Mike Shanahan--Here ya go Wolf - The Orange Mane

TheReverend · 07-01-2008, 01:02 PM

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/8...es-on-hot-seat

Mike Shanahan: — Shanahan won a recent power struggle with ousted general manager Ted Sundquist. It's a pressure-packed year in Denver, but even if the Broncos win eight games or less, Shanahan's head won't roll.

Whenever you are debating whether or not to fire a coach, an owner always asks if the club can do better. Fact is, it is impossible to do better than Shanahan. He's 130-78 in 13 seasons. Shanahan has the two Super Bowl championships. That's what you call a Hall of Fame-type resume. And I don't want to hear that he had John Elway back then and it was Elway who delivered Shanahan his rings. Shanahan got Elway to realize the team went through Terrell Davis. And I don't want to hear people question what he's done since Elway. Shanahan has chalked up four of his seven double-digit win seasons since No. 7 retired. Shanahan is one of the brightest minds in all of football.

While Denver owner Pat Bowlen talked about how important 2008 was when the club axed Sundquist, Shanahan recently told me he feels no extra pressure. And he shouldn't. Shanahan will be the coach as long as Bowlen owns the team.

It isn't Shanahan's fault that Brandon Marshall continues to show immaturity. And while you can question some of his moves as the head of personnel (Maurice Clarett was a terrible idea, as was the entire Browns defensive line), make sure to also give Shanahan credit for the trades that equaled Champ Bailey and Dre Bly, plus the golden 2006 draft of franchise quarterback Jay Cutler, Elvis Dumervil, Tony Scheffler, and Marshall, who despite his off-field issues has the makings of a future Pro Bowl receiver.

Flex Gunmetal · 07-01-2008, 01:04 PM

I do want to see what his response will be, but I don't think I can bring myself to take him off ignore.

broncosteven · 07-01-2008, 01:04 PM

Herm has one of the Dimest minds in all of football.

TheReverend · 07-01-2008, 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flex Gunmetal

I do want to see what his response will be, but I don't think I can bring myself to take him off ignore.

I'll quote his first message only, just for you.

TheReverend · 07-01-2008, 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by broncosteven

Herm has one of the Dimest minds in all of football.

He can create a fairly solid defense out of thin air. If he wasn't completely clueless on the offensive side of the ball, he'd probably be very much in demand.

bronco militia · 07-01-2008, 01:08 PM

DomCasual · 07-01-2008, 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flex Gunmetal

I do want to see what his response will be, but I don't think I can bring myself to take him off ignore.

Northman · 07-01-2008, 01:22 PM

Lies! Lies!

SonOfLe-loLang · 07-01-2008, 01:25 PM

I still dont understand why the Browns D-line was a terrible idea. That D-line lead us to a 13-3 season and a spot in the AFC championship. Its not like the broke the bank for any of them, with the exception of Warren (who id like back by the way). Perhaps it stunted development of others, but it wasnt a terrible mistake

TheReverend · 07-01-2008, 01:26 PM

We're all just homers! Adam Schein is lying about being a life-long giants fan... he's a HUGE Bronco homer.

wolf754life · 07-01-2008, 01:30 PM

its like i'm the guy standing in front of the tank in Tiananmen Square, i know i'm outnumbered, outgunned, and my arguments are very likely to fall on deaf ears. That still doesn't stop me from believing that this franchise is stale and needs a new start.

Shannahan and his stats were great in the 90's, but since the early 2000's he hasn't done jack...........his personnel and his coaching decisions have been very poor to flat out unacceptable............

I understand as well as anyone that shannahan and bowlen are together for eternity.... but that doesn't stop me from calling for change. I am a bronco fan, will continue to be, and if shannahan can turn things around then I will be the first person to praise him...............

but until he does, I will be standing with my posterboard tied around my neck standing in front of that homer colored tank defending my views!

flame away fan boys! we are going 6 and 10 next year...........no way this team wins 9 games, 8 is possible with luck, 6 yo 7 wins max.......

PLOWHORSE · 07-01-2008, 01:43 PM

Plus you still can't even spell his name!! Its not spelled Shannahan you dimwit!

TheReverend · 07-01-2008, 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolf754life

its like i'm the guy standing in front of the tank in Tiananmen Square, i know i'm outnumbered, outgunned, and my arguments are very likely to fall on deaf ears. That still doesn't stop me from believing that this franchise is stale and needs a new start.

Shannahan and his stats were great in the 90's, but since the early 2000's he hasn't done jack...........his personnel and his coaching decisions have been very poor to flat out unacceptable............

I understand as well as anyone that shannahan and bowlen are together for eternity.... but that doesn't stop me from calling for change. I am a bronco fan, will continue to be, and if shannahan can turn things around then I will be the first person to praise him...............

but until he does, I will be standing with my posterboard tied around my neck standing in front of that homer colored tank defending my views!

flame away fan boys! we are going 6 and 10 next year...........no way this team wins 9 games, 8 is possible with luck, 6 yo 7 wins max.......

"Shanahan has chalked up four of his seven double-digit win seasons since No. 7 retired. Shanahan is one of the brightest minds in all of football."

Also, if you go through your post history, you've been calling for, and agreed with nearly EVERY personnel decision he's made... so what's your problem?

There ya go, Flex!

vancejohnson82 · 07-01-2008, 01:47 PM

wolf....shanahan brought a talent deficient team to the AFC Championship three years ago with great offensive schemes and personnel decisions

so he has done something in the 2000s

bowtown · 07-01-2008, 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolf754life

I am a bronco fan, will continue to be, and if shannahan can turn things around then I will be the first person to praise him...............

Say hello to my new signature!

telluride · 07-01-2008, 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vancejohnson82

wolf....shanahan brought a talent deficient team to the AFC Championship three years ago with great offensive schemes and personnel decisions

so he has done something in the 2000s

That game was on NFL network last night. Made me very melancholy for some reason. It seems so long ago, and the team has changed so much. And yet it was only three years ago. Amazing.

vancejohnson82 · 07-01-2008, 01:53 PM

telluride,

easily one of hte most disappointing Sundays I've ever spent watching football

the Champ "INT TD THAT WASNT" on the first drive sums up the whole game

broncosteven · 07-01-2008, 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolf754life

its like i'm the guy standing in front of the tank in Tiananmen Square, i know i'm outnumbered, outgunned, and my arguments are very likely to fall on deaf ears. That still doesn't stop me from believing that this franchise is stale and needs a new start.

Shannahan and his stats were great in the 90's, but since the early 2000's he hasn't done jack...........his personnel and his coaching decisions have been very poor to flat out unacceptable............

I understand as well as anyone that shannahan and bowlen are together for eternity.... but that doesn't stop me from calling for change. I am a bronco fan, will continue to be, and if shannahan can turn things around then I will be the first person to praise him...............

but until he does, I will be standing with my posterboard tied around my neck standing in front of that homer colored tank defending my views!

flame away fan boys! we are going 6 and 10 next year...........no way this team wins 9 games, 8 is possible with luck, 6 yo 7 wins max.......

2005 was pretty nice considering who we had for a QB...

bronco militia · 07-01-2008, 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by telluride

That game was on NFL network last night. Made me very melancholy for some reason. It seems so long ago, and the team has changed so much. And yet it was only three years ago. Amazing.

minus the drafts, the 2006-2007 offseasons were just flat out brutal when it came to personnel.

watermock · 07-01-2008, 01:57 PM

It's looking more and more like Sundy was the right eject button.

DarkHorse30 · 07-01-2008, 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolf754life

its like i'm the guy standing in front of the tank in Tiananmen Square, i know i'm outnumbered, outgunned, and my arguments are very likely to fall on deaf ears. That still doesn't stop me from believing that this franchise is stale and needs a new start.

Shannahan and his stats were great in the 90's, but since the early 2000's he hasn't done jack...........his personnel and his coaching decisions have been very poor to flat out unacceptable............

I understand as well as anyone that shannahan and bowlen are together for eternity.... but that doesn't stop me from calling for change. I am a bronco fan, will continue to be, and if shannahan can turn things around then I will be the first person to praise him...............

but until he does, I will be standing with my posterboard tied around my neck standing in front of that homer colored tank defending my views!

flame away fan boys! we are going 6 and 10 next year...........no way this team wins 9 games, 8 is possible with luck, 6 yo 7 wins max.......

Name your replacement coach. Obama?

cmhargrove · 07-01-2008, 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolf754life

its like i'm the guy standing in front of the tank in Tiananmen Square, i know i'm outnumbered, outgunned, and my arguments are very likely to fall on deaf ears. That still doesn't stop me from believing that this franchise is stale and needs a new start.

Shannahan and his stats were great in the 90's, but since the early 2000's he hasn't done jack...........his personnel and his coaching decisions have been very poor to flat out unacceptable............

I understand as well as anyone that shannahan and bowlen are together for eternity.... but that doesn't stop me from calling for change. I am a bronco fan, will continue to be, and if shannahan can turn things around then I will be the first person to praise him...............

but until he does, I will be standing with my posterboard tied around my neck standing in front of that homer colored tank defending my views!

flame away fan boys! we are going 6 and 10 next year...........no way this team wins 9 games, 8 is possible with luck, 6 yo 7 wins max.......

That guy in Tiananmen square had lots of people cheering him on, you might pick another metaphor...

TheReverend · 07-01-2008, 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmhargrove

That guy in Tiananmen square had lots of people cheering him on, you might pick another metaphor...

Agree, but he definitely needs to leave in the "being outgunned" in a battle of wits part.

SonOfLe-loLang · 07-01-2008, 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vancejohnson82

telluride,

easily one of hte most disappointing Sundays I've ever spent watching football

the Champ "INT TD THAT WASNT" on the first drive sums up the whole game

That play still haunts me.

TheReverend · 07-01-2008, 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SonOfLe-loLang

That play still haunts me.

Nick Ferguson's complete void of ability still haunts me.

07-01-2008, 01:02 PM	#1
TheReverend www.PatrickTurley.org ^ buy this... twice Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 32,987 Adopt-a-Bronco: Mike Shanahan	Mike Shanahan--Here ya go Wolf http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/8...es-on-hot-seat Mike Shanahan: — Shanahan won a recent power struggle with ousted general manager Ted Sundquist. It's a pressure-packed year in Denver, but even if the Broncos win eight games or less, Shanahan's head won't roll. Whenever you are debating whether or not to fire a coach, an owner always asks if the club can do better. Fact is, it is impossible to do better than Shanahan. He's 130-78 in 13 seasons. Shanahan has the two Super Bowl championships. That's what you call a Hall of Fame-type resume. And I don't want to hear that he had John Elway back then and it was Elway who delivered Shanahan his rings. Shanahan got Elway to realize the team went through Terrell Davis. And I don't want to hear people question what he's done since Elway. Shanahan has chalked up four of his seven double-digit win seasons since No. 7 retired. Shanahan is one of the brightest minds in all of football. While Denver owner Pat Bowlen talked about how important 2008 was when the club axed Sundquist, Shanahan recently told me he feels no extra pressure. And he shouldn't. Shanahan will be the coach as long as Bowlen owns the team. It isn't Shanahan's fault that Brandon Marshall continues to show immaturity. And while you can question some of his moves as the head of personnel (Maurice Clarett was a terrible idea, as was the entire Browns defensive line), make sure to also give Shanahan credit for the trades that equaled Champ Bailey and Dre Bly, plus the golden 2006 draft of franchise quarterback Jay Cutler, Elvis Dumervil, Tony Scheffler, and Marshall, who despite his off-field issues has the makings of a future Pro Bowl receiver.

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07-01-2008, 01:04 PM	#2
Flex Gunmetal Icy Fresh Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: COLORADO Posts: 3,031 Adopt-a-Bronco: Francis Daytona	I do want to see what his response will be, but I don't think I can bring myself to take him off ignore.

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broncosteven The Kranz Dictum MWA: Flight Director Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Tranquility Base Posts: 29,028 Adopt-a-Bronco: MONEYBALL #38	Herm has one of the Dimest minds in all of football.

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Northman The Enigma Prognosis Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Maryland Posts: 17,925 Adopt-a-Bronco: Bryci	Lies! Lies!

07-01-2008, 01:25 PM	#9
SonOfLe-loLang Young Buck Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 13,217 Adopt-a-Bronco: Thunder (RIP)	I still dont understand why the Browns D-line was a terrible idea. That D-line lead us to a 13-3 season and a spot in the AFC championship. Its not like the broke the bank for any of them, with the exception of Warren (who id like back by the way). Perhaps it stunted development of others, but it wasnt a terrible mistake

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TheReverend www.PatrickTurley.org ^ buy this... twice Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 32,987 Adopt-a-Bronco: Mike Shanahan	We're all just homers! Adam Schein is lying about being a life-long giants fan... he's a HUGE Bronco homer.

07-01-2008, 01:30 PM	#11
wolf754life Bleed Orange and Blue more scoring + more tackling = $$$ Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,776	its like i'm the guy standing in front of the tank in Tiananmen Square, i know i'm outnumbered, outgunned, and my arguments are very likely to fall on deaf ears. That still doesn't stop me from believing that this franchise is stale and needs a new start. Shannahan and his stats were great in the 90's, but since the early 2000's he hasn't done jack...........his personnel and his coaching decisions have been very poor to flat out unacceptable............ I understand as well as anyone that shannahan and bowlen are together for eternity.... but that doesn't stop me from calling for change. I am a bronco fan, will continue to be, and if shannahan can turn things around then I will be the first person to praise him............... but until he does, I will be standing with my posterboard tied around my neck standing in front of that homer colored tank defending my views! flame away fan boys! we are going 6 and 10 next year...........no way this team wins 9 games, 8 is possible with luck, 6 yo 7 wins max.......

07-01-2008, 01:43 PM	#12
PLOWHORSE Who wants LOBSTER!!! Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 711 Adopt-a-Bronco: Is FONECO taken	Plus you still can't even spell his name!! Its not spelled Shannahan you dimwit!

07-01-2008, 01:47 PM	#14
vancejohnson82 Drama and Mediocrity I'm Afraid of Ty Law Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Newark, NJ Posts: 5,990 Adopt-a-Bronco: DJ	wolf....shanahan brought a talent deficient team to the AFC Championship three years ago with great offensive schemes and personnel decisions so he has done something in the 2000s

07-01-2008, 01:53 PM	#17
vancejohnson82 Drama and Mediocrity I'm Afraid of Ty Law Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Newark, NJ Posts: 5,990 Adopt-a-Bronco: DJ	telluride, easily one of hte most disappointing Sundays I've ever spent watching football the Champ "INT TD THAT WASNT" on the first drive sums up the whole game

07-01-2008, 01:57 PM	#20
watermock "Hoodie Jr" "Hug me!" Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Hot Springs, Ouachitah Posts: 77,090	It's looking more and more like Sundy was the right eject button.