Dre Bly - The Orange Mane

MO<1> · 09-08-2008, 08:26 AM

Pro-Bowler, Bust, or journeyman. Bly has 38 career interceptions, two pro bowls, and a Super Bowl ring. Champ has 42 career interceptions, 3 pro bowls. Are Bronco fans too hard or too soft on Dre Bly?

Borks147 · 09-08-2008, 08:28 AM

our best option as the 2nd corner and good compliment to Champ

enough said

yay 1000 posts.

montrose · 09-08-2008, 08:29 AM

The most underrated player on the team, by a substantial amount.

SleepingTiger · 09-08-2008, 08:30 AM

you would think Champ has more than 3 pro bowls

montrose · 09-08-2008, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by SleepingTiger

you would think Champ has more than 3 pro bowls

Champ's been to 8 straight Pro Bowls.

Irish Stout · 09-08-2008, 08:34 AM

CB is a position of risk and reward, when you try and make a read and make a play on the ball you may get burned. This has happened to both Champ and Dre. CB is also a tough position because the advantage is very cleary the receivers. So you can't always be mad when a CB doesn't make an int. or stop the catch, as long as they can make the tackle once the catch is made.

I think that this year will be a very telling year for just what kind of corner Dre is. He didn't look too hot in the preseason often playing 10 yards off the WR and getting burned more than once. I hope that this isn't indicative of the regular season, but we'll see.

Kaylore · 09-08-2008, 08:40 AM

Champ has more than three pro-bowls. Try three All-pro starts.

Play2win · 09-08-2008, 08:40 AM

If our Dline holds up and we take on an attack mode with our entire D, he COULD really shine this year...

I am alway optimistic... especially this time of the year...

Schism · 09-08-2008, 08:43 AM

We really just need to blitz the living piss out of teams all year long and put the fate of the defense in the hands of Champ and Dre. They're being paid to win games for us, make them earn their checks.

Dre's run support is lousy but as a pure cover guy he's in the top 10 in the league. He'll make mistakes and get burned, but he'll also create turnovers if we get pressure and force throws to his side.

SoDak Bronco · 09-08-2008, 09:12 AM

dre is a good player..he struggles with tackling..diving at their feet. He's above average for sure.

Rock Chalk · 09-08-2008, 09:14 AM

Overrated.

Not a bad #2 Corner but isnt complete, takes too many chances, bites hard on double moves and can be exploited on a regular basis.

bronco militia · 09-08-2008, 09:15 AM

Bly is a little bit better than Deltha O'neal, D.Will, or Foxworth....that's about it

TheReverend · 09-08-2008, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by SleepingTiger

you would think Champ has more than 3 pro bowls

Full name SleepingTigerHiddenDip****?

alkemical · 09-08-2008, 09:22 AM

I think bly would play well in a zone scheme (cover2) - he'll get beat on the short stuff - and since tackling isn't his forte - he could be a liability - however - i think his knack for the big interception is also key too. But his cover skills are good - but i think he gets faked out a bit too much.

He's not bad - he's def. above avg and is a great #2.

TheReverend · 09-08-2008, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by amesj523

I think bly would play well in a zone scheme (cover2) - he'll get beat on the short stuff - and since tackling isn't his forte - he could be a liability - however - i think his knack for the big interception is also key too. But his cover skills are good - but i think he gets faked out a bit too much.

He's not bad - he's def. above avg and is a great #2.

Cover 2 is more a safety designation, but a true base cover 2 keeps the corners up in the flats, requiring physical corners that can jam and funnel receivers and make the tackle like a slightly smaller OLB. That was what he played he last season in Detroit and the reason we got him on the cheap.

Old Dude · 09-08-2008, 09:28 AM

Hard to say based on last year. The defensive front was swiss cheese against the run and opposing WRs had all afternoon to run their routes. If Denver can at least slow down the run this year, Bly should be a lot more effective in coverage.

alkemical · 09-08-2008, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by TheReverend

Cover 2 is more a safety designation, but a true base cover 2 keeps the corners up in the flats, requiring physical corners that can jam and funnel receivers and make the tackle like a slightly smaller OLB. That was what he played he last season in Detroit and the reason we got him on the cheap.

Right i got that on the cover2 - but i guess i mean him playing routes that he can time and jump on. Maybe i should have written it that way.

I just don't find him to be a "great" corner but - i know he has a sense of how to play the ball in the air.

bronco militia · 09-08-2008, 09:47 AM

cover 2 is perfect for athletetic corners that don't have to worry about a lot of contact. Traditionally Cover 2 corners line up 7 yards off the LOS and 2 yards outside the WR's outside shoudler. There is no jamming of the WR's in cover 2

GoHAM · 09-08-2008, 10:00 AM

I voted for journeyman, but imo the truth is he is an above average #2, but he is not a Pro Bowl level corner.

Although, I will be happy to have him prove otherwise this season.

TheReverend · 09-08-2008, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by bronco militia

cover 2 is perfect for athletetic corners that don't have to worry about a lot of contact. Traditionally Cover 2 corners line up 7 yards off the LOS and 2 yards outside the WR's outside shoudler. There is no jamming of the WR's in cover 2

Where the hell did you get that load of bull**** from?

epicSocialism4tw · 09-08-2008, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by montrose

The most underrated player on the team, by a substantial amount.

Agreed.

He's a very good corner.

SleepingTiger · 09-08-2008, 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheReverend

Full name SleepingTigerHiddenDip****?

That was uncalled for. if you don't like what i said, put me on ignore. I'm not on mane to have a pissing contest or a flame war with other Broncos fans.

TheReverend · 09-08-2008, 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleepingTiger

That was uncalled for. if you don't like what i said, put me on ignore. I'm not on mane to have a pissing contest or a flame war with other Broncos fans.

Oops. From your post I guessed you were a chief fan. My apologies.

broncofan2438 · 09-08-2008, 10:32 AM

I like Bly, I think he can produce well for us this year. He and Bailey had way high expectaions last year and I think this year might be a little different

LonghornBronco · 09-08-2008, 10:35 AM

I thought we should have made Champ a safety and put foxy and bly on the corners. Why not put your best player in a spot where he can affect the play regardless if it's to the left or the right? I'm not a defensive x and o guy but I've seen this work in highschool.

View Poll Results: Dre Bly
Pro Bowler	33	47.14%
Journeyman	35	50.00%
Bust	2	2.86%
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09-08-2008, 08:28 AM	#2
Borks147 the dude abides... Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hanover NH Posts: 1,845	our best option as the 2nd corner and good compliment to Champ enough said yay 1000 posts.

09-08-2008, 08:29 AM	#3
montrose Ring of Famer Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 6,095 Adopt-a-Bronco: VP John Elway	The most underrated player on the team, by a substantial amount.

09-08-2008, 08:30 AM	#4
SleepingTiger Ring of Famer Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Murphy TX Posts: 1,161	you would think Champ has more than 3 pro bowls

09-08-2008, 08:34 AM	#6
Irish Stout Ring of Famer Run for it Marty! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,802 Adopt-a-Bronco: Wesley Woodyard	CB is a position of risk and reward, when you try and make a read and make a play on the ball you may get burned. This has happened to both Champ and Dre. CB is also a tough position because the advantage is very cleary the receivers. So you can't always be mad when a CB doesn't make an int. or stop the catch, as long as they can make the tackle once the catch is made. I think that this year will be a very telling year for just what kind of corner Dre is. He didn't look too hot in the preseason often playing 10 yards off the WR and getting burned more than once. I hope that this isn't indicative of the regular season, but we'll see.

09-08-2008, 08:40 AM	#7
Kaylore 6-37, Raider fans. Yummy birds and snow! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Ceti Alpha V Posts: 41,004 Adopt-a-Bronco: Wesley Duke	Champ has more than three pro-bowls. Try three All-pro starts.

09-08-2008, 08:40 AM	#8
Play2win Ring of Famer Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 9,610 Adopt-a-Bronco: The Duke	If our Dline holds up and we take on an attack mode with our entire D, he COULD really shine this year... I am alway optimistic... especially this time of the year...

09-08-2008, 08:43 AM	#9
Schism Ring of Famer New to the Forum Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 2,920 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	We really just need to blitz the living piss out of teams all year long and put the fate of the defense in the hands of Champ and Dre. They're being paid to win games for us, make them earn their checks. Dre's run support is lousy but as a pure cover guy he's in the top 10 in the league. He'll make mistakes and get burned, but he'll also create turnovers if we get pressure and force throws to his side.

09-08-2008, 09:12 AM	#10
SoDak Bronco Lace em' up and lets go!! Von Miller aka QB Killa Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: South Dakota Posts: 4,132 Adopt-a-Bronco: Robert Ayers	dre is a good player..he struggles with tackling..diving at their feet. He's above average for sure.

09-08-2008, 09:14 AM	#11
Rock Chalk Cheeky Bastards Laus Deo Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: The Backside of the Internet Posts: 29,940 Adopt-a-Bronco: Chris Harris	Overrated. Not a bad #2 Corner but isnt complete, takes too many chances, bites hard on double moves and can be exploited on a regular basis.

09-08-2008, 09:15 AM	#12
bronco militia Ring of Famer THE GREATEST Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: colorado springs, co Posts: 22,567	Bly is a little bit better than Deltha O'neal, D.Will, or Foxworth....that's about it

09-08-2008, 09:22 AM	#14
alkemical Guerrilla Ontologist rorrim\|mirror Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Future Posts: 42,691 Adopt-a-Bronco: Prima Materia	I think bly would play well in a zone scheme (cover2) - he'll get beat on the short stuff - and since tackling isn't his forte - he could be a liability - however - i think his knack for the big interception is also key too. But his cover skills are good - but i think he gets faked out a bit too much. He's not bad - he's def. above avg and is a great #2.

09-08-2008, 09:28 AM	#16
Old Dude Host Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: As if I'd tell you crazies! Posts: 14,146	Hard to say based on last year. The defensive front was swiss cheese against the run and opposing WRs had all afternoon to run their routes. If Denver can at least slow down the run this year, Bly should be a lot more effective in coverage.

09-08-2008, 09:47 AM	#18
bronco militia Ring of Famer THE GREATEST Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: colorado springs, co Posts: 22,567	cover 2 is perfect for athletetic corners that don't have to worry about a lot of contact. Traditionally Cover 2 corners line up 7 yards off the LOS and 2 yards outside the WR's outside shoudler. There is no jamming of the WR's in cover 2

09-08-2008, 10:00 AM	#19
GoHAM Ring of Famer The Defense is Back! Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: County 5 Posts: 1,177 Adopt-a-Bronco: Mitch Unrein	I voted for journeyman, but imo the truth is he is an above average #2, but he is not a Pro Bowl level corner. Although, I will be happy to have him prove otherwise this season.

09-08-2008, 10:32 AM	#24
broncofan2438 Faneco this... LETS TAKE BACK THE AFC WEST Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: California Posts: 6,302 Adopt-a-Bronco: ERIC DECKER	I like Bly, I think he can produce well for us this year. He and Bailey had way high expectaions last year and I think this year might be a little different

09-08-2008, 10:35 AM	#25
LonghornBronco Ring of Famer Hook'em Horns Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Austin Posts: 1,356 Adopt-a-Bronco: Rahim Moore	I thought we should have made Champ a safety and put foxy and bly on the corners. Why not put your best player in a spot where he can affect the play regardless if it's to the left or the right? I'm not a defensive x and o guy but I've seen this work in highschool.