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Old 09-29-2008, 10:03 AM   #426
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It's almost sad that those science teams they put together were divided up between the US and Russia. They really came up with some crazy ass stuff. I wonder if anything would have come of it all if they had been allowed to keep working.
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It's almost sad that those science teams they put together were divided up between the US and Russia. They really came up with some crazy ass stuff. I wonder if anything would have come of it all if they had been allowed to keep working.
Maybe...they did....

I'm interested in the Nazi-lore of technology and the escape of individuals. Understand i'm not a sympathizer - but actually interested in some of this stuff. it's amazing how...ritualized the Nazi empire was. I mean, they were very esoteric in their order and structure, etc.

Now about the nazi UFO's - here's some other interesting tidbits to throw:

http://www.rense.com/general82/crowl.htm

Secret Agent 666 - Aleister
Crowley, British Intelligence
And The Occult

http://www.boudillion.com/lam/lam.htm

Who is Lam?:

It is interesting to note that since Crowley's time, in occult terms at least, Lam is considered a class of entity rather than an individual being. When one invokes Lam, they are invoking an entity of that type, rather than a specific being. For occultists operating along O.T.O. lines, the idea is to invoke these Lam entities through Magickal Portals (intentionally created rents in time and space) into physical manifestation on planet earth. Why this is desirable is not always so clearly stated. (It often appears that within Crowleyian circles the working rule is often: "If Crowley did it, I want to do it, too.")



Michael Bertiaux, a Lam contactee and invoker of note, viewed Lam as the "subterranean burgeoning of Lucifer-Gnosis." Considering that Gnosis means an intuitive knowing, this would mean that knowing Lam is to know a welling-up from the unconscious of an inner knowing of Lucifer. (The Occult being the occult, it is important to bear in mind that occultists at least may not necessarily see Lucifer as the devil, but rather as a "light bringer" who fell to earth.)



Bertiaux goes on to say that Lam is the natural mode of human evolution in the present Aeon - indicating that to him and his followers this Lucifer-Gnosis is the appropriate path of human spiritual growth at this time.



Cowley termed the intentional cultivation of spiritual growth the "Great Work." And the Great work for Crowley, "...involved precisely the establishment of contact with non-human intelligences." Intelligences such as Lam. Using the language of Crowley's time, certain non-human intelligences such as Lam were what we today would term "extraterrestrial."
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Mysteries in the Mountains

A real-life Twilight Zone may exist in Southeastern Arizona near the Mexican border.
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http://www.physorg.com/news141581384.html

While almost everybody knows how Einstein revolutionized physics with his theories of relativity, many people may not know that the great scientist had a domestic side, too. Well, sort of - in 1930, Einstein and his former student Leo Szilard designed a refrigerator that required no electricity and had no moving parts. However, as refrigerator technology became more efficient, Einstein's design was nearly forgotten.
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http://technology.newscientist.com/a...mg19125681.400

The trip from London to Havant on the south coast of England is like travelling through time. I sit in an air-conditioned train, on tracks first laid 150 years ago, passing roads that were known to the Romans. At one point, I pick out a canal boat, queues of cars and the trail from a high-flying jet - the evolution of mechanised travel in a single glance.

But evolution has a habit of springing surprises. Waiting at my destination is a man who would put an end to mechanised travel. Roger Shawyer has developed an engine with no moving parts that he believes can replace rockets and make trains, planes and automobiles obsolete. "The end of wings and wheels" is how he puts it. It's a bold claim. (Too bold? See the later feedback here and here)

Of course, any crackpot can rough out plans for a warp drive. What they never show you is evidence that it works. Shawyer is different. He has built a working prototype to test his ideas, and as a respected spacecraft engineer he has persuaded the British government to fund his work. Now organisations from other parts of the world, including the US air force and the Chinese government, are beating a path to his tiny company.

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Against Intuition

Experimental philosophers emerge from the shadows, but skeptics still ask: Is this philosophy?
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Earth's Poles Are Shifting to New Coordinates
Lava flows underneath the planet's crust show reasons for polar shift
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Old 09-30-2008, 01:47 PM   #433
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Earth's Poles Are Shifting to New Coordinates
Lava flows underneath the planet's crust show reasons for polar shift
That could certainly cause a 'climate change'
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Lava flows underneath the planet's crust show reasons for polar shift
That would sure blow a hole in the hollow earth theory, huh?
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That could certainly cause a 'climate change'
I've been thinking about this for some time....

I've been reading about how the sun might change....If the sun changes, how will the world evolve - people/plants/animals/etc? I sort of subscribe to the Microorganism idea of earth......

If the "light" changes (wavelength), what sort of impact will that have on our brains. (You know how your brain is alpha, beta, etc) -
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That would sure blow a hole in the hollow earth theory, huh?
Not unless those a-holes are up to this....
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http://www.philipcoppens.com/cc_timewave.html

Crop Circles: Messages From the TimeWave?

As 2012 approaches, the expectation of a global paradigm shift grows. Modern anomalous phenomena like UFOs and crop circles are seen as precursors of this change, which is said to be forecast not only in the end of the Mayan calendar, but also in Terence McKenna’s TimeWave Zero – the end of time itself.
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Exit Tax for U.S. Expatriates Becomes Law
New rules impose tax on expatriates and withholding requirements on trustees

Giving up a U.S. passport can carry a steep price tag. A new law passed by the U.S. Congress and signed by the President will subject certain individuals, who expatriate or give up their green cards, to immediate tax on the inherent gain on all of their worldwide assets and a tax on future gifts or bequests made to a U.S. citizen or resident.

As more and more people vote with their feet, the U.S. Congress repeatedly threatened to enact legislation aimed at U.S. citizens who expatriate. Congress finally made good on those threats by unanimously passing the Heroes Earning Assistance and Relief Tax (HEART) Act (the ‘Act'), which provides tax relief for active duty military personnel and reservists.

The new tax regime applies to certain individuals who relinquish their US citizenship and certain long-term U.S. residents (i.e., green card holders) who terminate their U.S. residence (hereafter referred to as ‘expatriates'). The so-called ‘mark-to-market' tax will apply to the net unrealized gain on the expatriate's worldwide assets as if such property were sold (the ‘deemed sale') for its fair market value on the day before the expatriation date. Any net gain on this deemed sale in excess of US$600,000 will be taxable.

In addition, trustees of non-grantor trusts must withhold and pay over to the IRS 30 percent of the portion of any distribution (whether direct or indirect) that would have been taxable to the expatriate had he not expatriated. Failure to withhold the tax could subject the trustee to direct liability for the unpaid U.S. tax.

The Act became law on 18 June, 2008.
Individuals Covered

The Act applies to any expatriate if that individual (i) has a net worth of US$2 million or more; (ii) has an average net U.S. income tax liability of greater than US$139,000 for the five year period prior to expatriation; or (iii) fails to certify that he has complied with all U.S. federal tax obligations for the preceding five years (the ‘covered expatriate').

The Act contains two exceptions, which are broader than those contained in current law. An individual is not a ‘covered expatriate' if he certifies compliance with US federal tax obligations as specified in item (iii) above, and: (i) he was at birth a citizen of the U.S. and another country, provided that (a) as of the expatriation he continues to be a citizen of, and a tax resident of, such other country, and (b) he has been a resident of the U.S. for no more than 10 of the 15 taxable years ending with the taxable year of expatriation; or (ii) he relinquished U.S. citizenship before reaching the age of 18 , provided that he was a resident of the U.S. for not more than 10 taxable years before relinquishment.
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That could certainly cause a 'climate change'
Actually that's just the magnetic pole that is shifting. The orbital
pole, which creates the summers and winters, is staying in the
same place. The magnetic poles flip periodically, and have been
doing this for millions of years. What this means is that if
you have a compass the needle will point south instead of north.
Also during this time there is no magnetosphere to block deadly
cosmic rays. So there will be a huge increase in cancer
and other deadly effects. Climate change and Wall Street
will be the least of our worries if that happens.

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That would sure blow a hole in the hollow earth theory, huh?
Again, it's the magnetic poles that are shifting. Does nothing to
affect the hollow earth theory, because the rotational pole
isn't changing. The rotational poles will still be the north
and south poles. It's just that the north magnetic pole
will become the south magnetic pole, and vis versa.
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/sep/19/spain


€500,000 scam of a Spanish Robin Hood
Man claims he fooled 39 banks into giving loans
Cash passed to social activists, fugitive says


He calls himself Robin Bank and acts as the self-appointed avenger of downtrodden loan defaulters and all poor victims of the global financial meltdown.

Like his hero Robin Hood, Spanish outlaw Enric Duran steals from the rich and gives, if not to the poor, at least to the activist groups who are sworn enemies of the banking system.

Yesterday Duran circulated 200,000 copies of a single-issue free newspaper called Crisis to show how he had spent the past two years fooling banks into lending him nearly half a million euros (about 395,000).

He said he had given it all away to social activists or spent it on the newspaper. He is refusing to pay the money back and daring the banks to get him sent to jail.

"If we include interest on arrears the present amount of debt is over €500,000, which I will not pay," he said.

As Duran, 32, went into hiding, copies of the newspaper were being handed out by friends and relatives to commuters at dozens of metro and railway stations in his home city of Barcelona.

Friends said he had fled the country earlier this week.
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A script written by the BBC and the government to be broadcast in the event of a nuclear attack has been published.

The script, written in the 1970s and released by the National Archives, included instructions to "stay calm and stay in your own homes".

It said communications had been disrupted, and the number of casualties and extent of damage were not known.

Other papers reveal debates about how to ensure the person reading the script was authoritative and comforting.

The script was discussed from 1973 to 1975, during the Cold War.
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http://blog.wired.com/wiredscience/2...tweak-cou.html

Plant Tweak Could Let Toxic Soil Feed Millions

Thanks to a genetic breakthrough, a large portion of Earth's now-inhospitable soil could be used to grow crops -- potentially alleviating one of the most pressing problems facing the planet's rapidly growing population.

Scientists at the University of California, Riverside made plants tolerant of poisonous aluminum by tweaking a single gene. This may allow crops to thrive in the 40 to 50 percent of Earth's soils currently rendered toxic by the metal.

"Aluminum toxicity is a very limiting factor, especially in developing countries, in South America and Africa and Indonesia," said biochemist Paul Larsen. "It's not like these areas are devoid of plant life, but they're not crop plants. Among agriculturally important plants, there aren't mechanisms for aluminum tolerance."

The planet is rapidly running out of room to grow food, and scientists say that the world's booming population -- expected to swell by half in the next 50 years -- will outstrip food production. There's no more room for farms in the developed world; demand for cropland is fueling deforestation in the rain forests of Latin America and Africa; and the limits of the Green Revolution, which increased global food production through the use of pesticides and industrial farming techniques, have been reached. Another revolution, say agronomists, is needed.
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http://www.wunderkabinett.co.uk/damn...d-control.html

Wednesday, October 1. 2008
Was Sheldrake's stabber a victim of mind control?

Rupert Sheldrake was stabbed by Kazuki Hirano in early April this year and thins have started rolling in preparation for the trial and more information is coming out about the case and it is certainly weird.

The 34-year-old ex-laborer from Yokohama, Japan, has been jailed since April 2 for allegedly stabbing Rupert Sheldrake, a British biologist famous for his experiments in mental telepathy.

In telephone conversations, letters and two interviews at the Santa Fe County jail, Hirano has insisted he is a "guinea pig" in Sheldrake's mind-control experiments using "remote mental telepathy."

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Hirano said he became convinced his thoughts were being controlled four or five years ago when he began to feel hypnotized while he was homeless in the Camden Town district of London. He said a man named "Doctor Tony" in London's Stockwell district told him Sheldrake was conducting experiments in mind control on the homeless. Hirano said he didn't believe this at first but came to accept it after reading about Sheldrake on the Internet. He said he now believes the American military is developing remote mental telepathy to combat terrorism.

Hirano said he quit his "labor job" in Yokohama earlier this year and traveled to Santa Fe to attend the 10th International Conference on Science and Consciousness at La Fonda to ask Sheldrake and others there how to block mental telepathy.

"I'm asking him how to stop telepathy remote," he said. "He is kind of lying to me, and he is laughing and kind of smiling like he looks at me stupid and then walks away."

Hirano said others at the conference advised him to try Tai Chi and other Chinese practices that are "spiritual but not very scientific." He said he suspects no one will tell him how to block mental telepathy because they are making money from the experiments.

The degree to which his mind is controlled varies in intensity, Hirano said. When pressed on whether he still thought mental telepathy was being used on him, he said "probably."

Asked if he stabbed Sheldrake, Hirano avoided a straight answer — apparently aware that he should not admit guilt — but insisted he wasn't thinking about stabbing anyone when he carried a hunting knife into the conference.


So what are the options?

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The fairly obvious one is that, despite his protestations, he is delusional. This is clearly a decision that has to be left to the professionals to decide but is clearly something we have seen before, where people incorporate real-life (or even fictional) aspects into their fantasy.
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However, I do wonder how you'd tell the difference between an actual delusion and a wild (but true) conspiracy. It is worth bearing in mind, that the prison shrink has concluded that he isn't schizophrenic, although that isn't admissible in court.

So the trial is set to take place and it will be interesting to see what comes out of that:

A plea bargain that would have freed him from jail and allowed him to be deported to Japan was withdrawn Sept. 12 after Sheldrake told the court in a telephone call from London he is afraid if Hirano is released without psychiatric treatment, he will continue to stalk him. Some have compared the case to the 1980 murder of musician John Lennon by his obsessed fan, Mark David Chapman.

...

State District Judge Michael Vigil ordered Hirano undergo a 60-day psychiatric diagnostic evaluation in Los Lunas. Vigil also set jury selection in a trial on a charge of aggravated battery with a deadly weapon for Oct. 21, with opening arguments to begin in late October or early November.
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Renowned marine archaeologist Frank Goddio has unearthed (unwatered?) a controversial object which may link early Christianity to magickal pagan traditions. His team has found a bowl in the waters off Alexandria that is engraved with what they believe "could be the world's first known reference to Christ":

The full engraving on the bowl reads, "DIA CHRSTOU O GOISTAIS," which has been interpreted by the excavation team to mean either, "by Christ the magician" or, "the magician by Christ." "It could very well be a reference to Jesus Christ, in that he was once the primary exponent of white magic," Goddio, co-founder of the Oxford Center of Maritime Archaeology, said.

...Both Goddio and Egyptologist David Fabre, a member of the European Institute of Submarine Archaeology, think a "magus" could have practiced fortune telling rituals using the bowl. The Book of Matthew refers to "wisemen," or Magi, believed to have been prevalent in the ancient world.

According to Fabre, the bowl is also very similar to one depicted in two early Egyptian earthenware statuettes that are thought to show a soothsaying ritual.

"It has been known in Mesopotamia probably since the 3rd millennium B.C.," Fabre said. "The soothsayer interprets the forms taken by the oil poured into a cup of water in an interpretation guided by manuals." He added that the individual, or "medium," then goes into a hallucinatory trance when studying the oil in the cup.

The finding is rather speculative at this point though, with the article quoting other scholars with completely different interpretations.
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Plant Tweak Could Let Toxic Soil Feed Millions

Thanks to a genetic breakthrough, a large portion of Earth's now-inhospitable soil could be used to grow crops -- potentially alleviating one of the most pressing problems facing the planet's rapidly growing population.

Scientists at the University of California, Riverside made plants tolerant of poisonous aluminum by tweaking a single gene. This may allow crops to thrive in the 40 to 50 percent of Earth's soils currently rendered toxic by the metal.

"Aluminum toxicity is a very limiting factor, especially in developing countries, in South America and Africa and Indonesia," said biochemist Paul Larsen. "It's not like these areas are devoid of plant life, but they're not crop plants. Among agriculturally important plants, there aren't mechanisms for aluminum tolerance."

The planet is rapidly running out of room to grow food, and scientists say that the world's booming population -- expected to swell by half in the next 50 years -- will outstrip food production. There's no more room for farms in the developed world; demand for cropland is fueling deforestation in the rain forests of Latin America and Africa; and the limits of the Green Revolution, which increased global food production through the use of pesticides and industrial farming techniques, have been reached. Another revolution, say agronomists, is needed.
GMOs are the work of the devil. Or so I have been told.
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I'm torn on the issue....
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I think it's a last resort kind of development. We have other ways to increase crop production and production area. From what I've heard/read some crops show a very good production with no till farming. A layer of cut grass/hay is placed over the field and protects the seeds. It limits exposer, erosion, and doesn't require the same quantity of pesticides/fertilizers. With some crops it increases production without all the side effects. It doesn't apply to all crops of course but some of the staple crops look promising. Hopefully we'll see a large scale implementation on it somewhere to see how it works.

There's also the buildings for crop growing that I think was mentioned in this thread once. It only makes sense. It can increase crop growing area indefinitely. The only limits are how high and wide you build it. I'm definitely in favor of that idea before we go modifying crops to allow people to cut down more forests.
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I think it's a last resort kind of development. We have other ways to increase crop production and production area. From what I've heard/read some crops show a very good production with no till farming. A layer of cut grass/hay is placed over the field and protects the seeds. It limits exposer, erosion, and doesn't require the same quantity of pesticides/fertilizers. With some crops it increases production without all the side effects. It doesn't apply to all crops of course but some of the staple crops look promising. Hopefully we'll see a large scale implementation on it somewhere to see how it works.

There's also the buildings for crop growing that I think was mentioned in this thread once. It only makes sense. It can increase crop growing area indefinitely. The only limits are how high and wide you build it. I'm definitely in favor of that idea before we go modifying crops to allow people to cut down more forests.

I know what you mean, the part of me that opposes GM foods - just i dunno - "doesn't like it".

No more, no less. I just like letting nature do her job.
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“Jim Denevan makes freehand drawings in sand. At low tide on wide beaches Jim searches the shore for a wave tossed stick. After finding a good stick and composing himself in the near and far environment Jim draws– laboring up to 7 hours and walking as many as 30 miles. The resulting sand drawing is made entirely freehand w/ no measuring aids whatsoever. From the ground, these drawn environments are experienced as places. Places to explore and be, and to see relation and distance. For a time these tangible specific places exist in the indeterminate environment of ocean shore. From high above the marks are seen as isolated phenomena, much like clouds, rivers or buildings. Soon after Jim’s motions and marks are completed water moves over and through, leaving nothing.

In 2005 Jim Denevan had his museum debut the Yerba Buena Center for the Arts in San Francisco, California. Also in 2005 Jim Denevan’s work was shown at the Headlands Center for the Arts in Sausalito, California. In the summer of 2007, Jim had a show at PS1/MOMA in New York City. Jim’s work has been featured in the New York Times Magazine, National Geographic, Elle, GQ, The Surfers Journal, and Outside, as well as in many other national and international publications.”
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