Anyone hear Obama speak without a teleprompter?

[Bob]

It’s like watching Bush II --flat-out painful to listen to. He can deliver a speech (that is written for him) but when he has to come up with his own responses, from mildly challenging questions he bumbles and stumbles. I know it is blasphemous to speak against Lord Obama, but contrary to ABC, CBS, and NBC (his new marketing team) I cant help but state the obvious, that he is another empty suite.

[Spider]

Originally Posted by Bob

I know it is blasphemous to speak against Lord Obama, .

then shut the **** up ........ if you know it is wrong then dont do it

[Bob]

Originally Posted by Spider

then shut the **** up ........ if you know it is wrong then dont do it

I am assuming that is what you and many others have done -- checked their intellectual honesty at the door? Maybe you have had some less than flattering stuff to say about Lord Obama, but I tell you -- I have not heard much from the media who have given up even pretending to report the news.

You hear what he said about the surge?

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

This sort of criticism from a guy who voted for a man who can't speak in complete sentences even with a teleprompter is beyond ironic.

It smacks of desperation.



In any event, I don't think you get to be president of the Harvard Law Review and a professor of law without public speaking skills.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Originally Posted by Bob

[B]Anyone hear Obama speak without a teleprompter?

Several times now and I heard none of what you are saying. Have a link for this George Bush lingo?

[Spider]

Originally Posted by Bob

I am assuming that is what you and many others have done -- checked their intellectual honesty at the door? Maybe you have had some less than flattering stuff to say about Lord Obama, but I tell you -- I have not heard much from the media who have given up even pretending to report the news.

You hear what he said about the surge?

No it is rather simple leave the bull**** at the door .......Look everyone knows that you will put Party before country , I am not shocked you went this route , spewing bull**** in some desperate hope that McCain will look good .....
you stooped to lying..... no respect for that

[ak1971]

Originally Posted by Bob

I am assuming that is what you and many others have done -- checked their intellectual honesty at the door?

Intellectual and spider?

[Spider]

Originally Posted by ak1971

Intellectual and spider?

coming from someone that burnt his house to the ground ......

[ak1971]

Originally Posted by Spider

coming from someone that burnt his house to the ground ......

yeah...shouldnt you be in jail?

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Originally Posted by Spider

coming from someone that burnt his house to the ground ......

[Bob]

Originally Posted by Spider

No it is rather simple leave the bull**** at the door .......Look everyone knows that you will put Party before country , I am not shocked you went this route , spewing bull**** in some desperate hope that McCain will look good .....
you stooped to lying..... no respect for that

No, actually not true -- as you know, I have not exactly been a supporter of McCain, or the R's, but say it to deflect if you wish. But I was surprised to hear how poor he was when he actually has to articulate his ideas off the cuff, which makes me think that he doesnt have that much at his center. Its not like he cant deliver a line, so the fact that he cant do it when off message makes me wonder how much is at his core, and how much is fluff.

It is interesting that how tweaked folks get when we question the Messiah ...

[Spider]

Originally Posted by ak1971

yeah...shouldnt you be in jail?

Lets take a look at who should be in jail ....... I punched another guy that wanted to fight in the throat = Bad but the other guy could have done the same .....
you , Sub prime borrower , about to lose everything just happens to have insurance and faulty wiring ........

[Spider]

Originally Posted by Bob

No, actually not true -- as you know, I have not exactly been a supporter of McCain, or the R's, but say it to deflect if you wish. But I was surprised to hear how poor he was when he actually has to articulate his ideas off the cuff, which makes me think that he doesnt have that much at his center. Its not like he cant deliver a line, so the fact that he cant do it when off message makes me wonder how much is at his core, and how much is fluff.

It is interesting that how tweaked folks get when we question the Messiah ...

if thats your story stick to it

[ak1971]

Originally Posted by Spider

Lets take a look at who should be in jail ....... I punched another guy that wanted to fight in the throat = Bad but the other guy could have done the same .....
you , Sub prime borrower , about to lose everything just happens to have insurance and faulty wiring ........

?

[Spider]

Originally Posted by ak1971

?

same answer you gave the fire inspectors I am sure

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Originally Posted by Bob

It is interesting that how tweaked folks get when we question the Messiah ...

It's not your questioning that "tweaks" me (I'm not planning to vote for Obama.)

It's the irony of who is doing the questioning.

That is, you had no trouble supporting a guy who, from the first moment he appeared on the national stage, distinguished himself as an embarrassingly inarticulate boob and a complete ignoramus - (remember, BTW, all the spin we heard from right-wingers about how Bush's "lack of eloquence" was no big deal, not necessarily a reflection of his intelligence, etc.) but now public speaking skills are suddenly a concern or a priority for you.

[ak1971]

Originally Posted by Spider

same answer you gave the fire inspectors I am sure

yeah you got me there ole intellegent one.

[Spider]

Originally Posted by ak1971

yeah you got me there ole intellegent one.

wasnt hard

[Drek]

Originally Posted by Bob

No, actually not true -- as you know, I have not exactly been a supporter of McCain, or the R's, but say it to deflect if you wish. But I was surprised to hear how poor he was when he actually has to articulate his ideas off the cuff, which makes me think that he doesnt have that much at his center. Its not like he cant deliver a line, so the fact that he cant do it when off message makes me wonder how much is at his core, and how much is fluff.

It is interesting that how tweaked folks get when we question the Messiah ...

Care to provide an example?

He's definitely not my messiah, but living in Illinois I've seen him speak at events sans-teleprompter both large and small. I'd dare say he's stronger when he goes without a teleprompter because he comes across incredibly genuine while still being unquestionably articulate and intelligent.

Last one was the Cape Girardeau, MO town hall, very good off the cuff answers to question after question.

[ak1971]

Originally Posted by Spider

wasnt hard

Im sure thats why those lot lizards bring you viagra

[Spider]

Originally Posted by ak1971

Im sure thats why those lot lizards bring you viagra

Pretty good healthcare plan ........not as good as insurance fraud ..........

[BroncoBuff]

Originally Posted by Bob

It’s like watching Bush II --flat-out painful to listen to. He can deliver a speech (that is written for him) but when he has to come up with his own responses, from mildly challenging questions he bumbles and stumbles. I know it is blasphemous to speak against Lord Obama, but contrary to ABC, CBS, and NBC (his new marketing team) I cant help but state the obvious, that he is another empty suite.

You're out of your mind ... he did a sit-down with Katie Couric today in Amman that was excellent, very thoughtful. He does have a mild tendency toward "Uhs" when pausing ... but just wait til he wipes the floor with your boy in the debates ... I will revive this foolish thread of yours.

BTW ... how's the weather in Czeckoslovakia, Bob?

[BroncoBuff]

It's so sad, but if Obama ever said "Czeckoslovakia," it would be all over the media instantaneously, the 527's would be feverishly cranking out ads, and McCain would claim it's "proof Obama is not ready to lead." Where's the even-handed-ness and fair play? The media should be ROASTING McCain for his obvious lack of knowledge.


Let's see: One is an intellectual pacifist who is mildly prone to "uhhs."

The other is a senior citizen warmonger who can't read a tele-prompter and doesn't know a Sunni from a Shi'a.



Gosh ... I wonder who's better qualified to be president

[That One Guy]

Originally Posted by BroncoBuff

It's so sad, but if Obama ever said "Czeckoslovakia," it would be all over the media instantaneously, the 527's would be feverishly cranking out ads, and McCain would claim it's "proof Obama is not ready to lead." Where's the even-handed-ness and fair play? The media should be ROASTING McCain for his obvious lack of knowledge.


Let's see: One is an intellectual pacifist who is mildly prone to "uhhs."

The other is a senior citizen warmonger who can't read a tele-prompter and doesn't know a Sunni from a Shi'a.



Gosh ... I wonder who's better qualified to be president

Early in the primaries I sat and watched a Obama speech and was amazed. There are some I've seen since where you would think there were 2 different people speaking. I don't know that one was telepromptered or not. He may have just gotten flustered and was trying to regain his thoughts, not sure, but there's definitely times when Obama's not the speaker I saw the first time.

That being said, not everyone is perfect. Just myself a few others that I've met to date are. The ability I saw that first day though and on some occasions since do tell me he's not purely a product of a teleprompter when it comes to delivery, at least.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Originally Posted by cah412

Early in the primaries I sat and watched a Obama speech and was amazed. There are some I've seen since where you would think there were 2 different people speaking. I don't know that one was telepromptered or not. He may have just gotten flustered and was trying to regain his thoughts, not sure, but there's definitely times when Obama's not the speaker I saw the first time.

That being said, not everyone is perfect. Just myself a few others that I've met to date are. The ability I saw that first day though and on some occasions since do tell me he's not purely a product of a teleprompter when it comes to delivery, at least.

After eight years of Bush, it's nice that someone is raising the bar.