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Old 01-20-2011, 06:08 AM   #2101
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Fractals are really interesting because they are so complex to look at, yet often so simple to generate. Normally you would think a pattern of infinite complexity and scale would require an infinite amount of rules, but that is not at all true.

I especially love the Mandelbrot set, which I know is the most basic fractal, but also illustrates so beautifully what fractals are about. It is generated from a single equation: Z(n+1)=Z(n)^2+c, c is in the complex plane and is in the set if Z(n) remains below a threshold for any value of n. If you look at that equation you would think the set would be trivial, but when you look at it you see the iconic shape of a pacman like figure with a smaller circle attached to it and a tail sticking out with hair around the edge, but when you zoom on the edge of the set you see the same shape again, and when you zoom on that the same shape again, and so on forever, and I do mean forever.

It is really mindboggling how one really simple equation and condition can produce a set of that complexity, a set that you couldn't reproduce in any other way no matter how many equations and conditions you are allowed to use.

It is the same for a tree, if you look at the ration of the thickness of a branch over the distance from the base of the branch to the first offshoot branch, it is almost constant, for any branch on the tree and it is identical for any tree of that type (for instance oak). Instead of making a complex set of rules, the tree just knows that when the branch is this thick I have to grow a branch here, and that instruction is repeated over and over, and it yields a structure with optimal coverage that won't break under its own weight no matter if it is big or small.
I had found a ton of fractal youtube videos with the Mandelbrot and other fractals that show the illustration of this.

I love it. I don't know if i can discuss it on a mathematical level with you, but I'd be happy to share the appreciation in some of it.

What also impresses me, is how the mandalas are also fractals. I think of fractals like those magic eye puzzles, and if you look at them right - you see the "true" nature.
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Fractals are really interesting because they are so complex to look at, yet often so simple to generate. Normally you would think a pattern of infinite complexity and scale would require an infinite amount of rules, but that is not at all true.

I especially love the Mandelbrot set, which I know is the most basic fractal, but also illustrates so beautifully what fractals are about. It is generated from a single equation: Z(n+1)=Z(n)^2+c, c is in the complex plane and is in the set if Z(n) remains below a threshold for any value of n. If you look at that equation you would think the set would be trivial, but when you look at it you see the iconic shape of a pacman like figure with a smaller circle attached to it and a tail sticking out with hair around the edge, but when you zoom on the edge of the set you see the same shape again, and when you zoom on that the same shape again, and so on forever, and I do mean forever.

It is really mindboggling how one really simple equation and condition can produce a set of that complexity, a set that you couldn't reproduce in any other way no matter how many equations and conditions you are allowed to use.

It is the same for a tree, if you look at the ration of the thickness of a branch over the distance from the base of the branch to the first offshoot branch, it is almost constant, for any branch on the tree and it is identical for any tree of that type (for instance oak). Instead of making a complex set of rules, the tree just knows that when the branch is this thick I have to grow a branch here, and that instruction is repeated over and over, and it yields a structure with optimal coverage that won't break under its own weight no matter if it is big or small.
That is fascinating and makes me wonder how anyone can believe life is random chance.
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Old 01-20-2011, 06:29 AM   #2103
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Solar Roads Can Beat Peak Oil And The Icing Over Of America

Posted by majestic on January 19, 2011

This is a pretty amazing idea — the roads might even be able to charge electric cars while they travel using mutual induction! Check out Solar Roadways:

Suppose we made a section of road out of this material and housed solar cells to collect energy, which could pay for the cost of the panel, thereby creating a road that would pay for itself over time. What if we added LEDs to “paint” the road lines from beneath, lighting up the road for safer night time driving? What if we added a heating element in the surface (like the defrosting wire in the rear window of our cars) to prevent snow/ice accumulation in northern climates? The ideas and possibilities just continued to roll in and the Solar Roadway project was born.

In 2009, we received a contract from the Federal Highway Administration to build the first ever Solar Road Panel prototype. During the course of its construction, we learned many lessons and discovered new and better ways to approach this project. These methods and discoveries are discussed throughout this website…
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Flexible screens expected to inspire a host of new devices
January 20, 2011

Source: PhysOrg.com — Jan 19, 2011

Hewlett-Packard researchers expect to deliver to the U.S. Army this year a working prototype of a “Dick Tracy wristwatch” — a lightweight, wearable device that soldiers in the field can use to view digital maps and other data on a flexible plastic screen that won’t shatter or crack like glass. The prototype could be one of the first in a new wave of products incorporating flexible electronic displays.
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Do it to parking lots and power the store they support and charge the cars while they are parked there.
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Old 01-20-2011, 06:38 AM   #2107
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Do it to parking lots and power the store they support and charge the cars while they are parked there.
Agreed.
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Nasa warns solar flares from 'huge space storm' will cause devastation
Britain could face widespread power blackouts and be left without critical communication signals for long periods of time, after the earth is hit by a once-in-a-generation “space storm”, Nasa has warned.


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Since I listen to C2C, and am familiar with Maj. Ed Dames' stance that a series of solar flares will drastically change life as we know it:

http://www.remoteviewingproducts.com/killshot.cfm

A number of forecasts by Ed Dames' team of professional remote viewers have come to pass, exactly as described. In the course of standard operations, however, the team stumbled across a catastrophic event - now dubbed 'The Killshot' - actually a series of powerful, deadly solar flares which will be impacting the Earth in the near future! The effects of Killshot are seen as causing such an extreme amount of destruction and loss of life that a large portion of RV data collection resources has been allocated for study and analysis.

In the Killshot DVD, Major Dames presents all of the data that he and his professional team have amassed, looking through time, in an attempt to piece together the global effects of this catastrophic geophysical event.

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He's been calling this for several years.
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Old 01-20-2011, 06:43 AM   #2109
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Military or prison is a paradigm that many Americans are increasingly being forced to choose between. Institutional crime versus criminal institutions versus corporate greed? A lot of families are trapped in that triangle. Work three jobs, join the military or play the crime game.

What amazes me is how many congressman belong in jail. How is that statistic not on the front pages of major media?
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/s...vastation.html

Nasa warns solar flares from 'huge space storm' will cause devastation
Britain could face widespread power blackouts and be left without critical communication signals for long periods of time, after the earth is hit by a once-in-a-generation “space storm”, Nasa has warned.


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Since I listen to C2C, and am familiar with Maj. Ed Dames' stance that a series of solar flares will drastically change life as we know it:

http://www.remoteviewingproducts.com/killshot.cfm

A number of forecasts by Ed Dames' team of professional remote viewers have come to pass, exactly as described. In the course of standard operations, however, the team stumbled across a catastrophic event - now dubbed 'The Killshot' - actually a series of powerful, deadly solar flares which will be impacting the Earth in the near future! The effects of Killshot are seen as causing such an extreme amount of destruction and loss of life that a large portion of RV data collection resources has been allocated for study and analysis.

In the Killshot DVD, Major Dames presents all of the data that he and his professional team have amassed, looking through time, in an attempt to piece together the global effects of this catastrophic geophysical event.

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He's been calling this for several years.
This is well documented but nobody seems to be doing anything about this at the upper levels. Y2k was bull****. This is actually real.
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Old 01-20-2011, 06:50 AM   #2112
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Military or prison is a paradigm that many Americans are increasingly being forced to choose between. Institutional crime versus criminal institutions versus corporate greed? A lot of families are trapped in that triangle. Work three jobs, join the military or play the crime game.

What amazes me is how many congressman belong in jail. How is that statistic not on the front pages of major media?
Collusion.
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This is well documented but nobody seems to be doing anything about this at the upper levels. Y2k was bull****. This is actually real.
I've been following this for a bit and agree.
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The Killshot DVD is on Youtube;

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http://www.disinfo.com/2011/01/solar...er-of-america/

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Posted by majestic on January 19, 2011

This is a pretty amazing idea — the roads might even be able to charge electric cars while they travel using mutual induction! Check out Solar Roadways:

Suppose we made a section of road out of this material and housed solar cells to collect energy, which could pay for the cost of the panel, thereby creating a road that would pay for itself over time. What if we added LEDs to “paint” the road lines from beneath, lighting up the road for safer night time driving? What if we added a heating element in the surface (like the defrosting wire in the rear window of our cars) to prevent snow/ice accumulation in northern climates? The ideas and possibilities just continued to roll in and the Solar Roadway project was born.

In 2009, we received a contract from the Federal Highway Administration to build the first ever Solar Road Panel prototype. During the course of its construction, we learned many lessons and discovered new and better ways to approach this project. These methods and discoveries are discussed throughout this website…
I read about this and it is amazing technology. I have to admit I am skeptical as to its ultimate benefits because I still foresee a replacement of wheels within the reasonable future, but the concept of thin surface solar generators has a LOT of applications, think roofing, parking lots as suggested, walls of industrial complexes etc. There is a plant in Germany I know of that make super efficient solar panels, they generate 2 to 3 times more electricity than regular panels using some highly sophisticated technology, but combined with the flexible thin screens a lot of companies are working on for electronics, this could ultimately be something you put on top of your roofing or parking lot and generate all the power you need.
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That is fascinating and makes me wonder how anyone can believe life is random chance.
Because you can create a system like that with 1 rule. There is no design required, just 1 rule and you get infinite complexity.
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I read about this and it is amazing technology. I have to admit I am skeptical as to its ultimate benefits because I still foresee a replacement of wheels within the reasonable future, but the concept of thin surface solar generators has a LOT of applications, think roofing, parking lots as suggested, walls of industrial complexes etc. There is a plant in Germany I know of that make super efficient solar panels, they generate 2 to 3 times more electricity than regular panels using some highly sophisticated technology, but combined with the flexible thin screens a lot of companies are working on for electronics, this could ultimately be something you put on top of your roofing or parking lot and generate all the power you need.
You and I are in agreement, and we also seem to follow the same tech feeds. I know you've spent time on this thread...so I appreciate your interests and conversation.

I also had seen solar paint, etc as well. I'm very excited about the solutions coming up for real problems.
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Because you can create a system like that with 1 rule. There is no design required, just 1 rule and you get infinite complexity.
Your own words defeat you.

Do you really think something so elegantly designed is just a random occurrence?
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Despite the intense skepticism, a small community of scientists is still investigating near-room-temperature fusion reactions. The latest news occurred last week, when Italian scientists Andrea Rossi and Sergio Focardi of the University of Bologna announced that they developed a cold fusion device capable of producing 12,400 W of heat power with an input of just 400 W. Last Friday, the scientists held a private invitation press conference in Bologna, attended by about 50 people, where they demonstrated what they claim is a nickel-hydrogen fusion reactor. Further, the scientists say that the reactor is well beyond the research phase; they plan to start shipping commercial devices within the next three months and start mass production by the end of 2011.

http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-01-...on-video.html#


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...akthrough.html

Super-fast quantum computers could soon be a reality after scientists make silicon breakthrough



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0...n_811864.html#

Earth could be getting a second sun, at least temporarily.

Dr. Brad Carter, Senior Lecturer of Physics at the University of Southern Queensland, outlined the scenario to news.com.au. Betelgeuse, one of the night sky's brightest stars, is losing mass, indicating it is collapsing. It could run out of fuel and go super-nova at any time.

When that happens, for at least a few weeks, we'd see a second sun, Carter says. There may also be no night during that timeframe.

The Star Wars-esque scenario could happen by 2012, Carter says... or it could take longer. The explosion could also cause a neutron star or result in the formation of a black hole 1300 light years from Earth, reports news.com.au.

But doomsday sayers should be careful about speculation on this one. If the star does go super-nova, Earth will be showered with harmless particles, according to Carter. "They will flood through the Earth and bizarrely enough, even though the supernova we see visually will light up the night sky, 99 per cent of the energy in the supernova is released in these particles that will come through our bodies and through the Earth with absolutely no harm whatsoever," he told news.com.au.

In fact, a neutrino shower could be beneficial to Earth. According to Carter this "star stuff" makes up the universe. "It literally makes things like gold, silver - all the heavy elements - even things like uranium....a star like Betelgeuse is instantly forming for us all sorts of heavy elements and atoms that our own Earth and our own bodies have from long past supernovi," said Carter.
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We’ve heard of supermarket hydroponics before: window hanging, wall-mounted, and rooftop farm concepts have been abundant over the last decade. Truthfully, though, how many have you actually seen? Throughout 2011, the New York hydroponics firm Better Food Solutions plans to change that by installing a network of hydroponic greenhouses atop a number of grocery stores across the nation. The group, also behind the New York “Greenhouse Project” and Brightfarms Systems, believes that by working with grocery stores they can provide local food and further prove that hydroponics is the future of agriculture.
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Your own words defeat you.

Do you really think something so elegantly designed is just a random occurrence?
Yup.

Try to write down 1 million random simple mathematical equations, I bet you at least one of them will produce an infinitely complex system. If you sit for an hour and just push random keys on the keyboard you will never write out a Shakespeare sonnet, but you will write out a few 3, 4 and maybe 5 letters words by chance, if you try enough systems you will also happen upon a few simple ones that produce something useful - that is the nature of the random, the simple is much more likely to happen than the complex - so simple rules point to a simple cause.
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Military Industrial complex used to be a triangle but I think it's more like a spider right now.
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