Oakland's CB tandem No. 1? Insiders rank five better - The Orange Mane

dragondawg · 06-22-2008, 07:19 AM

http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/10870259

Hogan11 · 06-22-2008, 09:11 AM

...and to nobody's surprise, Denver is one of those teams.

I love this quote BTW (I'm such a sucker for a Chad Johnson slam):

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Hall is erratic and unreliable -- a talented player who thinks he's better than he is and who is coming off two subpar seasons.

"He's the Chad Johnson of defense," said one NFL assistant. "He's too far gone to know he's gone."

400HZ · 06-22-2008, 04:50 PM

If you had told me two years ago that San Diego would be making any "best cornerbacks" lists in the near future, I would have laughed in your face.

Drek · 06-22-2008, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by 400HZ

If you had told me two years ago that San Diego would be making any "best cornerbacks" lists in the near future, I would have laughed in your face.

I still laugh about it.

Cromartie built his season off a single horrible game by Manning. If it wasn't for that he doesn't get nearly the pub.

And Jammer really is just league average. Cromartie could be special, but a single awesome game doesn't make him special.

kmonty · 06-22-2008, 05:18 PM

Cromartie had one amazing game and several big plays. 10 picks is nothing to sniff at, but those who watch the coverage every down can see that Bailey is clearly, CLEARLY better and more consistent. That's what he needs to work on, is his consistency.

What bothers me more about the comparison in the article is saying that Cromartie is only a few steps away from Bailey. Even when recognized as "The Best", Bailey is vastly underrated.

Inkana7 · 06-22-2008, 05:23 PM

"BUT IF U KOUNT DA SAFETIES, OAKLAND IS #1!!!11!!"

kmonty · 06-22-2008, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Inkana7

"BUT IF U KOUNT DA SAFETIES, OAKLAND IS #1!!!11!!"

Broncos4Life · 06-22-2008, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by kmonty

Cromartie had one amazing game and several big plays. 10 picks is nothing to sniff at, but those who watch the coverage every down can see that Bailey is clearly, CLEARLY better and more consistent. That's what he needs to work on, is his consistency.

What bothers me more about the comparison in the article is saying that Cromartie is only a few steps away from Bailey. Even when recognized as "The Best", Bailey is vastly underrated.

Umm didn't Deltha O'Neal have one of those seasons too? I'm not 100% sold on Martie yet.

Broncos4Life · 06-22-2008, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Inkana7

"BUT IF U KOUNT DA SAFETIES, OAKLAND IS #1!!!11!!"

Especially when you count in Wilson from the Giants. Dere gonna win da west go to da superbowl!

tsiguy96 · 06-22-2008, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Broncos4Life

Umm didn't Deltha O'Neal have one of those seasons too? I'm not 100% sold on Martie yet.

werd, it would be nice if people look for any sort of consistency for rating people as high as they do. people saying AP is all sorts of amazing is still funny to me, he had a great year but lets see him do it a few more times, then ill be sold.

Kaylore · 06-22-2008, 06:54 PM

Michael Huff has been a big disappointment. I think even counting the safeties the Fade are a far cry from number 1.

I'll say it again, every draft class of Oakland's has been garbage. I said it last year when everyone was yammering about what a wonderful draft they had and it's bust all the way for them. I don't like their selections this year either. Al Davis doesn't know how to draft football players. He drafts athletes.

Pat Bowlen · 06-22-2008, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by tsiguy96

werd, it would be nice if people look for any sort of consistency for rating people as high as they do. people saying AP is all sorts of amazing is still funny to me, he had a great year but lets see him do it a few more times, then ill be sold.

His talent is on a level apparent enough to everyone that it's fair to say he's amazing. I'm not sure if the same sort of analysis on consistency works when comparing someone like AP to Cromartie, though, based on the positions they play.

nickademus · 06-22-2008, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaylore

Michael Huff has been a big disappointment. I think even counting the safeties the Fade are a far cry from number 1.

I'll say it again, every draft class of Oakland's has been garbage. I said it last year when everyone was yammering about what a wonderful draft they had and it's bust all the way for them. I don't like their selections this year either. Al Davis doesn't know how to draft football players. He drafts athletes.

I completely agree as usual. The problem with davis is he is all flash and no substance and I for one hope he lives forever!!!!!!

NYC Bronco · 06-23-2008, 09:28 AM

Didn't Cromartie also take a FG back for TD......I bet that is feeding the hype too.

Sic athlete, no Champ.

fdf · 06-23-2008, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaylore

Michael Huff has been a big disappointment. I think even counting the safeties the Fade are a far cry from number 1.

I thought it was a great pick. When the raiders reached for him, Denver moved up one spot in the draft. Between them, the Raiders and Detroit made it possible for us to get Cutler.

400HZ · 06-23-2008, 03:20 PM

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Didn't Cromartie also take a FG back for TD......I bet that is feeding the hype too.

Sic athlete, no Champ.

Eight starts and ten picks. Then two more off Peyton and Brady in the postseason. That generates excitement. Don't be jealous!!

eddie mac · 06-23-2008, 04:47 PM

When you compare the Packers and Chargers pass rush/front 7 to the Broncos, Champ and Dre would win this thing hands down. Lot more difficult to cover receivers when all we had was Elvis last year never mind the fact both of them had one eye on the RB every down.

Mountain Bronco · 06-23-2008, 04:59 PM

What really cracks me up is that all these people believe the "Athlete Formerly Known as Pacman" is a great corner. He was a good return man, but I don't remember him being great as a corner. Average at best.

Broncos4Life · 06-23-2008, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by tsiguy96

werd, it would be nice if people look for any sort of consistency for rating people as high as they do. people saying AP is all sorts of amazing is still funny to me, he had a great year but lets see him do it a few more times, then ill be sold.

Well, AP for the most part looks to be the part. But a lot of players get hyped up and when you talk media, its mostly espins fault. This network and its analysts jump on and off teams all season. The Vince young infatuation is another example. And then you see how the 3 QBs are ranked in Madden, in this order:
Young, Cutler, Leinart. That is a ****in joke too, and everyone knows it.

TheChamp24 · 06-23-2008, 09:47 PM

Well, Madden's ratings are screwed up to begin with.

I do agree that I think its funny how when the media hypes someone up, then all of a sudden they can become complete studs when they aren't near that ability yet.
I hate the hype Deangelo Hall got, the hype Reggie Bush got, the hype Vince Young gets, the hype Cromartie gets and of course, many other players too.

And Pacman, I remember people saying he was a solid/decent CB, but nothing extraordinary. Someone you would like to have, but not an All Pro CB. Now he is a Cowboy, he's getting hyped up.

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06-22-2008, 07:19 AM	#1
dragondawg All Pro Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 2,009	Oakland's CB tandem No. 1? Insiders rank five better http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/10870259

06-22-2008, 04:50 PM	#3
400HZ Ring of Famer Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 4,342 Adopt-a-Bronco: Ed Hochuli	If you had told me two years ago that San Diego would be making any "best cornerbacks" lists in the near future, I would have laughed in your face.

06-22-2008, 05:18 PM	#5
kmonty BT Blogger Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Flagstaff, AZ Posts: 1,113 Adopt-a-Bronco: Sweet Feet	Cromartie had one amazing game and several big plays. 10 picks is nothing to sniff at, but those who watch the coverage every down can see that Bailey is clearly, CLEARLY better and more consistent. That's what he needs to work on, is his consistency. What bothers me more about the comparison in the article is saying that Cromartie is only a few steps away from Bailey. Even when recognized as "The Best", Bailey is vastly underrated.

06-22-2008, 05:23 PM	#6
Inkana7 Ring of Famer Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 8,230 Adopt-a-Bronco: Derek Wolfe	"BUT IF U KOUNT DA SAFETIES, OAKLAND IS #1!!!11!!"

06-22-2008, 06:54 PM	#11
Kaylore 6-37, Raider fans. Yummy birds and snow! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Ceti Alpha V Posts: 41,013 Adopt-a-Bronco: Wesley Duke	Michael Huff has been a big disappointment. I think even counting the safeties the Fade are a far cry from number 1. I'll say it again, every draft class of Oakland's has been garbage. I said it last year when everyone was yammering about what a wonderful draft they had and it's bust all the way for them. I don't like their selections this year either. Al Davis doesn't know how to draft football players. He drafts athletes.

06-23-2008, 09:28 AM	#14
NYC Bronco Solid Starter New to the Forum Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 150 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	Didn't Cromartie also take a FG back for TD......I bet that is feeding the hype too. Sic athlete, no Champ.

06-23-2008, 04:47 PM	#17
eddie mac Ireland's No1 Bronco Eddie Mac 87 gone but never forgott Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: IRELAND Posts: 15,572 Adopt-a-Bronco: Rod Smith	When you compare the Packers and Chargers pass rush/front 7 to the Broncos, Champ and Dre would win this thing hands down. Lot more difficult to cover receivers when all we had was Elvis last year never mind the fact both of them had one eye on the RB every down.

06-23-2008, 04:59 PM	#18
Mountain Bronco Ring of Famer Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: The Mountains Posts: 1,446	What really cracks me up is that all these people believe the "Athlete Formerly Known as Pacman" is a great corner. He was a good return man, but I don't remember him being great as a corner. Average at best.

06-23-2008, 09:47 PM	#20
TheChamp24 DERP DERP DERP The Legend Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Broncos Country Posts: 4,874	Well, Madden's ratings are screwed up to begin with. I do agree that I think its funny how when the media hypes someone up, then all of a sudden they can become complete studs when they aren't near that ability yet. I hate the hype Deangelo Hall got, the hype Reggie Bush got, the hype Vince Young gets, the hype Cromartie gets and of course, many other players too. And Pacman, I remember people saying he was a solid/decent CB, but nothing extraordinary. Someone you would like to have, but not an All Pro CB. Now he is a Cowboy, he's getting hyped up.