WSJ's top 10 athletes. - The Orange Mane

Flex Gunmetal · 06-20-2008, 12:16 PM

http://online.wsj.com/public/resourc...REATEST08.html
Don't know why WSJ is an authority, but what are your thoughts?
IMO there should be more hockey and soccer players.

2KBack · 06-20-2008, 12:21 PM

looks like they purposefully didn't repeat sports, otherwise the list would probably have been dominated decathaletes and the like.

socalorado · 06-20-2008, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by 2KBack

looks like they purposefully didn't repeat sports, otherwise the list would probably have been dominated decathaletes and the like.

Yeah, how can a list with one respective player from each sport have more than one soccer player?

SJ Bronco · 06-20-2008, 12:40 PM

why are soccer players on the list? They play a 12 y/o girls game.

epicSocialism4tw · 06-20-2008, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Flex Gunmetal

http://online.wsj.com/public/resourc...REATEST08.html
Don't know why WSJ is an authority, but what are your thoughts?
IMO there should be more hockey and soccer players.

Chesea's Didier Drogba and Man U's Wayne Rooney are every bit of the freak that LeBron James is. Big. Strong. Fast. Skilled.

Christiano Ronaldo is probably the best athlete in world football right now.

It's hard to choose in world football because there are so many great athletes in so many places.

Inkana7 · 06-20-2008, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by SJ Bronco

why are soccer players on the list? They play a 12 y/o girls game.

It's been estimated that Soccer players run about 7 miles a game, or something like that. Most of that is sprinting.

SJ Bronco · 06-20-2008, 12:53 PM

A-rod, really? He may be a good ball player, but I can think of at least 12 more "athletic" baseball players off the top of my head.

Flex Gunmetal · 06-20-2008, 12:55 PM

ARod is silly, and thank god tiger didn't make it.

SJ Bronco · 06-20-2008, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Inkana7

It's been estimated that Soccer players run about 7 miles a game, or something like that. Most of that is sprinting.

Yeah, and cross country skiing is hard too, I don't see any of those guys. Just because it's good exercise, doesn't make it compelling or gritty entertainment. All SOCCER is, is a tradition. A boring one at that. I played it for 10 years, I know.

stugotsII · 06-20-2008, 12:57 PM

Soccer is terrible.

People think the NBA is full of floppers...check out a world cup match.

epicSocialism4tw · 06-20-2008, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by SJ Bronco

Yeah, and cross country skiing is hard too, I don't see any of those guys. Just because it's good exercise, doesn't make it compelling or gritty entertainment. All SOCCER is, is a tradition. A boring one at that. I played it for 10 years, I know.

I played it competitively for 18 years. I love it.

Just because you dont understand how people enjoy it doesnt give you the right to claim authority.

It's the greatest sport on the planet. The world agrees with me...not with you.

PRBronco · 06-20-2008, 12:59 PM

Bah, Sid's not the most athletic NHLer! Craziest skilled, yes. But I would be more tempted to say one of the agile two way power forwards like Iginla or Thornton, or possibly a D-man who logs 35+ minutes a game. 3 or 4 years ago it would have been Bertuzzi hands down

Flex Gunmetal · 06-20-2008, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by PRBronco

Bah, Sid's not the most athletic NHLer! Craziest skilled, yes. But I would be more tempted to say one of the agile two way power forwards like Iginla or Thornton, or possibly a D-man who logs 35+ minutes a game. 3 or 4 years ago it would have been Bertuzzi hands down

3 or 4 years ago Bertuzzi should have died in a hybrid car fire.

SJ Bronco · 06-20-2008, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by angryllama

I played it competitively for 18 years. I love it.

Just because you dont understand how people enjoy it doesnt give you the right to claim authority.

It's the greatest sport on the planet. The world agrees with me...not with you.

The world also thinks all americans weigh 300 pounds and can't spell their names. I like to think the majority is just a way of saying popular opinion, not fact. just because more people watch soccer, doesn't mean a damn thing to me. Enjoy your three hours of scoreless tie. You earned it.

lex · 06-20-2008, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by stugotsII

Soccer is terrible.

People think the NBA is full of floppers...check out a world cup match.

The difference is that at least in soccer you can get carded for flopping. Thats not so in the NBA.

epicSocialism4tw · 06-20-2008, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by SJ Bronco

The world also thinks all americans weigh 300 pounds and can't spell their names. I like to think the majority is just a way of saying popular opinion, not fact. just because more people watch soccer, doesn't mean a damn thing to me. Enjoy your three hours of scoreless tie. You earned it.

More people play soccer than watch soccer. Do you think that the Dinkas in Sudan are watching Euro 2008? No, but they are playing soccer barefooted on dirt and rocks with a ball made out of woven reeds.

Scoreless ties can be oustanding matches.

TDmvp · 06-20-2008, 01:09 PM

soccer sucks monkey balls .... it is like hockey minus the one thing that i think is a skill in either sport , the skating . it is like someone came along and said boy how can we make hockey even more unwatchable and some french guy most likely came up with playing it in the summer on grass not ice and lets take out all the violence cause we can't have that ... thank god in America we are so Ad driven that it can't be played on TV much cause there is not enuff stopages for ads and it just don't work ...

lex · 06-20-2008, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by TDmvp

soccer sucks monkey balls .... it is like hockey minus the one thing that i think is a skill in either sport , the skating . it is like someone came along and said boy how can we make hockey even more unwatchable and some french guy most likely came up with playing it in the summer on grass not ice and lets take out all the violence cause we can't have that ... thank god in America we are so Ad driven that it can't be played on TV much cause there is not enuff stopages for ads and it just don't work ...

Wow, you said a lot. A lot to pick apart there and yet some of it is frighteningly profound...especially the advertising comment.

SJ Bronco · 06-20-2008, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by angryllama

More people play soccer than watch soccer. Do you think that the Dinkas in Sudan are watching Euro 2008? No, but they are playing soccer barefooted on dirt and rocks with a ball made out of woven reeds.

Scoreless ties can be outstanding matches.

There are also kids in china bouncing basketballs on dirt. Kids in Canada tossing a pigskin on a frozen pond, whats your point? That poor people play soccer? I'd rather watch a three hour hanna montana marathon without commercial interruption (or salvation), then 20 euro's running around faking injuries. Besides, if soccer is so much fun to watch, then why are they burning down thier stadiums in boredom during the games. they sing, get drunk and throw things. Anything to not have to come to the realization that the game they paid to get into is boring as all hell.

epicSocialism4tw · 06-20-2008, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by SJ Bronco

There are also kids in china bouncing basketballs on dirt. Kids in Canada tossing a pigskin on a frozen pond, whats your point? That poor people play soccer? I'd rather watch a three hour hanna montana marathon without commercial interruption (or salvation), then 20 euro's running around faking injuries. Besides, if soccer is so much fun to watch, then why are they burning down thier stadiums in boredom during the games. they sing, get drunk and throw things. Anything to not have to come to the realization that the game they paid to get into is boring as all hell.

Lets see...so the most excited, passionate fans in the world go to the games because they are boring?

That's probably one of the most egregious examples of loony logic I have seen on this board, and that's saying alot.

TDmvp · 06-20-2008, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by lex

Wow, you said a lot. A lot to pick apart there and yet some of it is frighteningly profound...especially the advertising comment.

i seen a whole show on why Soccer isn't taking hold like wished in America and the way it is set ABC NBC and CBS hated it cause they didn't get enuff ad time outa it .... there is ways around that of course cause they do ad free tv sometimes on the big 3 and it is just brought to you by companies who take during the game scrolls and splash graphics insted of commercials .... but the big three just aint into it ..

broncofan7 · 06-20-2008, 01:24 PM

Having played sSccer, Football, Basketball and run track while growing up, I can say that SOCCER was the most physically demanding because of the constant running, and physicality of gaining position for the ball and the inability to use your hands. Football is certainly #2 with Bball and track tied at #3 in my personal experience. When you go to even an MLS match you see the physicality of the sport and it makes you appreciate the core strength that these athletes possess while perfoming tasks such as dribbling, crossing the ball, playing a lob with their head or chest, etc. Soccer is greatness and I hope to someday be able to attend a World cup game. PS--as a caveat, Golf is NOT a sport--it is like dart throwing or clay shooting, it takes coordination and dedication but that's it. If there is no running involved, it is NOT a sport.

TDmvp · 06-20-2008, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by angryllama

Lets see...so the most excited, passionate fans in the world go to the games because they are boring?

That's probably one of the most egregious examples of loony logic I have seen on this board, and that's saying alot.

you forgot also the most desperate for entertainment ... who get over excited over people running back and forth for 2 hours to the point they throw road flares at players and riot to they kill one another .... All for a sport where you can't tell when they score if it was ment to happen or just a accident ... just like hockey ...

broncs2bowl · 06-20-2008, 01:25 PM

thank god tiger woods is not on there

epicSocialism4tw · 06-20-2008, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by TDmvp

i seen a whole show on why Soccer isn't taking hold like wished in America and the way it is set ABC NBC and CBS hated it cause they didn't get enuff ad time outa it .... there is ways around that of course cause they do ad free tv sometimes on the big 3 and it is just brought to you by companies who take during the game scrolls and splash graphics insted of commercials .... but the big three just aint into it ..

There is truth in what youre saying here.

Its no wonder that ESPiN has tried to avoid the sport for years and have had their talking heads badmouth it incessantly.

In an increasingly global market, they are having to give the sport time.

06-20-2008, 12:16 PM	#1
Flex Gunmetal Icy Fresh Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: COLORADO Posts: 3,031 Adopt-a-Bronco: Francis Daytona	WSJ's top 10 athletes. http://online.wsj.com/public/resourc...REATEST08.html Don't know why WSJ is an authority, but what are your thoughts? IMO there should be more hockey and soccer players.

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06-20-2008, 12:21 PM	#2
2KBack Rumblin' Bumblin' Cake is delicious Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Wash DC Posts: 7,275	looks like they purposefully didn't repeat sports, otherwise the list would probably have been dominated decathaletes and the like.

06-20-2008, 12:40 PM	#4
SJ Bronco Ring of Famer Real Tree, No Seeds Join Date: May 2001 Location: San Jose Ca Posts: 9,798 Adopt-a-Bronco: John Elway	why are soccer players on the list? They play a 12 y/o girls game.

06-20-2008, 12:53 PM	#7
SJ Bronco Ring of Famer Real Tree, No Seeds Join Date: May 2001 Location: San Jose Ca Posts: 9,798 Adopt-a-Bronco: John Elway	A-rod, really? He may be a good ball player, but I can think of at least 12 more "athletic" baseball players off the top of my head.

06-20-2008, 12:55 PM	#8
Flex Gunmetal Icy Fresh Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: COLORADO Posts: 3,031 Adopt-a-Bronco: Francis Daytona	ARod is silly, and thank god tiger didn't make it.

06-20-2008, 12:57 PM	#10
stugotsII Al Davis is gay Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 711	Soccer is terrible. People think the NBA is full of floppers...check out a world cup match.

06-20-2008, 12:59 PM	#12
PRBronco FML less Join Date: May 2004 Location: North Vancouver Posts: 4,206 Adopt-a-Bronco: I'm so alone	Bah, Sid's not the most athletic NHLer! Craziest skilled, yes. But I would be more tempted to say one of the agile two way power forwards like Iginla or Thornton, or possibly a D-man who logs 35+ minutes a game. 3 or 4 years ago it would have been Bertuzzi hands down

06-20-2008, 01:09 PM	#17
TDmvp Ring of Famer Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 8,053	soccer sucks monkey balls .... it is like hockey minus the one thing that i think is a skill in either sport , the skating . it is like someone came along and said boy how can we make hockey even more unwatchable and some french guy most likely came up with playing it in the summer on grass not ice and lets take out all the violence cause we can't have that ... thank god in America we are so Ad driven that it can't be played on TV much cause there is not enuff stopages for ads and it just don't work ...

06-20-2008, 01:24 PM	#22
broncofan7 AKA "THE STANDARD" BQ looks ALMOST as good as I do Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: BIG D Posts: 6,022	Having played sSccer, Football, Basketball and run track while growing up, I can say that SOCCER was the most physically demanding because of the constant running, and physicality of gaining position for the ball and the inability to use your hands. Football is certainly #2 with Bball and track tied at #3 in my personal experience. When you go to even an MLS match you see the physicality of the sport and it makes you appreciate the core strength that these athletes possess while perfoming tasks such as dribbling, crossing the ball, playing a lob with their head or chest, etc. Soccer is greatness and I hope to someday be able to attend a World cup game. PS--as a caveat, Golf is NOT a sport--it is like dart throwing or clay shooting, it takes coordination and dedication but that's it. If there is no running involved, it is NOT a sport.

06-20-2008, 01:25 PM	#24
broncs2bowl Ring of Famer ^Club of Death^ Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,186 Adopt-a-Bronco: DJ Williams	thank god tiger woods is not on there