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Old 08-22-2014, 08:44 AM   #1
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Of course, sticking to his snake in the grass credentials from his KGB days, he pretends that it's a "relief" mission.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/0...n_5698820.html
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brinksmanship at its finest. i guess our first signal will be a really bright fireball.
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Old 08-22-2014, 01:58 PM   #4
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Not a bash Obama thread. Okay? Start your own if you feel the need so deeply.
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NATO reports that Russia is moving artillery into Ukraine.
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Unbelievable twaddle.

You call an aid convoy of water, sleeping bags and food an "offensive"?

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It's a typical Putin move; overstep and see what kind of push-back occurs.

Trojan horse comes to mind.
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Unbelievable twaddle.

You call an aid convoy of water, sleeping bags and food an "offensive"?
Right on cue, der gaffen-fuehrer swallowing Putin's spooge.
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It's a typical Putin move; overstep and see what kind of push-back occurs.

Trojan horse comes to mind.
What a bunch of lunatics.

Blind idiots.
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First trucks with Russian aid reach Lugansk, E. Ukraine

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/08...nsk-e-ukraine/
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What a bunch of lunatics.

Blind idiots.
Quieten down Gaffney, you'll stroke out.

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What a bunch of lunatics.

Blind idiots.
Ukraine captures contingent of armed Russian paratroopers infiltrating on some unknown mission which they won't admit to. Russia says they just got lost (and Gaffo believes them).
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/0...n_5714555.html
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Unbelievable twaddle.

You call an aid convoy of water, sleeping bags and food an "offensive"?

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They also dropped off weapons and pillaged a weapons factory and took out equipment. They just opened up another war front from the south today.

Are you still denying that russia has anything to do with the war? You really think it's local Ukainians who went to the neighborhood corner to buy Tanks, surface to air missles, grad rockets?
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They also dropped off weapons and pillaged a weapons factory and took out equipment. They just opened up another war front from the south today.

Are you still denying that russia has anything to do with the war? You really think it's local Ukainians who went to the neighborhood corner to buy Tanks, surface to air missles, grad rockets?
What is your source, the Kiev government? CNN? FOX? Which have reported the Kiev party line without question.

I won't be surprised in Putin decides to send Russian forces in -- given what is happening. But if he does the result will be decisive - and it will happen quickly.
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What is your source, the Kiev government? CNN? FOX? Which have reported the Kiev party line without question.

I won't be surprised in Putin decides to send Russian forces in -- given what is happening. But if he does the result will be decisive - and it will happen quickly.
Family, friends, direct contact with battalion leaders that I have sent donation to.

How about you?
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AUG 25, 2014 3:13PM ET /

Ukraine President Dissolves Parliament, Calls for Early Elections in October
SHIRLEY LI

http://www.thewire.com/global/2014/0...iament/379095/

Evidently Ukraine's Parliament is not supporting Poroshenko war policy -- so he dissolves Parliament. How convenient. MHG

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What is your source, the Kiev government? CNN? FOX? Which have reported the Kiev party line without question.

I won't be surprised in Putin decides to send Russian forces in -- given what is happening. But if he does the result will be decisive - and it will happen quickly.
Hey, Gaffo! Have you ever read up on your hero?
http://larussophobe.wordpress.com/putinmurders/
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Family, friends, direct contact with battalion leaders that I have sent donation to.

How about you?
Why am I skeptical? Check this out.

Here's an example of the NY Times lying to us. Check it out. The article regurgitates the propaganda in the headline and in the story about a Russian attack -- but admits at the very end that "There were no signs of Russian military vehicles or any other indications of an armed escort by Russian troops".
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EUROPE

Russians Open Fire in Ukraine, NATO Reports
By ANDREW HIGGINS and MICHAEL R. GORDONAUG. 22, 2014
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/23/wo...=top-news&_r=2
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I have no way of confirming or refuting Mock's sources in Ukraine. But clearly the US press is not credible -- nor is the Kiev government.

The following skeptical piece is worth a look. MHG

AUGUST 25, 2014

NATO – New York Times Convoy Fabrications
by RENEE PARSONS

On Saturday, the entire humanitarian convoy of 227 trucks crossed back into Russia without incident after having successfully delivered its contents to the Luhansk distribution center. The unwavering round trip project from Russia surmounted considerable bureaucratic delays and political obstacles including wild assertions that the convoy’s true purpose was to ‘smuggle weapons’ to the east Ukraine rebels.

Amidst a multitude of frenzied claims from the Kiev government and its western allies that the convoy was intent on fomenting violence and escalating the conflict as it constituted an ‘illegal incursion” and ‘violated the sovereignty of Ukraine,” the trucks peacefully avoided any confrontation with Ukraine military forces by taking advantage of back roads.

Given the very urgent need to provide immediate medical relief and other life necessities to Ukraine citizens, what has been especially noteworthy during the ten day period in which the Russian convoy was stalled at the border is the extent to which the Kiev government and its EU/US/NATO partners would go to impede a convoy carrying humanitarian supplies.

Now that the mission has been successfully completed without any of the predicted dire consequences, the considerable amount of egg on the collective public faces of its opponents who deliberately provoked an unnecessary combative situation would normally be cause for considerable public embarrassment; yet will be easily overlooked by an obedient submissive media.

Obviously, the leaders of the western triumvirate were fully conscious of the fact that the convoy was totally dedicated for humanitarian purposes but sought to use the convoy as part of the larger goal of sowing the seeds of distrust and hostility toward Russia and toward Vladimir Putin in particular.

http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/08/...-fabrications/
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Hey, Gaffo! Have you ever read up on your hero?
http://larussophobe.wordpress.com/putinmurders/
You seem strangely uninterested in the several millions of Iraqis and Afghanis the US has murdered since 2001.

US leaders are directly responsible -- and these are war crimes. Those lives don't count?

You invariably revert back to your jaundiced and anachronistic world view. You will very predictably wave the red/white/blue right on cue if/when the US decides to up the ante to a wider war in eastern Europe.

In short, you will march in lock step with the rest over the edge...

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You seem strangely uninterested in the several millions of Iraqis and Afghanis the US has murdered since 2001.

US leaders are directly responsible -- and these are war crimes. Those lives don't count?

You invariably revert back to your jaundiced and anachronistic world view. You will very predictably wave the red/white/blue right on cue if/when the US decides to up the ante to a wider war in eastern Europe.

In short, you will march in lock step with the rest over the edge...

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Man! Was that a clumsy deflection. You've got to work on your chops.
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Putin is seen clearly for what he is, a KGB thug who has stolen billions from the Russian people.

Gaffney sees a hero, a man to be admired.
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How NATO Could Confront the Putin Doctrine
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Putin is just in bad timing right now. If a republican was in the WH, he'd have more friends, namely liberals, especially if he made a joke out of that president like he's done to Obama. Because it's Obama, he's evil. I think Putin is a creep and I think that no matter who is in the WH. I wish more people would be honest and stop this depends on politics crap in these matters.
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