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Old 04-27-2008, 04:01 AM   #1
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We've been in DIRE need of a returner. I remember many MANY MANY games where we just got crushed every time we had to play a field position game and people gained 20 or so yards each punt.

Hell, remember Seattle game 2 years ago? What a joke that was on ST. ST is a VERY important part of the game, and we just catapulted from pitiful to respectable with this pick. Not to mention the guy has great hands and speed and rout running ability, if he even shows up on offense this pick is awesome.

Sorry to break it, but even Calvin Johnson didn't contribute 90+ yards per game to detroit. Which I can see Royal EASILY giving us in returns and a few catches. This kid AVERAGED 23 yards per return if he's even half that we just improved STs a thousand times.

All you Royal haters need to back the **** up. Man up, and take me on my bet if youre going to diss this pick.

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If he cracks any of those, he'll be a huge impact on the team well worthy of a 2nd round pick.

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Old 04-27-2008, 04:36 AM   #2
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No way in hell I take that bet becuase like you i am a BEE-LEE-VUH!!!!!!!!

People must be judging him purely as a WR if they don't like this pick.
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Only a sucker would take that bet, if our swiss cheese defense continues to give up as many scores a game he'll get to 100 yds on KR's alone, even if he is nothing special.
Personally I like the player, at the time I thought it was a little early and would rather have taken Trevor Laws, but due to our lack of 3rd round pick I guess we had to pull the trigger.
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I love this pick. There isn't another guy on the board that would make a bigger impact for us next year than Eddie Royal. You could argue Desean Jackson, and I would agree that Jackson would have an equal impact on STs as a rookie. However, Royal's potential as a receiver in the Broncos system is much better \ than Jackson's, and he's a better character player.

Royal is the strongest receiver coming out, and will stick his nose in there and block. He's the prototypical slot man for what the Broncos want to do, and given how Stokely wore down over the year I can see Royal getting receiver reps as the season wears on.
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Old 04-27-2008, 09:32 AM   #5
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[QUOTE=Dedhed;1960730]I love this pick. There isn't another guy on the board that would make a bigger impact for us next year than Eddie Royal. You could argue Desean Jackson, and I would agree that Jackson would have an equal impact on STs as a rookie. However, Royal's potential as a receiver in the Broncos system is much better \ than Jackson's, and he's a better character player.QUOTE]

I dont know about that, there were a lot of S, DT, and LB on the board that could have been a lot better of a pick.

On the bet......I hate the pick, just because we got him with a high 2, could have traded down 10-15 spots got another 4th and still got him. I know he wont get 45 catches or 5+ TDs, but I think he will prob get the 100yd game apy. I hope everyone is right about this pick.
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Old 04-27-2008, 09:45 AM   #6
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I think most people's problem with this pick was the position it was taken, not the player himself. A second round pick better do everything you say because if we are going with Robertson as our fix for the DL, Royal will become a very important fixture.
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I think most people's problem with this pick was the position it was taken, not the player himself. A second round pick better do everything you say because if we are going with Robertson as our fix for the DL, Royal will become a very important fixture.

When you dont have any 3rd round picks you have to take the value. If we hadnt traded for Robertson than i could understand the concern. But, we did so we had already addressed that need to a point but we needed a ST's player and Royal was that guy. Why people complain about that pick when the Jackson's went in that same round baffles me. If we had not taken him we would be without one now. It would of been dumb to pass him up.
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When you dont have any 3rd round picks you have to take the value. If we hadnt traded for Robertson than i could understand the concern. But, we did so we had already addressed that need to a point but we needed a ST's player and Royal was that guy. Why people complain about that pick when the Jackson's went in that same round baffles me. If we had not taken him we would be without one now. It would of been dumb to pass him up.
I agree with this. We obviously had Royal as the top WR/KR on our board. Had we moved out of #42, it's likely Royal would've gone #49 and we'd be picking plan B. The problem is, early in the process Royal was a mid-rounder and people don't realize how he'd moved up in the weeks before the draft. In fact, PFW had him as a top-2nd round value and Scott Wright put him at #49 in his final mock. The Bronco's FO obviously weren't the only ones who had him valued in that range.
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Old 04-27-2008, 11:04 AM   #9
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I think this is a great pick. First he will improve the return game. He can then replace Stockley in a few years starting in the slot. If anything, 2 teams that put a premium on the slot are Indy with Stockley and now Gonzalez, and NE with Welker. Not a bad model to copy.
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Old 04-27-2008, 03:39 PM   #10
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Is this the year O'Brien becomes a ST genius again?

I like this kid.

Anyone notice on all the bios of our picks, they use the words "team leader" "respected by coaches" and "chosen by team mates?" We are picking guys who work very hard, gain the respect of their team, and have a high upside.

We might not get ESPN's draft award, but I feel like we are picking kids that will really help the team in the coming years.

I like Royal, field position is huge. Field position is huge. Field position is huge. I said it three freakin' times already - field position is huge. Let's take some heat off the O, with a little ST.

And, the huge "what if." What if, he really does work out as the next Steve Smith type? We all know Cutler had the cannon loaded and is always looking downfield. We haven't let our QB's challenge much downfield since we had Lelie. I like it.
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Old 04-27-2008, 05:21 PM   #11
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Not to bring up a sad subject, but remember when we drafted a CB by the name of D. Will? As I recall not too many people were thrilled with the idea of such a small corner or the idea of spending a 2nd on a pure returner.

We all know how well that pick worked out, and barring that terrible tragedy our team would be much stronger today than it is.

I would also like to point out the value of our recent 2nd rd picks.

D. Williams
T. Schefter/J. Walker
T. Crowder
E. Royal

And while I wasn't sold on him when I saw his name flash across the screen, after doing some research on him, I, for one, am content to wait and see how he pans out.

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Old 04-27-2008, 06:13 PM   #12
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The proof is in the pudding. I really like Crowder last year with a 2nd, and not everyone agreed(Khan). I have seen very little of Royal, so I have to wait and see. I know that if he is even a little better than average returner, he is already a steal, not counting WR skills.

He is needed on this team. Long drives for FG's, and short fields for other teams needs to end. Hope this is a step in the right direction.
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Notice how b****ass Wolf didn't show up.
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This guy rocked us every year (UVa) so I have the utmost respect. I like the player and will ignore when he was picked. Great to have you Eddie!!!
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If he turns out like this guy I'll be a happy camper:

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This guy rocked us every year (UVa) so I have the utmost respect. I like the player and will ignore when he was picked. Great to have you Eddie!!!
Another UVA fan!!!!!!! Im NOT ALONE!!!!!!!!!
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I still dont understand how some of you who say DEN reached for this guy dont get this pick.
Again, lets look at the WRs taken in the draft and KR specialists.

Chris Johnson(TENN) 1st round #24
Donnie Avery (STL) 2nd round #33
Jordy Nelson (GB) 2nd round #36
MeShean Jackson (PHI) 2nd round #49
Dexter Jackson (TB) 2nd round #58

Huh. Seems ALOT of teams are looking at field position as a HUGE priority to their teams success.
I also notice that alot of those 2nd round recievers fell past mese guys most of these guys due to the fact that they are not versatile in the kicking /field position game.
Jeez,CIN took WR Jerome Simpson ahead of most of the "marquee" WRs in this draft. CLearly, Shanny was on the same page when it came to the KR/WR position and its best players.
I like that hes doing his homework, and getting the guys he wants when he knows he needs to make a move.
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Offense Defense Special Teams. Looks as though we got some special teamers that might vastly improve our SP play
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I'm not hatin but it's ludicrus to think this guy is going to come in and light up the league with basically the same blocking unit's that have been sucking for the last 3-4 years but one can always hope for the best
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I'm not hatin but it's ludicrus to think this guy is going to come in and light up the league with basically the same blocking unit's that have been sucking for the last 3-4 years but one can always hope for the best

Not its not. Before Hester came to Chicago they had no return man that did the kind of damage he does. It wasnt even close. Yes, blocking is important but at the very least you need a guy who has a knack for finding the right hole to begin with and has the ability to change direction and CREATE a play on ST. So many times i saw Glenn Martinez running to the wrong spot or run out of bounds. My guess is dont hate until the guy has had the opportunity to prove himself. At least give him a chance to prove something before writing him off. It isnt like we've had a return specialist in Denver to begin with.
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This guy rocked us every year (UVa) so I have the utmost respect. I like the player and will ignore when he was picked. Great to have you Eddie!!!
It's been a long time since UVA has had much success against the Hokies.
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We've been in DIRE need of a returner. I remember many MANY MANY games where we just got crushed every time we had to play a field position game and people gained 20 or so yards each punt.

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I would sure hope you spent a pick that high on more than just a returner. If you are just looking for a potentially good return guy then Dorian Bryant from Purdue could have been had in the 7th round and now can be had as a UDFA.

As an IU guy I'm not a fan of Purdue football but I saw enough out of Bryant to realize he is a talented return guy and while undersized a decent WR. But Royal is also undersized and not as accomplished as a WR, granted Purdue is much more of a passing offense than VT however.

But overall very similar players and one went high in the second round and one went undrafted.
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Not its not. Before Hester came to Chicago they had no return man that did the kind of damage he does. It wasnt even close. Yes, blocking is important but at the very least you need a guy who has a knack for finding the right hole to begin with and has the ability to change direction and CREATE a play on ST. So many times i saw Glenn Martinez running to the wrong spot or run out of bounds. My guess is dont hate until the guy has had the opportunity to prove himself. At least give him a chance to prove something before writing him off. It isnt like we've had a return specialist in Denver to begin with.
Like i said I'm not hatin on him but until the blocking gets better it's just not going to happen and writing someone off before they ever play a down would be stupid and is not what i said
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I'm not hatin but it's ludicrus to think this guy is going to come in and light up the league with basically the same blocking unit's that have been sucking for the last 3-4 years but one can always hope for the best

Blocking on Special Teams is more about desire than anything else. You put a guy back there that the players know will take it to the house if they give him a chance and watch how much better the blocking gets.
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We've been in DIRE need of a returner. I remember many MANY MANY games where we just got crushed every time we had to play a field position game and people gained 20 or so yards each punt.

Hell, remember Seattle game 2 years ago? What a joke that was on ST. ST is a VERY important part of the game, and we just catapulted from pitiful to respectable with this pick. Not to mention the guy has great hands and speed and rout running ability, if he even shows up on offense this pick is awesome.

Sorry to break it, but even Calvin Johnson didn't contribute 90+ yards per game to detroit. Which I can see Royal EASILY giving us in returns and a few catches. This kid AVERAGED 23 yards per return if he's even half that we just improved STs a thousand times.

All you Royal haters need to back the **** up. Man up, and take me on my bet if youre going to diss this pick.

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If he cracks any of those, he'll be a huge impact on the team well worthy of a 2nd round pick.
Thats all great but there is absolutely no way in hell you need to spend a 2cnd round on him, I mean he was maybe the fifth best receiver in the draft and not even the best return guy. We have a slot guy in Stokely who is going to be in that position for at least three years and we dont have a true #2. That could have been addressed with Kelly, Manningham, etc and given a young weapon that lines up opposite Marshall. This was one of the WTF are you thinking moves, Royal as a third or fourth, ok but not as a second.

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