Marshall showing maturity - The Orange Mane

DukeWoody · 07-31-2008, 02:10 AM

Marshall showing maturity
By Mike Klis
The Denver Post
Article Last Updated: 07/30/2008 11:51:34 PM MDT

http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_10048916

Broncos wide receiver Brandon Marshall, outracing the defense for a touchdown at training camp, has been "very impressive," cornerback Dre Bly says. "His focus has been great." Marshall could be hit with a suspension related to the NFL's personal conduct policy. (John Leyba, The Denver Post )Whatever fate awaits Brandon Marshall, there are signs he has grown.

Maturation is evident on the Dove Valley fields, where the Broncos conduct their twice-daily training camp workouts. Aches and pains aren't keeping Marshall away from practice, as was the case a year ago. He is on time. He has seemed quieter than usual. He still has his charming, boyish, smile. He just hasn't displayed it as often.

No doubt, it has been a more subdued Brandon Marshall. About all the Broncos wide receiver has exhibited with greater regularity are flashes of unstoppable dominance.

"Very impressive," Broncos cornerback Dre Bly said. "His focus has been great. He's not letting any of that stuff affect him. I tell people that Brandon's not a bad

He's just been in the right place at the wrong time. Hopefully, the commissioner will give him another chance and not suspend him and he can be a threat for this team."
Can improved on-field professionalism translate into off-field reform? Since leaving the NFL commissioner's office in New York nearly two weeks ago, Marshall has been living with an inescapable sense of impending doom.

Marshall was involved in numerous police-related incidents during a 12-month period that included three arrests but zero convictions. The commissioner, Roger Goodell, has proved he doesn't need a conviction to rule a player has violated the league's personal conduct policy.

Based on Goodell's past rulings, there would not be shock if Marshall was suspended two to four games.

The Broncos make the case that Marshall should not be suspended. By rights, a player can only be fined, not suspended, for his first DUI arrest, which Marshall had last October. As for Marshall's domestic violence arrest March 6 in Atlanta, no formal charges have been filed nearly five months later.

Nevertheless, Goodell soon will notify Marshall of his decision. Marshall then will have the right to appeal. The uncertainty regarding Marshall's early-season status, however, has seemingly sharpened his resolve at training camp. Almost every day now, Marshall does something spectacular — he beat Bly on a deep route before hauling in a Jay Cutler touchdown pass Wednesday. And each time Marshall demonstrates his awe-inspiring athleticism, he reminds the Broncos of what they may lose.

"He is a big piece of this puzzle," said cornerback Champ Bailey, the star of the defense. "If he does have to miss some time, it's going to hurt us. Hopefully, people will step up."

No matter how you were evaluated in the past B-Marsh, i'm all about second chances and giving the opportunity for people to prove themselves when the chips are all in...You go bud, make this football team proud...

Killericon · 07-31-2008, 02:16 AM

What a blatant fluff piece.

DukeWoody · 07-31-2008, 02:31 AM

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Originally Posted by killericon

What a blatant fluff piece.

I guess you completly missed the point there stampede boy..

cutthemdown · 07-31-2008, 02:32 AM

all is well, nothing to see here, move on home people.

Killericon · 07-31-2008, 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by DukeWoody

I guess you completly missed the point there stampede boy..

I guess so. Stampede boy? Is that a reference to the greatest outdoor show on earth?

DukeWoody · 07-31-2008, 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by killericon

I guess so. Stampede boy? Is that a reference to the greatest outdoor show on earth?

Yes and you should be proud of it....I was lucky enough to participate...oh about 11 years ago, had the time of my life..luv Alberta, this coming from a Ontario boy...

broncocalijohn · 07-31-2008, 02:51 AM

I dont think most had question of BM on the field as much as off the field. Maturity might be to not play rough house and drive while being drunk. Those are what offends most here.

Florida_Bronco · 07-31-2008, 04:23 AM

Good article.

crazyhorse · 07-31-2008, 05:25 AM

I dont get it. How is he showing maturity? By making plays in camp?

Strange article. Seems more like a reporter trying to argue his case of why a player (because of his talent), shouldn't have to pay the penalty for his mistakes.

Hogan11 · 07-31-2008, 05:55 AM

Puff Piece

Bronco_Beerslug · 07-31-2008, 06:43 AM

Yep, he's all growd up now. You can tell by the way he runs on and off the field now.

Broncoman13 · 07-31-2008, 06:59 AM

I think Marshall needs to be suspended. It's best for him. I hate the impact it will have on our team, but his behavior needs to be punished so that it can cease. Obviously I wish he was just another Brandon Stokley or Rod Smith type and in time he may turn into that... but for now, he needs to know that this NFL life is an opportunity, and it can be taken away if he doesn't live the the law of the land. I'd hope for a 2 game suspension and that he can play that down to 1 game. I'm expecting a 4 game suspension and hoping he can play that down to 2.

No matter what, he's one hell of a WR. TO is a special player and Brandon is quickly becoming a stronger version of TO! It's scary how good this kid can be, by far the most talented WR we've ever had in Denver!

Dukes · 07-31-2008, 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by crazyhorse

I dont get it. How is he showing maturity? By making plays in camp?

Strange article. Seems more like a reporter trying to argue his case of why a player (because of his talent), shouldn't have to pay the penalty for his mistakes.

My thoughts exactly.

I'll know he's grown up when the only time I hear his name is in reference to highlights, not police reports. Right now, he's in a humbled state of shock of his impending suspension after meeting with Goodell. Doesn't mean he's grown up.

BabyTO · 07-31-2008, 07:32 AM

great article

BabyTO · 07-31-2008, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Bronco_Beerslug

Yep, he's all growd up now. You can tell by the way he runs on and off the field now.

Where does it say he's all grown up now? Did you even finish highschool? It says he's showing signs of maturity and right at the beginning of the article he lists a few examples of why he thinks Marshall is more mature than he was in the past. He's not gonna turn into John Lynch within a day. Talking to these Marshall haters is like trying to talk sense to a retarded 2 year old.

worm · 07-31-2008, 07:59 AM

Well the Broncos have done their part in trying to ensure he doesn't get suspended.

From articles like this...to Rod making the trip to NY...to all the support the team has shown Brandon. If Brandon fails it won't be because of the lack of a support structure around him in Denver.

IF (a big if right now) he makes it through all this...he should be a Bronco for life...and could be one of the best to EVER play the position.

Franchise QB. Franchise LT. Franchise WR.

Nice young pieces to build on.

no-pseudo-fan · 07-31-2008, 08:23 AM

I am starting to believe that he will not be suspended, given a stern warning and a threat that even the smallest infraction will get him suspended.

Traffic Tickets are not punishable by the league conduct rule(see M. Lynch), neither is police coming to your house, so those should be out of the discussion. The biggest issues are with the domestic issues that he had, and that has already been taken care of. No charges have been filed against him. The other thing is the DUI, that is unacceptable, but 1st time offense is not going to get him suspended. I don't think the league can justify a suspension with what he has done. I think the wait is almost punishment enough. Must be killing him, I know that it is killing me.

Mediator12 · 07-31-2008, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by BabyTO

Where does it say he's all grown up now? Did you even finish highschool? It says he's showing signs of maturity and right at the beginning of the article he lists a few examples of why he thinks Marshall is more mature than he was in the past. He's not gonna turn into John Lynch within a day. Talking to these Marshall haters is like trying to talk sense to a retarded 2 year old.

Labeling people is the way children look at the world. Calling someone a Marshall Hater is the easy way out, like a three year with no other way to complain but cry to try and get his way.

We all know you would support Brandon when he fails again and I commend you for your passion. Passion in his defense does not equal common sense though. His demeanor means nothing whether it is on the field or off it. What matters is that he goes another 12 months without a visit from the police for ANY reasons. If he dials 911 it should be for an ambulance, not police. And then, you hope he does not lie to the media about why the ambulance came to his home.

The one thing you can never be sure of is motive and what is in a person's heart. Words and public demeanor can be faked, and some people are damn cold liars. Marshall does not look like one of those or he would have had a smoother story than the McDonalds bag got me!

The ONLY thing that will prove Brandon is capable of turning it around is time. Time with no further need for police involvement or media scrutiny.

I for one want Brandon to go to the Pro-Bowl this year and Be All-pro. I like the kid or I would NOT spend so much time discussing him and his situation. I try not to suffer fools, and I believe this is a kid that is in way over his head, not a POS. However, he could easily turn into one if he does not curb his behavior and take the support and advice of those around him who actually care about him and not what he does for a living.

Kaylore · 07-31-2008, 09:38 AM

YAY! Marshall is showing maturity by playing well in camp! Wait, he played well in camp before. Ok he has not been arrested this month! YAY! He's turned over a new leaf! YAY!

theAPAOps5 · 07-31-2008, 09:40 AM

Marshall is showing great restraint he only drove 30 over the speed limit on the way home from camp, reports say.

watermock · 07-31-2008, 09:52 AM

It's a start.

jsco70 · 07-31-2008, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by worm

Well the Broncos have done their part in trying to ensure he doesn't get suspended.

From articles like this...to Rod making the trip to NY...to all the support the team has shown Brandon. If Brandon fails it won't be because of the lack of a support structure around him in Denver.

IF (a big if right now) he makes it through all this...he should be a Bronco for life...and could be one of the best to EVER play the position.

Franchise QB. Franchise LT. Franchise WR.

Nice young pieces to build on.

Great post. The Broncos Organization have done their part. It is now soley up to Brandon. He can leave all the crap behind, start fresh and possibly become one of the great receivers. Or, he can throw it all away and become a footnote in Bronco history.

DenverBroncosJM · 07-31-2008, 10:14 AM

I guess this means Champ has the maturity of a 90 year old. I mean if we are going by skill in camp as a gauge of maturity I guess I would be somewhere around 3?

Beantown Bronco · 07-31-2008, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by DenverBroncosJM

I guess this means Champ has the maturity of a 90 year old. I mean if we are going by skill in camp as a gauge of maturity I guess I would be somewhere around 3?

This is now the 20th time I've seen some variation of this argument in this thread. You guys REALLY need to brush up on your reading comprehension. The argument being presented by the author of this article is NOT that "skill = maturity", it's simply that ones ability to block out extreme personal-life distractions like he is going through now while managing to get the job done at a high level, IS a sign of maturity.

dbfan4life · 07-31-2008, 10:20 AM

Matured? I think not, I mean he ran sprints without a shoe. How is that mature? When he stops eating babies, then talk to me about mature.

07-31-2008, 02:10 AM	#1
DukeWoody Happenin Homer Homie Back to the drawing board Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: In The Loft / Dog House Posts: 1,151 Adopt-a-Bronco: NEXT BIG STAR	Marshall showing maturity Marshall showing maturity By Mike Klis The Denver Post Article Last Updated: 07/30/2008 11:51:34 PM MDT http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_10048916 Broncos wide receiver Brandon Marshall, outracing the defense for a touchdown at training camp, has been "very impressive," cornerback Dre Bly says. "His focus has been great." Marshall could be hit with a suspension related to the NFL's personal conduct policy. (John Leyba, The Denver Post )Whatever fate awaits Brandon Marshall, there are signs he has grown. Maturation is evident on the Dove Valley fields, where the Broncos conduct their twice-daily training camp workouts. Aches and pains aren't keeping Marshall away from practice, as was the case a year ago. He is on time. He has seemed quieter than usual. He still has his charming, boyish, smile. He just hasn't displayed it as often. No doubt, it has been a more subdued Brandon Marshall. About all the Broncos wide receiver has exhibited with greater regularity are flashes of unstoppable dominance. "Very impressive," Broncos cornerback Dre Bly said. "His focus has been great. He's not letting any of that stuff affect him. I tell people that Brandon's not a bad He's just been in the right place at the wrong time. Hopefully, the commissioner will give him another chance and not suspend him and he can be a threat for this team." Can improved on-field professionalism translate into off-field reform? Since leaving the NFL commissioner's office in New York nearly two weeks ago, Marshall has been living with an inescapable sense of impending doom. Marshall was involved in numerous police-related incidents during a 12-month period that included three arrests but zero convictions. The commissioner, Roger Goodell, has proved he doesn't need a conviction to rule a player has violated the league's personal conduct policy. Based on Goodell's past rulings, there would not be shock if Marshall was suspended two to four games. The Broncos make the case that Marshall should not be suspended. By rights, a player can only be fined, not suspended, for his first DUI arrest, which Marshall had last October. As for Marshall's domestic violence arrest March 6 in Atlanta, no formal charges have been filed nearly five months later. Nevertheless, Goodell soon will notify Marshall of his decision. Marshall then will have the right to appeal. The uncertainty regarding Marshall's early-season status, however, has seemingly sharpened his resolve at training camp. Almost every day now, Marshall does something spectacular — he beat Bly on a deep route before hauling in a Jay Cutler touchdown pass Wednesday. And each time Marshall demonstrates his awe-inspiring athleticism, he reminds the Broncos of what they may lose. "He is a big piece of this puzzle," said cornerback Champ Bailey, the star of the defense. "If he does have to miss some time, it's going to hurt us. Hopefully, people will step up." No matter how you were evaluated in the past B-Marsh, i'm all about second chances and giving the opportunity for people to prove themselves when the chips are all in...You go bud, make this football team proud...

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07-31-2008, 02:16 AM	#2
Killericon YES A DT!!!!!! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: From Calgary, in Halifax for School Posts: 7,730 Adopt-a-Bronco: watermock	What a blatant fluff piece.

07-31-2008, 02:32 AM	#4
cutthemdown A verbis ad verbera Zimm to HOF Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Long Beach Posts: 32,491	all is well, nothing to see here, move on home people.

07-31-2008, 02:51 AM	#7
broncocalijohn Famer of Rings My Dog Richard Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Lake Forest, Orange County, Calif. Posts: 18,475 Adopt-a-Bronco: Simon Fletcher	I dont think most had question of BM on the field as much as off the field. Maturity might be to not play rough house and drive while being drunk. Those are what offends most here.

07-31-2008, 04:23 AM	#8
Florida_Bronco Got trolls? Welcome to Mile High, Brady! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Tampa Bay Posts: 13,810 Adopt-a-Bronco: Brady Quinn	Good article.

07-31-2008, 05:25 AM	#9
crazyhorse All Motor!! You can only hope to contain me Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,338	I dont get it. How is he showing maturity? By making plays in camp? Strange article. Seems more like a reporter trying to argue his case of why a player (because of his talent), shouldn't have to pay the penalty for his mistakes.

07-31-2008, 05:55 AM	#10
Hogan11 Rock-N-Roll Historian Let's take these SOB's out!!!!!! Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: W.NY.B.C. Posts: 21,300 Adopt-a-Bronco: Floyd Little	Puff Piece

07-31-2008, 06:43 AM	#11
Bronco_Beerslug Angling in the Deep Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Texas Riviera, Southern Mountains Posts: 24,281	Yep, he's all growd up now. You can tell by the way he runs on and off the field now.

07-31-2008, 06:59 AM	#12
Broncoman13 Broncoholic JT #80 Join Date: May 2001 Location: Colorado Posts: 16,961 Adopt-a-Bronco: Orange Julius	I think Marshall needs to be suspended. It's best for him. I hate the impact it will have on our team, but his behavior needs to be punished so that it can cease. Obviously I wish he was just another Brandon Stokley or Rod Smith type and in time he may turn into that... but for now, he needs to know that this NFL life is an opportunity, and it can be taken away if he doesn't live the the law of the land. I'd hope for a 2 game suspension and that he can play that down to 1 game. I'm expecting a 4 game suspension and hoping he can play that down to 2. No matter what, he's one hell of a WR. TO is a special player and Brandon is quickly becoming a stronger version of TO! It's scary how good this kid can be, by far the most talented WR we've ever had in Denver!

07-31-2008, 07:32 AM	#14
BabyTO Perennial Pro-bowler ^ Winner Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 791 Adopt-a-Bronco: Timmy	great article

07-31-2008, 07:59 AM	#16
worm Great moments are born... ...from great opportunity Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 3,947 Adopt-a-Bronco: #20	Well the Broncos have done their part in trying to ensure he doesn't get suspended. From articles like this...to Rod making the trip to NY...to all the support the team has shown Brandon. If Brandon fails it won't be because of the lack of a support structure around him in Denver. IF (a big if right now) he makes it through all this...he should be a Bronco for life...and could be one of the best to EVER play the position. Franchise QB. Franchise LT. Franchise WR. Nice young pieces to build on.

07-31-2008, 08:23 AM	#17
no-pseudo-fan True Orange & Blue Follow me... Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: EPT Posts: 2,136 Adopt-a-Bronco: Hidalgo	I am starting to believe that he will not be suspended, given a stern warning and a threat that even the smallest infraction will get him suspended. Traffic Tickets are not punishable by the league conduct rule(see M. Lynch), neither is police coming to your house, so those should be out of the discussion. The biggest issues are with the domestic issues that he had, and that has already been taken care of. No charges have been filed against him. The other thing is the DUI, that is unacceptable, but 1st time offense is not going to get him suspended. I don't think the league can justify a suspension with what he has done. I think the wait is almost punishment enough. Must be killing him, I know that it is killing me.

07-31-2008, 09:38 AM	#19
Kaylore 6-37, Raider fans. Yummy birds and snow! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Ceti Alpha V Posts: 41,061 Adopt-a-Bronco: Wesley Duke	YAY! Marshall is showing maturity by playing well in camp! Wait, he played well in camp before. Ok he has not been arrested this month! YAY! He's turned over a new leaf! YAY!

07-31-2008, 09:40 AM	#20
theAPAOps5 A new beginning! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Denver Posts: 26,058 Adopt-a-Bronco: Watermock - RIP	Marshall is showing great restraint he only drove 30 over the speed limit on the way home from camp, reports say.

07-31-2008, 09:52 AM	#21
watermock "Hoodie Jr" "Hug me!" Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Hot Springs, Ouachitah Posts: 77,090	It's a start.

07-31-2008, 10:14 AM	#23
DenverBroncosJM Post here Vine Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: California Posts: 975	I guess this means Champ has the maturity of a 90 year old. I mean if we are going by skill in camp as a gauge of maturity I guess I would be somewhere around 3?

07-31-2008, 10:20 AM	#25
dbfan4life Ring of Famer Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Las Cruces, NM Posts: 2,499	Matured? I think not, I mean he ran sprints without a shoe. How is that mature? When he stops eating babies, then talk to me about mature.