must be run by a bunch of no fun, old ******s

09-10-2008, 10:32 AM	#9
philiptr2 Gunslinger DRAW!! Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Highlands Ranch Posts: 297 Adopt-a-Bronco: Jack Williams	That is stupid. When a team trades a player, do they have to pay Reebok for the unsold inventory before the NFL approves the trade? Reebox, If you dont like dealing with the unsold inventory of NFL Jerseys, then get out of your contract with the NFL and let Under Armor or Nike step in. Quit crying...and start selling Ocho Cinco jerseys...I'm betting they'll be in hot demand.

09-10-2008, 10:35 AM	#11
skpac1001 Ring of Famer I brings the ruckus Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Temecula, Ca Posts: 1,129 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	Especially stupid since Chad will change his name back after the novelty wears off. So Reebox gets the spike for the novelty jersey, then can sell the old jerseys when he switches back.

09-10-2008, 10:43 AM	#13
crowebomber Ring of Famer Old School Sucka Fool Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: P-Town Posts: 1,517 Adopt-a-Bronco: Frank Tripucka	This could all be solved with marketing. If they advertised those Johnson jerseys as "limited addition," and "never again to be re-printed" I guarantee they would sell almost as well as the new Ocho Cincos.

09-10-2008, 10:53 AM	#14
DarkHorse30 Smith Rules Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 2,091 Adopt-a-Bronco: wolf pot roast	Frank (Gene) Upshaw is responsible for this.

09-10-2008, 12:57 PM	#18
oubronco John Foneco !! Mile High Magic Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Sooner Country Posts: 20,604	**** Reecock

09-10-2008, 01:55 PM	#22
Irish Stout Ring of Famer Run for it Marty! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,805 Adopt-a-Bronco: Wesley Woodyard	I smell some sort of lawsuit here. My guess is it costs Reebok $5 to make a jersey, so theres 100,000 Chad Johnsons out there for sale. They're asking at least $65/jersey for all of them. I am curious what percentage a player takes on there jersey. I'm also curious to know what kind of contract they sign with the NFL regarding their name and number.

09-10-2008, 02:47 PM	#25
missingnumber7 Vote Joe Mays to Pro Bowl Joe 4 Pro Bowl ST's Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Bismarck Posts: 4,760 Adopt-a-Bronco: Joe Mays	So reebok now has more say in a players number than a player. Nice.