**New depth chart - 8/4**

[Kaylore]

http://www.denverbroncos.com/page.php?id=134

[Kaylore]

It's interesting that Scheffler is the second after taking a majority of snaps on the second and third team. We all knew he was better than Jackson, but for some reason Jackson was taking reps with the ones.

Kern looks he's out. It's a shame because I think he's going to be a great punter, but the team is more satisfied with the veterans.

Webster is going to start the season at Mike.

I think Polumbus makes the team.

Does anyone else think it's hilarious that Parker isn't even on the depth chart at all?

[bronco militia]

webster in front of Koutouvides is disappointing

[TheReverend]

"But... But... But... Niko's GREEK! WTF HAPPENED?!?!?"

[Tombstone RJ]

Doesn't look like Alridge makes the 53...

[Kaylore]

Robertson and Thomas at DT looks right. It's a shame that Moss hasn't cracked the starting lineup, but I think once the lights come on he's going to really make some waves. Mallard is the backup long snapper, that might help him stick.

FYI Shanahan puts a lot of weight on his running back and safety rankings on their performance in preseason games.

[montrose]

Actually very accurate compared to past years. Here's a few things I noticed:

QB - Ramsey still #2 despite being outplayed
FB - Hillis ahead of Pittman
TE - Scheffler ahead of Jackson despite practice being to the contrary
DE - Ekuban listed #2 despite working almost exclusively at DT, while Crowder is listed #3 despite working with the #2's and #1's
DT - Thomas ahead of Peterson despite the reverse taking place thus far in camp; Mallard on the 3rd team despite working with the #2's and #1's
MLB - Nate with the early lead over Niko
CB - Paymah still head of JMFW
S - Rogers ahead of Barrett
P - Paulescu winning, but Kern is still the #1 H?
KR - Royal with the early lead over Hall

[theAPAOps5]

Totally missed this sorry for the other thread. I kept getting missing server pages.

[Kaylore]

Maybe the punt situation is still a competition. I mean you have to list someone as the number 2, so maybe Kern as the number 1 holder is their way of saying they want to see how they play in preseason before making a final decision. This is one of those situations where I feel like whatever decision we make will be the wrong one. Like no matter who we pick, the other one will go on to have a great career somewhere else and the guy we keep will tank as soon as the other guy is off the team.

[montrose]

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

Doesn't look like Alridge makes the 53...

He still could, he's been impressive in camp. With that, it'll be hard to justify keeping 4 HB's when two (Hall, Alridge) are similar and one (Hall) is a better all-round player than the other.

[socalorado]

So 8 draft picks from the 2008 draft made the 53 man roster as of today.
Also, Woodyard is on there.
Clady
Royal
Lichtensteiger
JMFW
Torain
Larsen
Barrett
Hillis

UDFA
Woodyard

[BabyTO]

Torain will be the #1 once the season starts.

[fdf]

Originally Posted by Kaylore

It's a shame that Moss hasn't cracked the starting lineup, but I think once the lights come on he's going to really make some waves.

I was dubious about the Moss pick from the start for this reason. He and Dumervil are both small, very fast DE's that should excel in the pass rush. But that means Moss has to get around Dumervil to start. And, imho, Dumervil just wants it more and wants the QB more--and that is the key trait that makes you a starting DE on 3rd down.

Unless Moss can establish himself as the best RUN stopper at that position, he will be playing behind the bigger boys on first and second down and behind Dumervil on third. If he shows he is almost as good as the bigger boys against the run and almost as good a Dumervil against the pass, then he sees time against teams who run the no-huddle.

But he has quite some distance to go before he's going to move past Dumervil as a pass rusher.

[vancejohnson82]

Webster at the Mike doesnt surprise me....

[Kaylore]

Actually Moss and Dumervil are the starting ends in our nickel package.

[jsco70]

Originally Posted by fdf

I was dubious about the Moss pick from the start for this reason. He and Dumervil are both small, very fast DE's that should excel in the pass rush. But that means Moss has to get around Dumervil to start. And, imho, Dumervil just wants it more and wants the QB more--and that is the key trait that makes you a starting DE on 3rd down.

Unless Moss can establish himself as the best RUN stopper at that position, he will be playing behind the bigger boys on first and second down and behind Dumervil on third. If he shows he is almost as good as the bigger boys against the run and almost as good a Dumervil against the pass, then he sees time against teams who run the no-huddle.

But he has quite some distance to go before he's going to move past Dumervil as a pass rusher.

Yes, Dumervil and Moss are basically the same player. However, what are the chances Denver can re-sign Dumervil if he continues his current pace? I have no idea on cap number, contract terms, etc but the market always overpays for pass rushers. It's just a thought though. Kind of reminds of the Reggie Hayward, Bert Berry, Trevor Pryce situation.

[ludo21]

Originally Posted by Kaylore

It's interesting that Scheffler is the second after taking a majority of snaps on the second and third team. We all knew he was better than Jackson, but for some reason Jackson was taking reps with the ones.

Kern looks he's out. It's a shame because I think he's going to be a great punter, but the team is more satisfied with the veterans.

Webster is going to start the season at Mike.

I think Polumbus makes the team.

Does anyone else think it's hilarious that Parker isn't even on the depth chart at all?

He is on their as 4th string PR.

I agree with you on the punter thing, I feel that same way for some reason.

[theAPAOps5]

Originally Posted by BabyTO

Torain will be the #1 once the season starts.

No he won't

[socalorado]

Originally Posted by ApaOps5

No he won't

Yeah. Your right.
Not until week 4.

[ludo21]

Originally Posted by jsco70

Yes, Dumervil and Moss are basically the same player. However, what are the chances Denver can re-sign Dumervil if he continues his current pace? I have no idea on cap number, contract terms, etc but the market always overpays for pass rushers. It's just a thought though. Kind of reminds of the Reggie Hayward, Bert Berry, Trevor Pryce situation.

Honestly if Moss proves capable I would be willing to bet we part ways with Doom if he doesnt want to sign for something reasonable. Sucks, but thats what I see happening.

[Dos Rios]

Originally Posted by montrose

Actually very accurate compared to past years. Here's a few things I noticed:

QB - Ramsey still #2 despite being outplayed
Ramsey also backup holder - helps his case a bit.
FB - Hillis ahead of Pittman
And Pittman listed exclusively at fullback. Not a good sign for him.
TE - Scheffler ahead of Jackson despite practice being to the contrary
DE - Ekuban listed #2 despite working almost exclusively at DT, while Crowder is listed #3 despite working with the #2's and #1's
Is Crowder missing something at this point? This one is a surprise.
DT - Thomas ahead of Peterson despite the reverse taking place thus far in camp; Mallard on the 3rd team despite working with the #2's and #1's
MLB - Nate with the early lead over Niko
CB - Paymah still head of JMFW
S - Rogers ahead of Barrett
Either of these guys ready to play real minutes or would the team look to Foxworth first?
P - Paulescu winning, but Kern is still the #1 H?
KR - Royal with the early lead over Hall
Surprised to see Royal #1 at both PR/KR. Along with #2 wr behind Marshall, which theoretically means he would start during BM's absence. I can't believe Royal really starts at wr/pr/kr on opening day, but they sure are high on him.

Couple other thoughts:

- As the TC reports have suggested, Colbert looks like WR6.
- Alexander at C3 and Lichtensteiger exclusively at guard? If Nalen can't go, center is going to be a tricky roster spot.
- I know Pears is unpopular and the team is high on Polumbus, but it stills seems like you can't cut Pears with a rookie starting at LT.
- Holland's binge eating may have screwed Kuper's chance at playing some right tackle this year. With Harris/Pears/Polumbus getting snaps for 1 starting and 1 (2?) backup tackle spots, and Weigmann saying he's exclusively a center, it seems like Kuper needs to stay inside to make the numbers work.

[Mediator12]

Originally Posted by Dos Rios

Couple other thoughts:

- As the TC reports have suggested, Colbert looks like WR6.
- Alexander at C3 and Lichtensteiger exclusively at guard? If Nalen can't go, center is going to be a tricky roster spot.
- I know Pears is unpopular and the team is high on Polumbus, but it stills seems like you can't cut Pears with a rookie starting at LT.
- Holland's binge eating may have screwed Kuper's chance at playing some right tackle this year. With Harris/Pears/Polumbus getting snaps for 1 starting and 1 (2?) backup tackle spots, and Weigmann saying he's exclusively a center, it seems like Kuper needs to stay inside to make the numbers work.

It will be real interesting on the OL as most teams only dress 7 OL on game days. That means a swing OT, and a G/C. Hamilton being able to go inside for Nalen @ center is a huge bonus, but I want to see him play before that is an option.

Hamilton and nalen's health on this young OL is a huge area to be concerned. Nalen's knee already acting up is NOT a good sign....

[SonOfLe-loLang]

Originally Posted by montrose

He still could, he's been impressive in camp. With that, it'll be hard to justify keeping 4 HB's when two (Hall, Alridge) are similar and one (Hall) is a better all-round player than the other.

If what everyone is saying is true, i think they find a place for Alridge on the team. He brings an added dimension the team hasn't seen since Glyn Milburn (maybe KaRon Coleman, but i suppose he was a real poor man's Milburn). But we haven't had that pure speed/elusiveness guy who can catch passes out of the backfield and always win the race to the corner.

Plus I just got a text message saying Alridge just had a 50 yard TD run against the first team D.

He might be small like Hall, but his skill set does seem a bit different.

[SonOfLe-loLang]

Originally Posted by Kaylore

Maybe the punt situation is still a competition. I mean you have to list someone as the number 2, so maybe Kern as the number 1 holder is their way of saying they want to see how they play in preseason before making a final decision. This is one of those situations where I feel like whatever decision we make will be the wrong one. Like no matter who we pick, the other one will go on to have a great career somewhere else and the guy we keep will tank as soon as the other guy is off the team.

Didnt the coaches say something like they couldnt even begin to decide on who is ahead in the punting comp until the first preseason game? I think they are just putting the Vet ahead out of respect...they are both punting the first game.

[DarkHorse]

Originally Posted by jsco70

Yes, Dumervil and Moss are basically the same player. However, what are the chances Denver can re-sign Dumervil if he continues his current pace? I have no idea on cap number, contract terms, etc but the market always overpays for pass rushers. It's just a thought though. Kind of reminds of the Reggie Hayward, Bert Berry, Trevor Pryce situation.

The only one on that list that's even remotely on the level of Dumervil is/was Trevor Pryce.

Dumervil is a special player - you do what you can to resign a guy like this. High motor, great work ethic, team player, successful because HE wants to be.