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Rock-N-Roll Historian
Join Date: Nov 2002
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Here's one of two for you Metal guys on here. That idiot Rob O'Connor is at it again.....Man, I have no use for this guy at all.
http://new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/lis...vy-metal-bands FWIW, I stopped reading it after I saw the inclusion of Uriah Heep....unquestionably one of the very worst bands of any genre to ever be successful. Talk about a joke ![]() |
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The Enigma Prognosis
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Maryland
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Yep, this is ridiculous. The only bands that even belong on here are Pantera, Metallica (early era), Judas Priest, Motorhead, Iron Maiden, Slayer, Dio, And Meshuggah. And even with that only a select few of those would make my top 25.
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Partisan
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Twixt Hell & Highwater
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Why would Hendrix be on that list? And why would he be below AC/DC and Black Sabbath? This guy is a moron.
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Ring of farmers
Join Date: Jun 2006
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What do they pay that guy for?
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Bucknuts
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Eastlake OH
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Not considered metal on his list: Thin Lizzy, Rush, Spinal Tap(I mean seriously), Deep Purple, Aerosmith, and Jimi Hendrix. I'll give him Led Zeppelin because they fit into about any genre possible, but those mentioned above I would put into rock/hard rock category.
so on a list of 25, at least 6 arent even considered to be metal. and for the record, AC/DC and Kiss are horrible, just an opinion though. |
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Ring of farmers
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Rock-N-Roll Historian
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I loved AC/DC when I was younger...still like them (well, up till Back In Black anyways, don't have much use for Johnson as a vocalist). They always bristled at it in early interviews but I think the notion that they had much more in common with punk's 76 - 80 era (sound and attitude wise) than they had with the hard rock/metal at the time is entirely valid.
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Join Date: Aug 2005
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The Top 15 worked for me ... though Deep Purple (and maybe Led Zep) don't really qualify as a "metal" band, and Spinal Tap is a comedy band of course.
Nice to see Robin Trower listed, definitely heavy metal, definitely awesome. Sabbath, Zeppelin and AC/DC is about right for 1-2-3. |
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Mo' holla fo' yo' dolla!
Join Date: Dec 2002
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Mo' holla fo' yo' dolla!
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Sabbath is definitely in the running for "prototypical metal band."
Zeppelin, on the other hand, is not a metal band. If you were to suggest such a thing to Pagey he would get very upset with you. The metal bands (those metal bands who were influenced by LZ, that is) took one facet of Zeppelin's music and turned it into a sub-genre. |
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Guerrilla Ontologist
Join Date: Apr 2001
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The Enigma Prognosis
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'Robin Trower Live' is in my Top 5 rock guitar albums of all-time ... and the Chrysalis vinyl it was pressed on was the best I ever owned, too. Don't let anybody tell you they didn't press higher quality vinyl in Europe Quote:
Actually, from an historic perspective, HEAVY METAL itself can be pretty accurately traced to an industrial saw accident in the late 60's that lopped off two of Tony Iommi's fingertips. He never would have tuned down a step-and-a-half, and that 'Iron Man' heavy sound might never have been born. Sabbath is unquestionably #1 on any metal list. In fact ... without that milli-second of negligence with that saw, where would heavy metal be? Would it even be? It's the Butterfly Effect ... that milli-second mistake on that saw IS the Butterfly Effect. ![]() |
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Guerrilla Ontologist
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The Enigma Prognosis
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Thats what i find kind of funny about how some people would classify heavy metal. Rock was influenced by blues music and likewise metal was influenced by rock and punk music. But im not about to say that BB King is the same as Led Zeppelin or that the Sex Pistols are a metal band. Im just not. So just because certain rock bands influenced a whole other culture doesnt mean that they themselves are a part of that culture. This guy in his article doesnt really give a real criteria for how he ranks his list. His biggest arguement is that no band of today sounds better than the bands that influenced metal to begin with. I seriously doubt that this guy really took any time to research or study any other bands in the metal genre. I could almost understand it if he had stayed at his angle of "inspirational" bands such as Sabbath, Zeppelin, and Rush. But then he brings in Meshuggah, Pantera, and Slayer and 2 out of those 3 were not innovators in the metal genre at all. Its like he just picked names out of a hat and went with it. Furthermore, just because a band influenced another does not qualify that band to be the top 25 of anything. Despite Sabbath's influence on the genre and even if one would consider them a metal band they are not the top of the class when it comes to a heavy metal band. They get voted in on lists all the time because of their influence and legacy, not actual body of work. |
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I dunno, Anubis ... Black Sabbath pretty much invented the metal sound I think. And satan-inspired dark side metal themes. And they never had strings or acoustic guitars or any of that either. Maybe you're too young...
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The Enigma Prognosis
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Like i said, they did influence heavy metal. But they are more of a rock band than a metal band. But you would not be the only one nor the last one to consider them a metal band. I just have my personal criteria of how i rate a metal band vs a rock band. |
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I understand your point.... I still think they rock though. |
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The Enigma Prognosis
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Judas Priest released their first major release in 74' and Sabbath released their first album in 70'. But Judas Priest had been releasing demos since 70' up until their first legit release. Sabbath had one demo in 69' but that was it until the release of the self titled in 70'. |
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The Enigma Prognosis
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Guerrilla Ontologist
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The Enigma Prognosis
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Guerrilla Ontologist
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He's so good man. He does these little things that just add up. Snow-blind is a good one to check out.... (Out of hard rock/metal - i like all kinds - i grew up on punk - it's what keeps me young)
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