USA today on Corners past and present - The Orange Mane

TheReverend · 07-02-2008, 09:07 AM

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/footb...nerbacks_N.htm

Champ #1 for current corners, and currently ranked #9 for all time... I think many of the voters weren't sure if he was eligible for the all-time list yet... expect that to spike into the top 3 all time minimum when he retires.

Gcver2ver3 · 07-02-2008, 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheReverend

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/footb...nerbacks_N.htm

Champ #1 for current corners, and currently ranked #9 for all time... I think many of the voters weren't sure if he was eligible for the all-time list yet... expect that to spike into the top 3 all time minimum when he retires.

he's number 2 all-time...right now...

broncs2bowl · 07-02-2008, 09:18 AM

Its in my sig baby

broncofan2438 · 07-02-2008, 09:24 AM

Thats my boy

worm · 07-02-2008, 09:35 AM

He deserves a Ring.

socalorado · 07-02-2008, 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gcver2ver3

he's number 2 all-time...right now...

Behind who? And please dont say anyone who's name rhymes with "neon".

socalorado · 07-02-2008, 09:52 AM

We are talking about football players right?!?!?

Allow me...

Darrell Green.

Like Junior Seau at No. 20, cornerback Darrell Green became an NFL institution by spending so many years in the NFL that it was hard to remember when he first arrived.
In Green's case, he joined the Redskins in 1983 -- and spent 20 seasons with the same team. For a guy whose ongoing employment hinges on speed and agility, the fact that he could remain on the one squad's roster for 20 seasons is amazing. The reality that 10 of those seasons came in the free-agency era, which has resulted in many a veteran being purged from his team prematurely, boggles the mind.
Along the way, Green won two Super Bowl rings, and played a key role in the march to the team's 1987 NFL championship with a game-changing punt return against the Bears.
At a mere 5-9, Green was for years one of the fastest players in the NFL, winning on multiple occasions a made-for-TV sprinting competition with other fleet-footed football players.
Green most certainly will land in the Hall of Fame in 2008, his first year of eligibility. He deserves it, and he definitely deserves a spot among the best 25 players of the past 25 years. He might just be one of the best 25 ever.
http://www.profootballtalk.com/No19Green.htm
I know it florio, but its his best work hes ever written. At least he got this one right for once.
Heres Green chasing down one of the fastest players in NFL history as a rookie. yeah, a complete football player.
Just click on the clip you want.
http://www.darrellgreen.com/for_the_...all_clips.html

Does anyone have any similiar clips on "Neon" making plays like this? or even tackling, ever?

yerner · 07-02-2008, 09:57 AM

Yeah DG is classic. But I guess I'm a homer cause I seriously think Champ Bailey is the best corner ever.

Dr. Broncenstein · 07-02-2008, 09:59 AM

An all-time Broncos corner list would be pretty fierce with Champ Bailey and Louis Wright.

epicSocialism4tw · 07-02-2008, 10:01 AM

Champ is the best I have ever seen.

BroncosinDC · 07-02-2008, 01:17 PM

We should make this a tradition we draft a running back use him for a few years pad his numbers a bit and trade him to the Skins for a CB who has just enough experience to be done with growing pains and be the best in the game. It seems that between DG and Champ they draft CB's well.

Gcver2ver3 · 07-02-2008, 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by socalorado

Behind who? And please dont say anyone who's name rhymes with "neon".

oh yeah...primetime baby...

no other corner has ever had the impact on a game the way he did...

i don't care if he could tackle or not...he literally shut down half the field when he was on it...

i don't care that he had less WR friendly rules either...it is what it is...

primetime was the best ever at his position...

ok haters flame away...lol...

CoopDawg · 07-02-2008, 03:55 PM

Champ will only get to the top of that list by winning and getting picks in the Super Bowl.

socalorado · 07-02-2008, 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gcver2ver3

oh yeah...primetime baby...

no other corner has ever had the impact on a game the way he did...

i don't care if he could tackle or not...he literally shut down half the field when he was on it...

i don't care that he had less WR friendly rules either...it is what it is...

primetime was the best ever at his position...

ok haters flame away...lol...

He never shut down his side of the field in ATL. He only did this on "Superstar" teams, with superstars at all the positions. He played on "Dynasty" teams. That is why he was considered the best. He was really good in ATL, but not dominant, like in DAL or SF.
Oh, and he couldnt knock down a girlscout in an elevator!
Guy was a total and complete p***Y as a football player.
Great athlete though. Multi talented, like Elway, and could cover with the best. made alot of plays on STs too! I think he was a even better PR/KR guy than a CB, myself! Really good!
I would put Darrell Green ahead of him simply because he could do it all, and he was the complete player. Played forever too.
1 Green
2 Champ
3 Wright
4 Neon ( i like to mispell)

Cito Pelon · 07-02-2008, 07:39 PM

There's been so many good corners in the NFl it's hard to rank the top 10 all time, seeings how the rules change so often also. Champ diminished himself in my eyes in the AFCCG at Mile High in 2006. He missed that easy pick 6 in the first Q, then got suckered for 2 TD's. Maybe my memory is faulty, did Champ get attacked for 2 TD's or only one in that game? Champ is pretty darn good though. Definitely a guy you want on your team. If he can avg 8 picks/yr for the next 5 yrs he has the NFL record for INT's.

Here's where Champ ranks right now:

Rank Player (age), + - HOFer, Bold - Active Int Years Teams
1. Paul Krause+ 81 1964-1979 2TM
2. Emlen Tunnell+ 79 1948-1961 2TM
3. Rod Woodson 71 1987-2003 4TM
4. Night Train Lane+ 68 1952-1965 3TM
5. Ken Riley 65 1969-1983 cin
6. Ronnie Lott+ 63 1981-1994 3TM
7. Dave Brown 62 1975-1989 3TM
Dick LeBeau 62 1959-1972 det
9. Emmitt Thomas+ 58 1966-1978 kan
10. Mel Blount+ 57 1970-1983 pit
Bobby Boyd 57 1960-1968 clt
Eugene Robinson 57 1985-2000 4TM
Johnny Robinson 57 1960-1971 kan
Everson Walls 57 1981-1993 3TM
15. Lem Barney+ 56 1967-1977 det
Pat Fischer 56 1961-1977 2TM
17. Aeneas Williams 55 1991-2004 2TM
18. Eric Allen 54 1988-2001 3TM
Willie Brown+ 54 1963-1978 2TM
Darrell Green+ 54 1983-2002 was
21. Deion Sanders 53 1989-2005 5TM
Darren Sharper (32) 53 1997-2007 2TM
23. Larry Wilson+ 52 1960-1972 crd
Mel Renfro+ 52 1964-1977 dal
Jimmy Patton 52 1955-1966 nyg
Ty Law (33) 52 1995-2007 3TM
Bobby Dillon 52 1952-1959 gnb
Jack Butler 52 1951-1959 pit
29. Bobby Bryant 51 1968-1980 min
Donnie Shell 51 1974-1987 pit
31. Yale Lary+ 50 1952-1964 det
John Harris 50 1978-1988 2TM
Deron Cherry 50 1981-1991 kan
Don Burroughs 50 1955-1964 2TM
Terrell Buckley 50 1992-2005 6TM
36. Ken Houston+ 49 1967-1980 2TM
Jake Scott 49 1970-1978 2TM
38. Willie Wood+ 48 1960-1971 gnb
Dave Waymer 48 1980-1992 3TM
Richie Petitbon 48 1959-1972 3TM
Dave Grayson 48 1961-1970 2TM
Herb Adderley+ 48 1961-1972 2TM
43. Ray Buchanan 47 1993-2004 3TM
Jimmy Johnson+ 47 1961-1976 sfo
Lemar Parrish 47 1970-1982 3TM
Troy Vincent 47 1992-2006 4TM
47. Dave Whitsell 46 1958-1969 3TM
Eddie Meador 46 1959-1970 ram
Mike Haynes+ 46 1976-1989 2TM
Goose Gonsoulin 46 1960-1967 2TM
Jack Christiansen+ 46 1951-1958 det
52. Erich Barnes 45 1958-1971 3TM
Thom Darden 45 1972-1981 cle
James Hasty 45 1988-2001 3TM
Jim Norton 45 1960-1968 oti
56. Steve Foley 44 1976-1986 den
Warren Lahr 44 1949-1959 cle
58. Cris Dishman 43 1988-2000 4TM
Kermit Alexander 43 1963-1973 3TM
60. Ashley Ambrose 42 1992-2004 4TM
Champ Bailey (29) 42 1999-2007 2TM
Gill Byrd 42 1983-1992 sdg

Go get 'em Champ.

07-02-2008, 07:39 PM	#15
Cito Pelon Attack at all times . . . Happy dog at the Divide Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: AFC West Championshipville Posts: 15,194 Adopt-a-Bronco: Elvis	There's been so many good corners in the NFl it's hard to rank the top 10 all time, seeings how the rules change so often also. Champ diminished himself in my eyes in the AFCCG at Mile High in 2006. He missed that easy pick 6 in the first Q, then got suckered for 2 TD's. Maybe my memory is faulty, did Champ get attacked for 2 TD's or only one in that game? Champ is pretty darn good though. Definitely a guy you want on your team. If he can avg 8 picks/yr for the next 5 yrs he has the NFL record for INT's. Here's where Champ ranks right now: Rank Player (age), + - HOFer, Bold - Active Int Years Teams 1. Paul Krause+ 81 1964-1979 2TM 2. Emlen Tunnell+ 79 1948-1961 2TM 3. Rod Woodson 71 1987-2003 4TM 4. Night Train Lane+ 68 1952-1965 3TM 5. Ken Riley 65 1969-1983 cin 6. Ronnie Lott+ 63 1981-1994 3TM 7. Dave Brown 62 1975-1989 3TM Dick LeBeau 62 1959-1972 det 9. Emmitt Thomas+ 58 1966-1978 kan 10. Mel Blount+ 57 1970-1983 pit Bobby Boyd 57 1960-1968 clt Eugene Robinson 57 1985-2000 4TM Johnny Robinson 57 1960-1971 kan Everson Walls 57 1981-1993 3TM 15. Lem Barney+ 56 1967-1977 det Pat Fischer 56 1961-1977 2TM 17. Aeneas Williams 55 1991-2004 2TM 18. Eric Allen 54 1988-2001 3TM Willie Brown+ 54 1963-1978 2TM Darrell Green+ 54 1983-2002 was 21. Deion Sanders 53 1989-2005 5TM Darren Sharper (32) 53 1997-2007 2TM 23. Larry Wilson+ 52 1960-1972 crd Mel Renfro+ 52 1964-1977 dal Jimmy Patton 52 1955-1966 nyg Ty Law (33) 52 1995-2007 3TM Bobby Dillon 52 1952-1959 gnb Jack Butler 52 1951-1959 pit 29. Bobby Bryant 51 1968-1980 min Donnie Shell 51 1974-1987 pit 31. Yale Lary+ 50 1952-1964 det John Harris 50 1978-1988 2TM Deron Cherry 50 1981-1991 kan Don Burroughs 50 1955-1964 2TM Terrell Buckley 50 1992-2005 6TM 36. Ken Houston+ 49 1967-1980 2TM Jake Scott 49 1970-1978 2TM 38. Willie Wood+ 48 1960-1971 gnb Dave Waymer 48 1980-1992 3TM Richie Petitbon 48 1959-1972 3TM Dave Grayson 48 1961-1970 2TM Herb Adderley+ 48 1961-1972 2TM 43. Ray Buchanan 47 1993-2004 3TM Jimmy Johnson+ 47 1961-1976 sfo Lemar Parrish 47 1970-1982 3TM Troy Vincent 47 1992-2006 4TM 47. Dave Whitsell 46 1958-1969 3TM Eddie Meador 46 1959-1970 ram Mike Haynes+ 46 1976-1989 2TM Goose Gonsoulin 46 1960-1967 2TM Jack Christiansen+ 46 1951-1958 det 52. Erich Barnes 45 1958-1971 3TM Thom Darden 45 1972-1981 cle James Hasty 45 1988-2001 3TM Jim Norton 45 1960-1968 oti 56. Steve Foley 44 1976-1986 den Warren Lahr 44 1949-1959 cle 58. Cris Dishman 43 1988-2000 4TM Kermit Alexander 43 1963-1973 3TM 60. Ashley Ambrose 42 1992-2004 4TM Champ Bailey (29) 42 1999-2007 2TM Gill Byrd 42 1983-1992 sdg Go get 'em Champ. Last edited by Cito Pelon; 07-02-2008 at 07:41 PM..

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07-02-2008, 09:07 AM	#1
TheReverend www.PatrickTurley.org ^ buy this... twice Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 33,010 Adopt-a-Bronco: Mike Shanahan	USA today on Corners past and present http://www.usatoday.com/sports/footb...nerbacks_N.htm Champ #1 for current corners, and currently ranked #9 for all time... I think many of the voters weren't sure if he was eligible for the all-time list yet... expect that to spike into the top 3 all time minimum when he retires.

07-02-2008, 09:18 AM	#3
broncs2bowl Ring of Famer ^Club of Death^ Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,184 Adopt-a-Bronco: DJ Williams	Its in my sig baby

07-02-2008, 09:24 AM	#4
broncofan2438 Faneco this... LETS TAKE BACK THE AFC WEST Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: California Posts: 6,302 Adopt-a-Bronco: ERIC DECKER	Thats my boy

07-02-2008, 09:35 AM	#5
worm Great moments are born... ...from great opportunity Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 3,947 Adopt-a-Bronco: #20	He deserves a Ring.

07-02-2008, 09:52 AM	#7
socalorado Ring of Famer Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 5,211	We are talking about football players right?!?!? Allow me... Darrell Green. Like Junior Seau at No. 20, cornerback Darrell Green became an NFL institution by spending so many years in the NFL that it was hard to remember when he first arrived. In Green's case, he joined the Redskins in 1983 -- and spent 20 seasons with the same team. For a guy whose ongoing employment hinges on speed and agility, the fact that he could remain on the one squad's roster for 20 seasons is amazing. The reality that 10 of those seasons came in the free-agency era, which has resulted in many a veteran being purged from his team prematurely, boggles the mind. Along the way, Green won two Super Bowl rings, and played a key role in the march to the team's 1987 NFL championship with a game-changing punt return against the Bears. At a mere 5-9, Green was for years one of the fastest players in the NFL, winning on multiple occasions a made-for-TV sprinting competition with other fleet-footed football players. Green most certainly will land in the Hall of Fame in 2008, his first year of eligibility. He deserves it, and he definitely deserves a spot among the best 25 players of the past 25 years. He might just be one of the best 25 ever. http://www.profootballtalk.com/No19Green.htm I know it florio, but its his best work hes ever written. At least he got this one right for once. Heres Green chasing down one of the fastest players in NFL history as a rookie. yeah, a complete football player. Just click on the clip you want. http://www.darrellgreen.com/for_the_...all_clips.html Does anyone have any similiar clips on "Neon" making plays like this? or even tackling, ever?

07-02-2008, 09:57 AM	#8
yerner Ring of Famer Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Charlottesville VA Posts: 3,304	Yeah DG is classic. But I guess I'm a homer cause I seriously think Champ Bailey is the best corner ever.

07-02-2008, 09:59 AM	#9
Dr. Broncenstein Overdriven Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Sterile Fields Posts: 11,619 Adopt-a-Bronco: Wesley Woodyard	An all-time Broncos corner list would be pretty fierce with Champ Bailey and Louis Wright.

07-02-2008, 10:01 AM	#10
epicSocialism4tw Tebowing the long haul all the way to the title Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: TX, USA Posts: 37,072 Adopt-a-Bronco: Champ Bailey	Champ is the best I have ever seen.

07-02-2008, 01:17 PM	#11
BroncosinDC Now Live From Baltimore! True Men have Facial Hair Join Date: May 2008 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 530 Adopt-a-Bronco: Kyle Orton	We should make this a tradition we draft a running back use him for a few years pad his numbers a bit and trade him to the Skins for a CB who has just enough experience to be done with growing pains and be the best in the game. It seems that between DG and Champ they draft CB's well.

07-02-2008, 03:55 PM	#13
CoopDawg Seasoned Veteran McCaffrey Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Broncos Country Posts: 310	Champ will only get to the top of that list by winning and getting picks in the Super Bowl.