Obama says "Everybody should be bilingual..." - The Orange Mane

W*GS · 05-30-2008, 11:21 AM

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"When it comes to second-language learners, the most important thing is not to get bogged down in ideology, but figure out what works," Obama says. "Everybody should be bilingual, or everybody should be trilingual."

http://www.dailycamera.com/news/2008...age-obama-colo

cutthemdown · 05-30-2008, 11:55 AM

So let me get this right. We have tons of illegals running around that can't speak English and Obama is worried about the English speakers learning another language? It's great to be bilingual but I would rather have Obama, McCain talk about fitness more then language. What we need is to lose about 400-500 million pounds as a country.

Beantown Bronco · 05-30-2008, 11:57 AM

They then asked Bush the same question and he went on some tangeant about some experiences he had back in his younger days with "the bilinguals" and said that it was fine to be bilingual, so long as it was limited to just experimentation in college.

cutthemdown · 05-30-2008, 11:59 AM

I do like how Obama mentioned art and music in his speach. Too often schools spend all the money on sports and not enough on the arts.

The schools should really start pushing fitness and the arts along with the regular Math, Science, English, History

cutthemdown · 05-30-2008, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Beantown Bronco

They then asked Bush the same question and he went on some tangeant about some experiences he had back in his younger days with "the bilinguals" and said that it was fine to be bilingual, so long as it was limited to just experimentation in college.

lol. Actually Bush is bilingual right?

Bronco Jamus · 05-30-2008, 12:20 PM

Well, as a Senator he does talk out of both sides of his mouth.

theAPAOps5 · 05-30-2008, 12:36 PM

Well most European countries require their students to learn a second language. Usually that being English. But many students take latin as well as its influence is in many languages.

So in that matter I agree with him. But America is not surrounded by the numberous countries that europe is. So I see the other side of the coing too.

TailgateNut · 05-30-2008, 12:52 PM

Nothing wrong with being bi-lingual. I learned german while attending HS in europe.

I just wish I had learned spanish, considering the influx of hispanics into our country.

Bronco Jamus · 05-30-2008, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ApaOps5

Well most European countries require their students to learn a second language. Usually that being English. But many students take latin as well as its influence is in many languages.

So in that matter I agree with him. But America is not surrounded by the numberous countries that europe is. So I see the other side of the coing too.

When I was in school here in America I had to take a second language.

TexanBob · 05-30-2008, 01:25 PM

Does Ebonics count?

Seriously, I believe people should be fluent in more than one language. What I don't want is government *mandating* learning a second language. Let it be voluntary.

yavoon · 05-30-2008, 01:33 PM

Another declaration from our collectivist masters?

epicSocialism4tw · 05-30-2008, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by TexanBob

Does Ebonics count?

Seriously, I believe people should be fluent in more than one language. What I don't want is government *mandating* learning a second language. Let it be voluntary.

This is the basic difference between liberty and socialism.

Obama is a socialist.

alkemical · 05-30-2008, 02:15 PM

So is Bush - just the recipients are different.

epicSocialism4tw · 05-30-2008, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by claviculasolomonis

So is Bush - just the recipients are different.

Bush is a puppet. He is quite the fiscal liberal, though, by all appearances.

alkemical · 05-30-2008, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by angryllama

Bush is a puppet. He is quite the fiscal liberal, though, by all appearances.

!

BroncoInferno · 05-30-2008, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by angryllama

This is the basic difference between liberty and socialism.

Obama is a socialist.

Perhaps you could point out just where in Obama's quote he says learning a second language should be compulsory?

Rigs11 · 05-30-2008, 02:49 PM

too funny. Everyone is up in arms over only english being spoken here. Yet when you go to other countries, there are always signs in English.Get over yourself people. Who gives a rat's ass if people want to learn other languages,all it does is give them an instant job qualification.Look at countries like India who teach english as a second language and are kicking our asses when it comes to education. I bet you would all support teaching religion though huh? the new thing is calling smart people "etilist" to cover up for dumb people. Bravo.

OrangeDoofus · 05-30-2008, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BroncoInferno

Perhaps you could point out just where in Obama's quote he says learning a second language should be compulsory?

That's not the point. The point is AHHHH LIBERALS ARE SCARY!

Pseudofool · 05-30-2008, 04:25 PM

WTF? How can any descent person have a problem with the notion that our children should speak more than one language.

Clearly, he's including Spanish-speaking only people in this--as they two would need to be bilingual--I guess the neocons could argue that Obama wants them to learn French.

Rohirrim · 05-30-2008, 06:00 PM

I think it's a great idea for everyone to be fluent in more than one language. It opens up whole new worlds. I took a few years of Spanish and I want to go back and take classes and get fluent. Some of my favorite writers write in Spanish. I'd like to read the originals instead of translations. Spanish is a beautiful language to listen to as well. I especially like the rolled Rs.

I remember watching a twenty something conducter on a train in Switzerland walking up and down the aisle and speaking to passengers fluently in Italian, German, French, and when he got to us, perfect English. I'd love to be able to do that. Latin and Greek would be nice too.

W*GS · 05-30-2008, 06:23 PM

I submit that the public education system teach English. It certainly doesn't do that anymore.

spdirty · 05-30-2008, 08:43 PM

shlt, I just draw a picture,

L.A. BRONCOS FAN · 05-30-2008, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by BroncoInferno

Perhaps you could point out just where in Obama's quote he says learning a second language should be compulsory?

Beat me to it.

More reason not to take TexasBaghdadBob seriously.

gunns · 05-30-2008, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by cutthemdown

lol. Actually Bush is bilingual right?

The man can't even speak the English language.

I'm all for people wanting to learn a second language. Being educated opens the world and opportunities to people but it is sadly taken for granted in this country lately and other countries are beginning to out do us in that area. It may be our demise. I don't want anything mandated though and I don't believe Obama even inferred that. Couldn't agree more on the fitness part. We've become lazy on so many levels.

sisterhellfyre · 05-31-2008, 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Rigs11

I bet you would all support teaching religion though huh? the new thing is calling smart people "etilist" to cover up for dumb people. Bravo.

"Etilist"?

No comment.

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05-30-2008, 11:55 AM	#2
cutthemdown A verbis ad verbera Zimm to HOF Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Long Beach Posts: 32,884	So let me get this right. We have tons of illegals running around that can't speak English and Obama is worried about the English speakers learning another language? It's great to be bilingual but I would rather have Obama, McCain talk about fitness more then language. What we need is to lose about 400-500 million pounds as a country.

05-30-2008, 11:57 AM	#3
Beantown Bronco Athletic Supporter Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mass Posts: 19,119 Adopt-a-Bronco: Matt Prater	They then asked Bush the same question and he went on some tangeant about some experiences he had back in his younger days with "the bilinguals" and said that it was fine to be bilingual, so long as it was limited to just experimentation in college.

05-30-2008, 11:59 AM	#4
cutthemdown A verbis ad verbera Zimm to HOF Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Long Beach Posts: 32,884	I do like how Obama mentioned art and music in his speach. Too often schools spend all the money on sports and not enough on the arts. The schools should really start pushing fitness and the arts along with the regular Math, Science, English, History

05-30-2008, 12:20 PM	#6
Bronco Jamus Ring of Famer Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Denver Posts: 1,636	Well, as a Senator he does talk out of both sides of his mouth.

05-30-2008, 12:36 PM	#7
theAPAOps5 A new beginning! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Denver Posts: 26,154 Adopt-a-Bronco: Watermock - RIP	Well most European countries require their students to learn a second language. Usually that being English. But many students take latin as well as its influence is in many languages. So in that matter I agree with him. But America is not surrounded by the numberous countries that europe is. So I see the other side of the coing too.

05-30-2008, 12:52 PM	#8
TailgateNut Bleedin' orange! .......as much as tebonites Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mile High Posts: 20,018 Adopt-a-Bronco: Howard Griffith	Nothing wrong with being bi-lingual. I learned german while attending HS in europe. I just wish I had learned spanish, considering the influx of hispanics into our country.

05-30-2008, 01:25 PM	#10
TexanBob Don't Argue With Me You Know I'm Right Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 5,023 Adopt-a-Bronco: Darris Nash	Does Ebonics count? Seriously, I believe people should be fluent in more than one language. What I don't want is government mandating learning a second language. Let it be voluntary.

05-30-2008, 01:33 PM	#11
yavoon Ring of Famer Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 10,260	Another declaration from our collectivist masters?

05-30-2008, 02:15 PM	#13
alkemical Guerrilla Ontologist rorrim\|mirror Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Future Posts: 42,723 Adopt-a-Bronco: Prima Materia	So is Bush - just the recipients are different.

05-30-2008, 02:49 PM	#17
Rigs11 Ring of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 7,855	too funny. Everyone is up in arms over only english being spoken here. Yet when you go to other countries, there are always signs in English.Get over yourself people. Who gives a rat's ass if people want to learn other languages,all it does is give them an instant job qualification.Look at countries like India who teach english as a second language and are kicking our asses when it comes to education. I bet you would all support teaching religion though huh? the new thing is calling smart people "etilist" to cover up for dumb people. Bravo.

05-30-2008, 04:25 PM	#19
Pseudofool Cynic at Large Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: The Kingdom of Solipsism Posts: 2,893 Adopt-a-Bronco: Me?	WTF? How can any descent person have a problem with the notion that our children should speak more than one language. Clearly, he's including Spanish-speaking only people in this--as they two would need to be bilingual--I guess the neocons could argue that Obama wants them to learn French.

05-30-2008, 06:00 PM	#20
Rohirrim Partisan Human Cannonball Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Twixt Hell & Highwater Posts: 49,113	I think it's a great idea for everyone to be fluent in more than one language. It opens up whole new worlds. I took a few years of Spanish and I want to go back and take classes and get fluent. Some of my favorite writers write in Spanish. I'd like to read the originals instead of translations. Spanish is a beautiful language to listen to as well. I especially like the rolled Rs. I remember watching a twenty something conducter on a train in Switzerland walking up and down the aisle and speaking to passengers fluently in Italian, German, French, and when he got to us, perfect English. I'd love to be able to do that. Latin and Greek would be nice too.

05-30-2008, 06:23 PM	#21
W*GS Ring of Famer Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Earth Posts: 19,601	I submit that the public education system teach English. It certainly doesn't do that anymore.

05-30-2008, 08:43 PM	#22
spdirty Ring of Famer Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bailey Posts: 13,923 Adopt-a-Bronco: Quentin Jammer	shlt, I just draw a picture,