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Old 04-16-2008, 09:45 AM   #1
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on the 2008 Monday Night Schedule:

"This one has 'potential blowout' written all over it, but I'm certainly hoping that's not the case. The Patriots were involved in the best MNF game last season, and perhaps Jay Cutler and Brandon 'Quarter Pounder' Marshall will make them work for this one."

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Old 04-16-2008, 09:56 AM   #2
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on the 2008 Monday Night Schedule:

"This one has 'potential blowout' written all over it, but I'm certainly hoping that's not the case. The Patriots were involved in the best MNF game last season, and perhaps Jay Cutler and Brandon 'Quarter Pounder' Marshall will make them work for this one."

Matt Mosley, ESPN.com
Matt is obviously unaware that Broncos are undefeated in Gillette Stadium.
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Old 04-16-2008, 09:59 AM   #3
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Matt is obviously unaware that Broncos are undefeated in Gillette Stadium.


another espn employee that didn't do his homework

who knew?
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I recall some media folks that predicted the Broncos wouldn't make the playoff two years ago and they were "idiots" also...right up to the point where they turned out to be correct.
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So objectively you think the game in Foxboro is going to be close? Of course I hope the Broncos win, but the Pats were pretty good last year and this definitely could be a blowout.

I don't think Mosley said anything that "idiotic".
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I recall some media folks that predicted the Broncos wouldn't make the playoff two years ago and they were "idiots" also...right up to the point where they turned out to be correct.
Thats the great thing about being in a division with K.C. Misery loves company.
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So objectively you think the game in Foxboro is going to be close? Of course I hope the Broncos win, but the Pats were pretty good last year and this definitely could be a blowout.

I don't think Mosley said anything that "idiotic".
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Old 04-16-2008, 10:20 AM   #8
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Blowout?
Denver plays NE very well, Shanahan is the Master of attacking the holes in the NE defense. Remember We took the eventual Superbowl Champ Patriots to the Brink with Danny Kannel at QB, I think that says enough.
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So objectively you think the game in Foxboro is going to be close? Of course I hope the Broncos win, but the Pats were pretty good last year and this definitely could be a blowout.

I don't think Mosley said anything that "idiotic".
I don't necessarily disagree... The Patriots offense is far more potent than they were a couple years back when we beat them. The Broncos defense on the other hand, (until they prove differently) is playing a LOT worse.

I'm going to be at this game so I certainly hope it's not a blowout.
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The last time the Pats came even close to blowing the Broncos out was in 2000. And even that was an 9 pt game.
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Old 04-16-2008, 10:33 AM   #11
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I recall some media folks that predicted the Broncos wouldn't make the playoff two years ago and they were "idiots" also...right up to the point where they turned out to be correct.
Yep, two years ago the Chiefs were nice enough to take the Broncos' place as Indy's whipping post in the playoffs. Thanks for that.
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Old 04-16-2008, 10:35 AM   #12
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I recall some media folks that predicted the Broncos wouldn't make the playoff two years ago and they were "idiots" also...right up to the point where they turned out to be correct.
2 seasons ago? That was the AFC Championship Appearance


The Chorfs havent sniffed one of those since the 1993 season
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Old 04-16-2008, 10:40 AM   #13
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I don't necessarily disagree... The Patriots offense is far more potent than they were a couple years back when we beat them. The Broncos defense on the other hand, (until they prove differently) is playing a LOT worse.

I'm going to be at this game so I certainly hope it's not a blowout.
Denver matches up great against the New England Patriots.
Even with their improved roster the defensive matchups remains the same. Bailey on Moss and Bly defends Welker.
They still attack the same on offense even though they have better players.
Since they are not that run commited they would have to do something way different than what they are good at to exploit Denvers run defense.
Team rarely do that, and if they do they arent as successful because they havent had the time practice to make it work.

On offense they are still vulnerable to the tight end. Especially the two TE sets which Shanahan is great at exploiting. They also have small corners who struggle somewhat with the timed WCO receiver patterns as the receiver gets his back to the cb.
A lot of their defense is to attack at the point and if/when a commited run defense play them, they are as any team vulnerable to the playaction and bootleg.
Their biggest strength is their d-line and if the Ol manage to get to the second level, their slow linebackers are vulnerable to the one cut and go.
But they are a great team nonetheless and are often able to stop us on offense through basically their line clutter the holes and gets some pass rush.
I think the matchups favors us if there was one favorite, and that is somewhat negated by the fact that their individual player talent surpasses us.

In short our strengths matches theirs on defense while their offense struggles more against our defensive strengths. Thus, the end result usually ends up to become very even games.

On the other hand Indianapolis and Denver has way different strengths. The matchups are exploitable on both sides, which means that if we are able to score early, we will exploit their weak run defense. However, if they score early and make us rely on the pass, their speed on defense and excellent pass rush make us very vulnerable.
When those teams meet it usually means a pretty convincing victory either way.

At least that is the way I have always thought to explain why we play great against NE but usually struggle a lot with Indianapolis.
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At least that is the way I have always thought to explain why we play great against NE but usually struggle a lot with Indianapolis.
Its a theory.

Single gunman. Grassy knoll.
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Old 04-16-2008, 10:51 AM   #15
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idiotic?

i know we (in the past) have played the Patsies tough...but to call a guy "idiotic" for expecting a blow out between a non playoff team and a 16-1 AFC champion in Gillette is well....idiotic...

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2 seasons ago? That was the AFC Championship Appearance


The Chorfs havent sniffed one of those since the 1993 season

AFC Championship appearance by who? Sure as heck wasn't the Broncos. That was the year they $hit themselves in week 17 and let the sorry old Chiefs team back into the playoffs.
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Yeah, I may disagree with the asessment, but it's understandable that someone may take that stance.
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Denver matches up great against the New England Patriots.
Even with their improved roster the defensive matchups remains the same. Bailey on Moss and Bly defends Welker.
They still attack the same on offense even though they have better players.
Since they are not that run commited they would have to do something way different than what they are good at to exploit Denvers run defense.
Team rarely do that, and if they do they arent as successful because they havent had the time practice to make it work.

On offense they are still vulnerable to the tight end. Especially the two TE sets which Shanahan is great at exploiting. They also have small corners who struggle somewhat with the timed WCO receiver patterns as the receiver gets his back to the cb.
A lot of their defense is to attack at the point and if/when a commited run defense play them, they are as any team vulnerable to the playaction and bootleg.
Their biggest strength is their d-line and if the Ol manage to get to the second level, their slow linebackers are vulnerable to the one cut and go.
But they are a great team nonetheless and are often able to stop us on offense through basically their line clutter the holes and gets some pass rush.
I think the matchups favors us if there was one favorite, and that is somewhat negated by the fact that their individual player talent surpasses us.

In short our strengths matches theirs on defense while their offense struggles more against our defensive strengths. Thus, the end result usually ends up to become very even games.

On the other hand Indianapolis and Denver has way different strengths. The matchups are exploitable on both sides, which means that if we are able to score early, we will exploit their weak run defense. However, if they score early and make us rely on the pass, their speed on defense and excellent pass rush make us very vulnerable.
When those teams meet it usually means a pretty convincing victory either way.

At least that is the way I have always thought to explain why we play great against NE but usually struggle a lot with Indianapolis.


Pretty good breakdown here as I have had to explain this same thing to others as well. The only thing I would add is that NE can run when they have to when their RBs are healthy and if our line is no better than it was last year that is all they will need to turn us out.
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Old 04-16-2008, 11:04 AM   #19
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I think if there's one guy working for ESPN that isn't a total tool, it's Matt Mosley (that writer). Although he spends way too much time focusing on his old Cowboys.

Bly on Welker worries me.
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Its a theory.

Single gunman. Grassy knoll.
of course its a theory...... thats even why I felt I had to add that last statement to highlight its just an opinion....


What does "Single gunman. Grassy knoll" mean?
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on the 2008 Monday Night Schedule:

"This one has 'potential blowout' written all over it, but I'm certainly hoping that's not the case. The Patriots were involved in the best MNF game last season, and perhaps Jay Cutler and Brandon 'Quarter Pounder' Marshall will make them work for this one."

Matt Mosley, ESPN.com
So why is stating some truth on a game being an idiot? Just because someone says something about the broncos that hurts your feelings doesn't mean he is an idiot. This game does have potential for blowout. NE is a very potent team and Denver is in rebuild mode.
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2 seasons ago? That was the AFC Championship Appearance


The Chorfs havent sniffed one of those since the 1993 season
3 seasons ago was the AFC CHAMP appearance.
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Its on our defensive linemen. We dont know what level Moss, Crowder and Dumervil will be playing at. We are one team that actually has depth at CB. Another variable is how Cutler handles the different looks playing NE presents. IF Jay throws picks, thats a huge wildcard. When we played NE with Plummer, Plummer didnt really make THAT many mistakes. But hopefully we'll have a running game against them. That would help immensely.
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