Calais Campbell- DE Miami - The Orange Mane

Malcontent · 04-23-2008, 08:12 PM

Our local sports radio jock had him on today. The guy is 6' 8" and 285lbs. Really fast. He is a Denver native that said he grew up a huge bronco fan, and it would be his lifes dream to be drafted by the Broncos. Anyone have a good read on this guys skill set? He said himself that he is a high motor guy with GOOD CHARACTER, and he has a deep love for the game. Loves to pound QBs into the turf...

TonyR · 04-23-2008, 08:28 PM

He's an early second round pick.

Dukes · 04-23-2008, 08:33 PM

Do we really need a DE?

Broncoman13 · 04-23-2008, 08:36 PM

5.0 40 is not fast!

TonyR · 04-23-2008, 08:39 PM

Potentially the boom or bust pick in the draft, Campbell has freakish size at close to 6-8 and 290 pounds. While he's not fast, he's a good athlete who has functional football speed with the ability to chase down ball-carriers. Ultra-productive, did it all his sophomore year with a whopping 84 tackles and 20.5 tackles for loss, and while his numbers dipped a bit last year, he still had a nice season. However, he's raw. He disappeared at times against the better tackles and he has to learn how to play like the biggest, baddest end around. Don't expect a Pro Bowl rookie season, but by year three he could end up being the best defensive lineman in this draft.

http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/8057722

Man-Goblin · 04-23-2008, 08:45 PM

Honestly, I know his strength numbers at the combine were low, but I would do back flips if they could get him in the 2nd.

kmonty · 04-23-2008, 08:53 PM

Very unlikely he's there in the 2nd round. If he falls, then absolutely, guy's a freak of nature.

Atlas · 04-24-2008, 01:19 AM

Does he play DT because Denver had enough DEs. They need to draft players that will play.

wabbit · 04-24-2008, 01:36 AM

NO DE's...Denver has DE's falling out the back of the bus.

Send him a letter thanking him for his interest in the Denver Broncos...I have one of those.

NO...bad Mike...Sit.

Popps · 04-24-2008, 01:45 AM

Wow, with all due respect to Wabbit... the idea that we've got plenty of DEs is absolute insanity.

We've literally got ZERO proven starters. Ekuban is old, coming off an injury and was marginal to begin with. Engleberger might very well be the worst starting DE in the NFL, or the NCAA for that matter. Moss busted his leg up and has a half-season under his belt. Crowder showed zero flashes as a rookie. Elvis is absolutely a situational player.

So, recapping, we have ZERO solid starters, one good role player a couple of absolute wild cards and a guy who must have photos of Bowlen. (Contract extention!?!!??!?)

Having a bunch of junky players doesn't mean you're solid at a position, it just means you have a bunch of junky players.

Popps · 04-24-2008, 01:46 AM

Though... I will agree, as bad as our DE situation is... DT is quite possibly worse, which is truly impressive.

wabbit · 04-24-2008, 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Popps

Wow, with all due respect to Wabbit... the idea that we've got plenty of DEs is absolute insanity.

We've literally got ZERO proven starters. Ekuban is old, coming off an injury and was marginal to begin with. Engleberger might very well be the worst starting DE in the NFL, or the NCAA for that matter. Moss busted his leg up and has a half-season under his belt. Crowder showed zero flashes as a rookie. Elvis is absolutely a situational player.

So, recapping, we have ZERO solid starters, one good role player a couple of absolute wild cards and a guy who must have photos of Bowlen. (Contract extention!?!!??!?)

Having a bunch of junky players doesn't mean you're solid at a position, it just means you have a bunch of junky players.

...and with all due respect to you, Popps, what makes you think a drafted rookie would be a 'proven' commodity??

Crowder showed many flashes as a rookie. I'm assuming Moss will give the team something. Ekuban is about 30...not even old by football standards, and I disagree completely over the worth of Engleberger.

No DEs...bigger needs loom...MUCH bigger needs.

FireFly · 04-24-2008, 03:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Popps

Wow, with all due respect to Wabbit... the idea that we've got plenty of DEs is absolute insanity.

We've literally got ZERO proven starters. Ekuban is old, coming off an injury and was marginal to begin with. Engleberger might very well be the worst starting DE in the NFL, or the NCAA for that matter. Moss busted his leg up and has a half-season under his belt. Crowder showed zero flashes as a rookie. Elvis is absolutely a situational player.

So, recapping, we have ZERO solid starters, one good role player a couple of absolute wild cards and a guy who must have photos of Bowlen. (Contract extention!?!!??!?)

Having a bunch of junky players doesn't mean you're solid at a position, it just means you have a bunch of junky players.

I (unlike the vast majority of posters on this board) agree with your assessment of Elivs and Engleberger - But Crowder? I don't know. He wasn't spectacular - but I don't think he was awful?

TheReverend · 04-24-2008, 03:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Popps

Though... I will agree, as bad as our DE situation is... DT is quite possibly worse, which is truly impressive.

I really think you should change your handle to "DebbieDowner" and Taco needs to institute a bloopers whammy sound effect that goes off when you post.

FireFly · 04-24-2008, 04:54 AM

And I believe that Ekuban is servicable. All in all, its a decent rotation - has the potential to be better than servicable as well.

If Campbell fell to us in the 2nd I'd be more than OK with us taking him, but its not position of need.

TheReverend · 04-24-2008, 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by bmcl2343

And I believe that Ekuban is servicable. All in all, its a decent rotation - has the potential to be better than servicable as well.

If Campbell fell to us in the 2nd I'd be more than OK with us taking him, but its not position of need.

No, it's not okay, and Popps usually has some good background with his rampant skepticism but this idea is absurd.

Okay, the claim is we have no one proven... so let's shelf 07's day one picks Jarvis and Crowder who are "unproven" with a year of NFL experience so we can grab another "unproven" rookie DE.

This is genius. Then next year we can draft another on day one because Calais is unproven.

Killericon · 04-24-2008, 08:37 AM

****... While we're at it, if Ryan drops to #12, let nab him up, too. Or maybe McKelvin. There's a Day one we can be proud of: McKelvin and Campbell...

Man-Goblin · 04-24-2008, 08:39 AM

I don't think it's a matter of them being unproven, I just think you can never have enough quality pass rushers.

Look at what the Giants did a few years ago. They had Strahan, Umenyiora and Justin Tuck but they still took Mathias Kiwinuka in the 1st round (who was strictly a DE at the time).

I remember wondering what the hell they were doing at the time, but now they have the best pass rush in the NFL and just won a Super Bowl.

Also, the Broncos do love guys that can rotate to the inside on pass rushing downs. Campbell can do it.

Popps · 04-24-2008, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by TheReverend

I really think you should change your handle to "DebbieDowner" and Taco needs to institute a bloopers whammy sound effect that goes off when you post.

Pretty funny.

But, as reality goes... I've been b****ing about the D-line for a pretty long time. We've got bright spots on the team, that just isn't one of them.

Sorry, I'm not a kool-aid guy.

Popps · 04-24-2008, 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheReverend

Nso llet's shelf 07's day one picks Jarvis and Crowder who are "unproven" with a year of NFL experience so we can grab another "unproven" rookie DE.

This is genius. Then next year we can draft another on day one because Calais is unproven.

Ahhh... the internet message board straw-man. As dependable as the sun rising every morning.

Look silly, I never said we should "shelf" anyone. What I said is, it's absurd to claim that we "don't need any help" at a position where we have absolutely zero proven starters and only a couple of questionable youngsters.

Our d-line is horrible, and you know what... it MIGHT take more than a couple of draft picks in a decade to fix it.

TheReverend · 04-24-2008, 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Popps

Pretty funny.

But, as reality goes... I've been b****ing about the D-line for a pretty long time. We've got bright spots on the team, that just isn't one of them.

Sorry, I'm not a kool-aid guy.

I agree that ya have and I agree with several of your points. DE isn't one of em.

Popps · 04-24-2008, 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bmcl2343

I (unlike the vast majority of posters on this board) agree with your assessment of Elivs and Engleberger - But Crowder? I don't know. He wasn't spectacular - but I don't think he was awful?

He wasn't awful, just invisible all season long.

Someone here made a great point recently. You didn't have to wonder if Elvis was going to contribute to this team. He showed flashes right out of the gate.

I'm not saying Crowder won't contribute. Hell, he's probably already better than Engleberger. I'm just saying that banking on him for anything specific is illogical at this point, and assuming that a couple of rookies... one with a busted up leg means we're "fine" at a position.

TheReverend · 04-24-2008, 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Popps

Ahhh... the internet message board straw-man. As dependable as the sun rising every morning.

Look silly, I never said we should "shelf" anyone. What I said is, it's absurd to claim that we "don't need any help" at a position where we have absolutely zero proven starters and only a couple of questionable youngsters.

Our d-line is horrible, and you know what... it MIGHT take more than a couple of draft picks in a decade to fix it.

So if we have zero proven starters at DE, why are you wanting to throw more picks at unproven starters until our current players show what kind of commodity they are when we could use that pick in areas that have much less "unproven" depth or are a proven subpar commodity.

Rant all you want about the D-line and what we need but if our roster consists of Cutler and 52 DE's... we're not going far.

TheReverend · 04-24-2008, 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Popps

He wasn't awful, just invisible all season long.

Someone here made a great point recently. You didn't have to wonder if Elvis was going to contribute to this team. He showed flashes right out of the gate.

I'm not saying Crowder won't contribute. Hell, he's probably already better than Engleberger. I'm just saying that banking on him for anything specific is illogical at this point, and assuming that a couple of rookies... one with a busted up leg means we're "fine" at a position.

Crowder wasn't picked to make the flashy plays.

Elvis was.

Billy Clyde Puckett · 04-24-2008, 08:52 AM

If he is there in the second, draft him and move him inside. He is about equal physically to Trevor Pryce in his prime.

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04-23-2008, 08:12 PM	#1
Malcontent Life....on tap. Got Mustard? Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Phoenix Posts: 1,931 Adopt-a-Bronco: Chad Mustard	Calais Campbell- DE Miami Our local sports radio jock had him on today. The guy is 6' 8" and 285lbs. Really fast. He is a Denver native that said he grew up a huge bronco fan, and it would be his lifes dream to be drafted by the Broncos. Anyone have a good read on this guys skill set? He said himself that he is a high motor guy with GOOD CHARACTER, and he has a deep love for the game. Loves to pound QBs into the turf...

04-23-2008, 08:28 PM	#2
TonyR Franchise Poster Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Mid-Atlantic Posts: 15,572	He's an early second round pick.

04-23-2008, 08:33 PM	#3
Dukes Ring of Famer Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 6,317	Do we really need a DE?

04-23-2008, 08:36 PM	#4
Broncoman13 Broncoholic JT #80 Join Date: May 2001 Location: Colorado Posts: 16,961 Adopt-a-Bronco: Orange Julius	5.0 40 is not fast!

04-23-2008, 08:39 PM	#5
TonyR Franchise Poster Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Mid-Atlantic Posts: 15,572	Potentially the boom or bust pick in the draft, Campbell has freakish size at close to 6-8 and 290 pounds. While he's not fast, he's a good athlete who has functional football speed with the ability to chase down ball-carriers. Ultra-productive, did it all his sophomore year with a whopping 84 tackles and 20.5 tackles for loss, and while his numbers dipped a bit last year, he still had a nice season. However, he's raw. He disappeared at times against the better tackles and he has to learn how to play like the biggest, baddest end around. Don't expect a Pro Bowl rookie season, but by year three he could end up being the best defensive lineman in this draft. http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/8057722

04-23-2008, 08:45 PM	#6
Man-Goblin Giving You The Business Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Huntersville, NC Posts: 5,589 Adopt-a-Bronco: Woodyard	Honestly, I know his strength numbers at the combine were low, but I would do back flips if they could get him in the 2nd.

04-23-2008, 08:53 PM	#7
kmonty BT Blogger Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Flagstaff, AZ Posts: 1,113 Adopt-a-Bronco: Sweet Feet	Very unlikely he's there in the 2nd round. If he falls, then absolutely, guy's a freak of nature.

04-24-2008, 01:19 AM	#8
Atlas Draft Defense Early&Often Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 18,526	Does he play DT because Denver had enough DEs. They need to draft players that will play.

04-24-2008, 01:36 AM	#9
wabbit Ring of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Aurora Posts: 5,449	NO DE's...Denver has DE's falling out the back of the bus. Send him a letter thanking him for his interest in the Denver Broncos...I have one of those. NO...bad Mike...Sit.

04-24-2008, 01:45 AM	#10
Popps TEAM FIRST. Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 29,785	Wow, with all due respect to Wabbit... the idea that we've got plenty of DEs is absolute insanity. We've literally got ZERO proven starters. Ekuban is old, coming off an injury and was marginal to begin with. Engleberger might very well be the worst starting DE in the NFL, or the NCAA for that matter. Moss busted his leg up and has a half-season under his belt. Crowder showed zero flashes as a rookie. Elvis is absolutely a situational player. So, recapping, we have ZERO solid starters, one good role player a couple of absolute wild cards and a guy who must have photos of Bowlen. (Contract extention!?!!??!?) Having a bunch of junky players doesn't mean you're solid at a position, it just means you have a bunch of junky players.

04-24-2008, 01:46 AM	#11
Popps TEAM FIRST. Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 29,785	Though... I will agree, as bad as our DE situation is... DT is quite possibly worse, which is truly impressive.

04-24-2008, 04:54 AM	#15
FireFly Ring of Famer The window is open! Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,683	And I believe that Ekuban is servicable. All in all, its a decent rotation - has the potential to be better than servicable as well. If Campbell fell to us in the 2nd I'd be more than OK with us taking him, but its not position of need.

04-24-2008, 08:37 AM	#17
Killericon YES A DT!!!!!! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: From Calgary, in Halifax for School Posts: 7,730 Adopt-a-Bronco: watermock	****... While we're at it, if Ryan drops to #12, let nab him up, too. Or maybe McKelvin. There's a Day one we can be proud of: McKelvin and Campbell...

04-24-2008, 08:39 AM	#18
Man-Goblin Giving You The Business Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Huntersville, NC Posts: 5,589 Adopt-a-Bronco: Woodyard	I don't think it's a matter of them being unproven, I just think you can never have enough quality pass rushers. Look at what the Giants did a few years ago. They had Strahan, Umenyiora and Justin Tuck but they still took Mathias Kiwinuka in the 1st round (who was strictly a DE at the time). I remember wondering what the hell they were doing at the time, but now they have the best pass rush in the NFL and just won a Super Bowl. Also, the Broncos do love guys that can rotate to the inside on pass rushing downs. Campbell can do it.

04-24-2008, 08:52 AM	#25
Billy Clyde Puckett Billy=Semi Tough Big Guy Looking down on KC, SD and Oakland Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: between 5,000 and 10,000 feet elevation Posts: 12,665 Adopt-a-Bronco: John Elway	If he is there in the second, draft him and move him inside. He is about equal physically to Trevor Pryce in his prime.