If the Broncos start the season 0-2.... - The Orange Mane

crazyhorse · 08-06-2008, 10:07 PM

or 0-3, the season will be tough to salvage. If that happens, will you hold Marshall responsible?

Last season I remember having the same thoughts with Jared Allen and his suspension. I thought he could single handedly put the Chiefs in a situation where it would be almost impossible to recover.

As it was however, they didn't stand a chance either way.

What is the general thought of the Bronco fans and the effect of starting 0-3? Is the season pretty much over at that point?

Doggcow · 08-06-2008, 10:08 PM

No it wont. We'll win 10 games this season, even if you scratch the first two.

KC - 2 Wins
Oakland - 1 Win (if we lose the first)
Miami - Win
NYJ - Win
Buffalo - Win on Firedrill kick again
NE - Win
Atlanta - Win
Carolina - Win
TB - Win

Thats saying we lose all the hard ones like SD and NO too. I think we'll beat NO, and possibly steal one from SD.

rugbythug · 08-06-2008, 10:10 PM

The Chuggers won't know what hit them.

broncosteven · 08-06-2008, 10:13 PM

I would like to say it is a team game but it depends on how they lose.

If they have a game like last year Chuggers game (pick one) and last years Detroit game then he won't be missed.

RonDaChamp24 · 08-06-2008, 10:16 PM

I won't blame Marshall for the losses, although one can't help but wonder if maybe the games would be different if we have him. It's a little too early to tell I guess. We'll have to wait and see.

Binkythefrog · 08-06-2008, 10:25 PM

I wouldn't hold Marshall responsible.

I think that our offense will still be relatively dynamic, with a decent running game and royal, stokley, jackson and scheff doing enough to keep the passing game respectable but not remarkable.

If the Broncs go 0-2 I'll be looking at defense with all the changes that the broncs have had.. esp up front.

crazyhorse · 08-06-2008, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Binkythefrog

I wouldn't hold Marshall responsible.

I think that our offense will still be relatively dynamic, with a decent running game and royal, stokley, jackson and scheff doing enough to keep the passing game respectable but not remarkable.

If the Broncs go 0-2 I'll be looking at defense with all the changes that the broncs have had.. esp up front.

Haven't the Broncos also had a lot of changes up front on the O?

jsco70 · 08-06-2008, 10:38 PM

No, I would not hold Marshall responsible.

To me, starting the season 0-3 would be a difficult to overcome but not impossible. However, the pressure would become more intense than it already is. Shanahan has set the bar...playoffs or bust.

It would be interesting to see which players would begin to wilt under the strain, especially with the loss of team leaderhip the past two years. I can easily envision Shanahan stalking the sidelines ready to explode.

On the flip side, I think Cutler, Scheffler, Marshall and the rest of the core are strong enough to handle adversity. Cutler is overcoming his disease, Scheffler has fought through injury, while Marshall put up all-pro numbers while dealing with his own personal demons. I think they will all be stronger for it.

no-pseudo-fan · 08-06-2008, 10:39 PM

Chargers are usually slow starters and we are fast, so I think that we might get both. If we get both wins, without B-Marsh, I think we might be going on a magical ride.

Kaylore · 08-06-2008, 10:50 PM

I hate talking hypotheticals. The season over at three games is a joke. The Giants started the season 1-2 so that shows what a stupid idea that starting slow can ruin your season is. If we are a bad enough team to allow one player out of the lineup that isn't the QB to ruin our season, then we weren't going to do anything in the post season anyway.

Broncojef · 08-06-2008, 11:00 PM

I just don't see this as a breakout year for the Broncos. No I won't hold Marshall responsible. I still think he caused his issues and his year this year will be subpar due to his lack of focus...but in the end he's just a kid and I don't think its fair to dump the offense working or failing on him. I do expect Cutler to start living up to his hype and have a much better season this year, both with the diabetes under control and him knowing the routine much better. I still see this as a 7-9; 8-8 team...maybe they win 9 games and I eat crow with rugbythug and my bet with him. We still have a couple years where we need to address some major holes and I can't lay that on Brandon.

crazyhorse · 08-06-2008, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaylore

I hate talking hypotheticals. The season over at three games is a joke. The Giants started the season 1-2 so that shows what a stupid idea that starting slow can ruin your season is. If we are a bad enough team to allow one player out of the lineup that isn't the QB to ruin our season, then we weren't going to do anything in the post season anyway.

Now wait a second.

No one said the season would definately be over. However, the Giants are more the exception than the rule. I think you will find that more teams starting 0-3 fail than teams that start 1-2. If you're saying it's just as easy to have a successful season starting at 0-3 as a team that starts 2-1, I would disagree with you.

Anyway, the question was more about Marshalls effect on the team and being held responsible. Not whether the Broncos chances of recovering were possible. Of course it's possible. But very difficult.

PaintballCLE · 08-06-2008, 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazyhorse

or 0-3, the season will be tough to salvage. If that happens, will you hold Marshall responsible?

Last season I remember having the same thoughts with Jared Allen and his suspension. I thought he could single handedly put the Chiefs in a situation where it would be almost impossible to recover.

As it was however, they didn't stand a chance either way.

What is the general thought of the Bronco fans and the effect of starting 0-3? Is the season pretty much over at that point?

i dont care if the broncos go 0-16..........at least we have comfort in knowing we aren't the chiefs or raiders

bronco militia · 08-06-2008, 11:07 PM

if the broncos go 0-2 then that means the defense still sucks ass

CBF1 · 08-06-2008, 11:13 PM

This message is hidden because crazyhorse is on your ignore list.

If they do start the season 0-2, their record will still be better than the squaw's record last season.

Sassy · 08-06-2008, 11:18 PM

Hogan and I are undefeated when attending Home games

(We'll be there in Week 3

)

bronco militia · 08-06-2008, 11:21 PM

my wife is undefeated in home games...14-0 since 1994

she'll be there for week 2

TheChamp24 · 08-06-2008, 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doggcow

No it wont. We'll win 10 games this season, even if you scratch the first two.

KC - 2 Wins
Oakland - 1 Win (if we lose the first)
Miami - Win
NYJ - Win
Buffalo - Win on Firedrill kick again
NE - Win
Atlanta - Win
Carolina - Win
TB - Win

Thats saying we lose all the hard ones like SD and NO too. I think we'll beat NO, and possibly steal one from SD.

Man, I'd love to have your optimism. I sure as hell would like to know how we defeat New England. I mean, are you banking on Brady, Welker, Moss and Seymour all to be injured for that game?

PaintballCLE · 08-06-2008, 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jth1331

Man, I'd love to have your optimism. I sure as hell would like to know how we defeat New England. I mean, are you banking on Brady, Welker, Moss and Seymour all to be injured for that game?

seriously we do match up well against NE........it seems like no matter how good they are....we always beat them.........except for that one game where we were up like 20 pts at halftime and lost.........but still it seems like they have to get lucky to beat us.

PaintballCLE · 08-06-2008, 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sassy

Hogan and I are undefeated when attending Home games

(We'll be there in Week 3

)

they are undefeated at home when i ahve been there as well.....so with both of us there, it should be a sure thing........ill brb gotta go call my bookie and double up that bet

Popps · 08-06-2008, 11:46 PM

The real story is that we're going to win or lose the first three games with our defense. We've got enough weapons to stay competitive on offenses in those games. Our defense (or lack thereof) has been... and will be the key.

That said, Marshall still ****ed his teammates and fans with his stupidity.

worm · 08-06-2008, 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bronco militia

my wife is undefeated in home games...14-0 since 1994

she'll be there for week 2

If you would quit scalping your tickets to rival fans ya greedy bastid...and took your wife instead....we would have more Lombardi trophies right now.

broncofan2438 · 08-07-2008, 12:02 AM

Won't happen

BroncoMan4ever · 08-07-2008, 02:00 AM

the only way i would hold him responsible would be if the team lost games he was suspended for by less than a TD, because i feel he can be an almost a TD a game player in this league

Taco John · 08-07-2008, 02:05 AM

What a stupid thread. Why would anyone waste any amount of time discussing how they would react to an 0-2 or an 0-3 start?

08-06-2008, 10:07 PM	#1
crazyhorse All Motor!! You can only hope to contain me Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,338	If the Broncos start the season 0-2.... or 0-3, the season will be tough to salvage. If that happens, will you hold Marshall responsible? Last season I remember having the same thoughts with Jared Allen and his suspension. I thought he could single handedly put the Chiefs in a situation where it would be almost impossible to recover. As it was however, they didn't stand a chance either way. What is the general thought of the Bronco fans and the effect of starting 0-3? Is the season pretty much over at that point?

08-06-2008, 10:08 PM	#2
Doggcow Rebel Laughs At Unbelievers Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 8,340 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	No it wont. We'll win 10 games this season, even if you scratch the first two. KC - 2 Wins Oakland - 1 Win (if we lose the first) Miami - Win NYJ - Win Buffalo - Win on Firedrill kick again NE - Win Atlanta - Win Carolina - Win TB - Win Thats saying we lose all the hard ones like SD and NO too. I think we'll beat NO, and possibly steal one from SD. Last edited by Doggcow; 08-06-2008 at 10:12 PM..

08-06-2008, 10:50 PM	#10
Kaylore 6-37, Raider fans. Yummy birds and snow! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Ceti Alpha V Posts: 41,322 Adopt-a-Bronco: Wesley Duke	I hate talking hypotheticals. The season over at three games is a joke. The Giants started the season 1-2 so that shows what a stupid idea that starting slow can ruin your season is. If we are a bad enough team to allow one player out of the lineup that isn't the QB to ruin our season, then we weren't going to do anything in the post season anyway. Last edited by Kaylore; 08-06-2008 at 10:52 PM..

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bronco militia Ring of Famer THE GREATEST Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: colorado springs, co Posts: 22,704	my wife is undefeated in home games...14-0 since 1994 she'll be there for week 2 Last edited by bronco militia; 08-06-2008 at 11:26 PM..

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08-06-2008, 10:10 PM	#3
rugbythug Church Eyes. Salty Dog Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 3,822 Adopt-a-Bronco: Mr. Miller	The Chuggers won't know what hit them.

08-06-2008, 10:13 PM	#4
broncosteven The Kranz Dictum MWA: Flight Director Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Tranquility Base Posts: 29,314 Adopt-a-Bronco: MONEYBALL #38	I would like to say it is a team game but it depends on how they lose. If they have a game like last year Chuggers game (pick one) and last years Detroit game then he won't be missed.

08-06-2008, 10:16 PM	#5
RonDaChamp24 Twitter.com/RonGreco The Champ is here Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Broken Arrow, Oklahoma Posts: 331 Adopt-a-Bronco: D. Thomas	I won't blame Marshall for the losses, although one can't help but wonder if maybe the games would be different if we have him. It's a little too early to tell I guess. We'll have to wait and see.

08-06-2008, 10:25 PM	#6
Binkythefrog Seasoned Veteran Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 312	I wouldn't hold Marshall responsible. I think that our offense will still be relatively dynamic, with a decent running game and royal, stokley, jackson and scheff doing enough to keep the passing game respectable but not remarkable. If the Broncs go 0-2 I'll be looking at defense with all the changes that the broncs have had.. esp up front.

08-06-2008, 10:38 PM	#8
jsco70 Seasoned Veteran Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 488	No, I would not hold Marshall responsible. To me, starting the season 0-3 would be a difficult to overcome but not impossible. However, the pressure would become more intense than it already is. Shanahan has set the bar...playoffs or bust. It would be interesting to see which players would begin to wilt under the strain, especially with the loss of team leaderhip the past two years. I can easily envision Shanahan stalking the sidelines ready to explode. On the flip side, I think Cutler, Scheffler, Marshall and the rest of the core are strong enough to handle adversity. Cutler is overcoming his disease, Scheffler has fought through injury, while Marshall put up all-pro numbers while dealing with his own personal demons. I think they will all be stronger for it.

08-06-2008, 10:39 PM	#9
no-pseudo-fan True Orange & Blue Follow me... Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: EPT Posts: 2,136 Adopt-a-Bronco: Hidalgo	Chargers are usually slow starters and we are fast, so I think that we might get both. If we get both wins, without B-Marsh, I think we might be going on a magical ride.

08-06-2008, 11:00 PM	#11
Broncojef Ring of Famer Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Great White North Posts: 3,023	I just don't see this as a breakout year for the Broncos. No I won't hold Marshall responsible. I still think he caused his issues and his year this year will be subpar due to his lack of focus...but in the end he's just a kid and I don't think its fair to dump the offense working or failing on him. I do expect Cutler to start living up to his hype and have a much better season this year, both with the diabetes under control and him knowing the routine much better. I still see this as a 7-9; 8-8 team...maybe they win 9 games and I eat crow with rugbythug and my bet with him. We still have a couple years where we need to address some major holes and I can't lay that on Brandon.

08-06-2008, 11:07 PM	#14
bronco militia Ring of Famer THE GREATEST Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: colorado springs, co Posts: 22,704	if the broncos go 0-2 then that means the defense still sucks ass

08-06-2008, 11:13 PM	#15
CBF1 Ring of Famer No avatar is the new avatar Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: SoCal Posts: 14,943 Adopt-a-Bronco: Jack Del rio	This message is hidden because crazyhorse is on your ignore list. If they do start the season 0-2, their record will still be better than the squaw's record last season.

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Sassy Ring of Famer Join Date: May 2001 Location: ND Posts: 37,952 Adopt-a-Bronco: Eddie Royal	Hogan and I are undefeated when attending Home games (We'll be there in Week 3 )

08-06-2008, 11:46 PM	#21
Popps TEAM FIRST. Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 29,792	The real story is that we're going to win or lose the first three games with our defense. We've got enough weapons to stay competitive on offenses in those games. Our defense (or lack thereof) has been... and will be the key. That said, Marshall still ****ed his teammates and fans with his stupidity.

08-07-2008, 12:02 AM	#23
broncofan2438 Faneco this... LETS TAKE BACK THE AFC WEST Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: California Posts: 6,302 Adopt-a-Bronco: ERIC DECKER	Won't happen

08-07-2008, 02:00 AM	#24
BroncoMan4ever Ring of Famer Here to chew bubblegum and kick ass Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Denver Posts: 11,668 Adopt-a-Bronco: VIRGIL GREEN!!!	the only way i would hold him responsible would be if the team lost games he was suspended for by less than a TD, because i feel he can be an almost a TD a game player in this league

08-07-2008, 02:05 AM	#25
Taco John 24/7 Broncos In Elway I Trust Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 49,742 Adopt-a-Bronco: Peyton Manning	What a stupid thread. Why would anyone waste any amount of time discussing how they would react to an 0-2 or an 0-3 start?