"I Won't Be Buried Under Their Damn Flag"

[frerottenextelway]

Wow....

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpoi...d_hatred_f.php

Founder Of Group Palin Courted Professed "Hatred For The American Government"; Cursed "Damn Flag"
By Greg Sargent - September 2, 2008, 6:10PM

The founder of the Alaska Independence Party -- a group that has been courted over the years by Sarah Palin, and one her husband was a member of for roughly seven years -- once professed his "hatred for the American government" and cursed the American flag as a "damn flag."

The AIP founder, Joe Vogler, made the comments in 1991, in an interview that's now housed at the Oral History Program in the Rasmuson Library at the University of Alaska, Fairbanks.

"The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government," Vogler said in the interview, in which he talked extensively about his desire for Alaskan secession, the key goal of the AIP.

"And I won't be buried under their damn flag," Vogler continued in the interview, which also touched on his disappointment with the American judicial system. "I'll be buried in Dawson. And when Alaska is an independent nation they can bring my bones home."

At another point, Volger advocated renouncing allegiance to the United States. In the course of denouncing Federal regulation over land, he said:

"And then you get mad. And you say, the hell with them. And you renounce allegiance, and you pledge your efforts, your effects, your honor, your life to Alaska."

You can listen to audio of the relevant section of the Volger interview here. Bill Schneider, curator of oral history at the library, verified the authenticity of the interview and the quote to me a few moments ago.

Palin has courted the group over the years.

Three years after the controversial interview, in 1994, Palin attended the group's annual convention, according to witnesses who spoke to ABC News' Jake Tapper. The McCain campaign is disputing her presence there, but Tapper found two people to attest to it.


The McCain campaign today produced Palin's voting registration records, and said they proved she was never a member of the party.

But she has repeatedly reached out to the group. The McCain campaign has confirmed she visited the group's 2000 convention, and she addressed its convention this year, as an incumbent governor whose oath of office includes upholding the Constitution of the United States.

Palin's husband, Todd Palin, was a member of the party from 1995-2002 with a brief exception in 2000.

It's worth noting that Vogler isn't just some figure from ancient history. He is still being hailed on AIP's site this year, the same year Palin addressed the group's convention.

It's worth pondering how big a deal it would be if Obama had ever courted the support of a group whose head had said this kind of thing about America and her flag. Oh, wait...

[spdirty]

figure this would be a plus to you liberals...meanwhile...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8M-kD0QdRJk

you will be seeing a lot of that in October. Then bltch about Obama getting swiftboated.

[Bronco Yoda]

Sounds like Michelle Obama and him would make a fine pair...

[peacepipe]

Originally Posted by spdirty

figure this would be a plus to you liberals...meanwhile...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8M-kD0QdRJk

Old news,but that doesn't take away from thr fact that McCain lacks judgement & did nothing to vet Palin. As an Obama supporter this only helps Obama get elected.

[frerottenextelway]

Originally Posted by spdirty

figure this would be a plus to you liberals...meanwhile...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8M-kD0QdRJk

The article too long for you to make it to the last paragraph?

That's another thing to kiss by for McCain's camp - the experience, celebrity, and Wright cards are off the table thanks to McCain flying by the seat of his pants and plucking his running-mate from the Jerry Springer show.

Oh, and she has here own lunatic pastor.

[defenseman]

Originally Posted by spdirty

figure this would be a plus to you liberals...meanwhile...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8M-kD0QdRJk

you will be seeing a lot of that in October. Then bltch about Obama getting swiftboated.

truth...dman

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Originally Posted by frerottenextelway

Wow....

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpoi...d_hatred_f.php

She's out there, alright.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Originally Posted by spdirty

you will be seeing a lot of that in October. Then bltch about Obama getting swiftboated.

"Swift boated" implies charges that are untrue.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Originally Posted by Bronco Yoda

Sounds like Michelle Obama and him would make a fine pair...

Damn - I've seen some righties grasping at straws lately, but that's just embarrassing.

[Bronco Yoda]

.... You know I'm an Independent. I call it like I see it regardless of red or blue.