Vikings Chefs make the trade for Mr. DUI - The Orange Mane

UltimateHoboW/Shotgun · 04-22-2008, 10:08 PM

on NFL network right now on the ticker

rovolution · 04-22-2008, 10:10 PM

Cutler will put up huge #'s on this team.

I have already proclaimed Cutler the Kansas City Killer and this name will endure for many more years to come.

BroncoMan4ever · 04-22-2008, 10:10 PM

what did they trade for him

spdirty · 04-22-2008, 10:10 PM

Long Live King Carl!!!!!!!

no-pseudo-fan · 04-22-2008, 10:11 PM

What did they get?

brncs_fan · 04-22-2008, 10:12 PM

Sweet!

The Chiefs _efense returns

CBF1 · 04-22-2008, 10:13 PM

LMAO, atleast they have a great offensive line left........... errrrr wait, that is long gone as well

CHANGSTER · 04-22-2008, 10:13 PM

Hey chef fans, whats the word on what they got for him?

24champ · 04-22-2008, 10:13 PM

Gotta love the 20-30 year plan King Carl has implemented in Krap City.

ohiobronco2 · 04-22-2008, 10:14 PM

I don't think compensation has been announced yet.

sixtimeseight · 04-22-2008, 10:16 PM

Wow, their draft pick just went from #5 this year to #1 next year. I honestly can't see that team winning more than 2 games.

Looks like they're on the San Diego plan for assembling a winning team, pick in the top ten five years in a row.

UltimateHoboW/Shotgun · 04-22-2008, 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BroncoMan4ever

what did they trade for him

ticker hasn't updated yet. if carl is as smart as bob it'll be for a 2nd and a case of jd.

bpc · 04-22-2008, 10:20 PM

God i'm hoping for another couple Ryan Simms type picks.

montrose · 04-22-2008, 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BroncoMan4ever

what did they trade for him

The compensation they had been rumoring in recent days was the Vikings 1st and either their 3rd this year or a 2nd next year. Not sure what package KC went for.

As for laughing at the Chiefs, I hate to say it but they made the right move guys. They, like the Broncos, won't be making a Super Bowl run during the next 1-2 years as the gap between NE, Indy and SD (let alone Pit and Jax) is too great to make up in that time. Two years from now, Jared Allen is highly unlikely to be putting up the same production he is now and will be counting much more against the cap. Instead of getting the guy back on a 1 year tender and watching him walk, bringing him back on a 1 year tender and giving him a big deal next year or giving him a big deal now, the Chiefs get some valuable assets for him that they hope will be coming into their prime in a few seasons when the teams currently at the top of the AFC would be coming down.

SoCalBronco · 04-22-2008, 10:23 PM

It's a 1st and two 3rds per NFLN.

Very good deal for the Chiefs.

UltimateHoboW/Shotgun · 04-22-2008, 10:24 PM

updated 1st and 2x3rd this year. thats all.

jayman_37 · 04-22-2008, 10:25 PM

I agree with Montrose I think that this is actually good for the chiefs. They are beginning to try and build around a young core that they can assemble through the draft now. This also helps them save the money that you have to pay a top notch DE in the league.

They could draft two linemen in the first round or if Ryan falls to them they can take him and still get a good OT in the first round and possibly early in the second. Then in the second round they could look at Hardy if he is still around. That would significantly upgrade their offense with one or maybe two OL in the first and another WR in the second to go with Bowe. They would be pretty good in a year or two.

ohiobronco2 · 04-22-2008, 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by montrose

The compensation they had been rumoring in recent days was the Vikings 1st and either their 3rd this year or a 2nd next year. Not sure what package KC went for.

As for laughing at the Chiefs, I hate to say it but they made the right move guys. They, like the Broncos, won't be making a Super Bowl run during the next 1-2 years as the gap between NE, Indy and SD (let alone Pit and Jax) is too great to make up in that time. Two years from now, Jared Allen is highly unlikely to be putting up the same production he is now and will be counting much more against the cap. Instead of getting the guy back on a 1 year tender and watching him walk, bringing him back on a 1 year tender and giving him a big deal next year or giving him a big deal now, the Chiefs get some valuable assets for him that they hope will be coming into their prime in a few seasons when the teams currently at the top of the AFC would be coming down.

Exactly. They did make the right move. Is Allen an amazing player, sure, but he is one DUI away from a year long suspension and Carl pretty much ensured that Allen would never play for the Chiefs because he most likely was giving him a low ball offer. I would worry if it was anybody other than Carl making the draft selections, but the Chiefs made the right move and with some luck could get a pretty solid core out of this draft.

SoDak Bronco · 04-22-2008, 10:27 PM

they get one of our 3rd rounders from the marcus thomas trade

SoDak Bronco · 04-22-2008, 10:28 PM

we will see in a few years but the chefs have a lot of pressure on this years rookie class...

TheDave · 04-22-2008, 10:36 PM

I respect the opinion of my fellow draftniks here...BUT... I don't care what they get in return. The cheifs will spend the next 10 years trying to replace him. You do not give up one of the better pass rushers in the game for a #1 and 2 #3's. There are certian positions on the field you do not give up on. Pro-Bowl DE's in their prime are close to the top of that list.

Just as we laughed at the people suggesting that we trade Champ this is just as laughable.

cutthemdown · 04-22-2008, 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoCalBronco

It's a 1st and two 3rds per NFLN.

Very good deal for the Chiefs.

As long as you find a really good player with at least one of the picks.

SoCalBronco · 04-22-2008, 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDave

I respect the opinion of my fellow draftniks here...BUT... I don't care what they get in return. The cheifs will spend the next 10 years trying to replace him. You do not give up one of the better pass rushers in the game for a #1 and 2 #3's. There are certian positions on the field you do not give up on. Pro-Bowl DE's in their prime are close to the top of that list.

Just as we laughed at the people suggesting that we trade Champ this is just as laughable.

Would you still hold this position if they got Bea Arthur with the Vikings first rounder? In that case, the two extra 3rds would just be gravy.

jayman_37 · 04-22-2008, 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDave

I respect the opinion of my fellow draftniks here...BUT... I don't care what they get in return. The cheifs will spend the next 10 years trying to replace him. You do not give up one of the better pass rushers in the game for a #1 and 2 #3's. There are certian positions on the field you do not give up on. Pro-Bowl DE's in their prime are close to the top of that list.

Just as we laughed at the people suggesting that we trade Champ this is just as laughable.

What money would they be spending on a guy that has a couple strikes against him already with the dui's?

Didn't Freeney get over 10 mil a year? Thats a lotta change on a guy with questionable character.

TheDave · 04-22-2008, 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoCalBronco

Would you still hold this position if they got Bea Arthur with the Vikings first rounder? In that case, the two extra 3rds would just be gravy.

Now if the vikes were really throwing Bea into the mix then this trade beats out the Herschel Walker deal as the greatest rape job in NFL history.

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04-22-2008, 10:08 PM	#1
UltimateHoboW/Shotgun KKKAAAAAHHHNNNNN!!!!!!!!! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Gensis Planet Posts: 4,263	Vikings Chefs make the trade for Mr. DUI on NFL network right now on the ticker

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rovolution Ring of Famer Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Colorado Springs, CO Posts: 2,949 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	Cutler will put up huge #'s on this team. I have already proclaimed Cutler the Kansas City Killer and this name will endure for many more years to come.

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BroncoMan4ever Ring of Famer Here to chew bubblegum and kick ass Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Denver Posts: 11,572 Adopt-a-Bronco: VIRGIL GREEN!!!	what did they trade for him

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spdirty Ring of Famer Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bailey Posts: 13,903 Adopt-a-Bronco: Koppen	Long Live King Carl!!!!!!!

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no-pseudo-fan True Orange & Blue Follow me... Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: EPT Posts: 2,136 Adopt-a-Bronco: Hidalgo	What did they get?

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brncs_fan How about some Tapenade! Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: The Coaches Cradle...Eastern Illinois University Posts: 5,490 Adopt-a-Bronco: Manti Teo	Sweet! The Chiefs _efense returns

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CBF1 Ring of Famer No avatar is the new avatar Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: SoCal Posts: 14,907 Adopt-a-Bronco: Jack Del rio	LMAO, atleast they have a great offensive line left........... errrrr wait, that is long gone as well

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CHANGSTER You are a pizza burn... on the roof of the world's mouth Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: SD Posts: 1,531	Hey chef fans, whats the word on what they got for him?

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24champ Livin' the dream! Methwolfe Alliance Captain Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Southern California Posts: 18,550 Adopt-a-Bronco: DomCasual	Gotta love the 20-30 year plan King Carl has implemented in Krap City.

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04-22-2008, 10:16 PM	#11
sixtimeseight Ring of Famer Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,872	Wow, their draft pick just went from #5 this year to #1 next year. I honestly can't see that team winning more than 2 games. Looks like they're on the San Diego plan for assembling a winning team, pick in the top ten five years in a row.

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bpc "Nemo Me Impune Lacessit" 1 sword keeps another in the sheath Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Northern California Posts: 12,570 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	God i'm hoping for another couple Ryan Simms type picks.

04-22-2008, 10:24 PM	#16
UltimateHoboW/Shotgun KKKAAAAAHHHNNNNN!!!!!!!!! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Gensis Planet Posts: 4,263	updated 1st and 2x3rd this year. thats all.

04-22-2008, 10:25 PM	#17
jayman_37 Seasoned Veteran Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Wichita, KS Posts: 420	I agree with Montrose I think that this is actually good for the chiefs. They are beginning to try and build around a young core that they can assemble through the draft now. This also helps them save the money that you have to pay a top notch DE in the league. They could draft two linemen in the first round or if Ryan falls to them they can take him and still get a good OT in the first round and possibly early in the second. Then in the second round they could look at Hardy if he is still around. That would significantly upgrade their offense with one or maybe two OL in the first and another WR in the second to go with Bowe. They would be pretty good in a year or two.

04-22-2008, 10:27 PM	#19
SoDak Bronco Lace em' up and lets go!! Von Miller aka QB Killa Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: South Dakota Posts: 4,132 Adopt-a-Bronco: Robert Ayers	they get one of our 3rd rounders from the marcus thomas trade

04-22-2008, 10:28 PM	#20
SoDak Bronco Lace em' up and lets go!! Von Miller aka QB Killa Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: South Dakota Posts: 4,132 Adopt-a-Bronco: Robert Ayers	we will see in a few years but the chefs have a lot of pressure on this years rookie class...

04-22-2008, 10:36 PM	#21
TheDave Sauced... Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 15,120	I respect the opinion of my fellow draftniks here...BUT... I don't care what they get in return. The cheifs will spend the next 10 years trying to replace him. You do not give up one of the better pass rushers in the game for a #1 and 2 #3's. There are certian positions on the field you do not give up on. Pro-Bowl DE's in their prime are close to the top of that list. Just as we laughed at the people suggesting that we trade Champ this is just as laughable.