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Old 04-15-2008, 04:05 AM   #1
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Default Kuper a Workout Warrior at LT

Looking back at Chris Kuper's workout numbers as a NFL prospect, I think we can take a lot of solace that he's likely to have the speed, quickness and athleticism to succeed at left tackle.


40 YD Dash

1. Chris Kuper---5.10
2.a Chris Williams---5.17
2.b Jake Long------5.17
3. Ryan Clady------5.18
4. Jeff Otah--------5.56




10 YD Dash

1. Long--------1.76
2.a Kuper------1.78
2.b Williams----1.78
3. Clady-------1.81




20 YD Dash

1.a Kuper-----2.96
1.b Clady-----2.96
2. Long-------2.97
3. Williams----2.98




Short Shuttle
(Joe Thomas ran a 4.88, but, to be fair, this is one of two exercises that Kuper beats him at. Thomas ran a 4.88.)
1. Kuper------4.60
2.a Clady-----4.73
2.b Long------4.73
3. Williams----4.85
4. Thomas----4.88




3 Cone

1. Clady------7.09
2. Long-------7.44
3. Kuper------7.59
4. Cherlius----7.60
5.a Williams---7.95
5.b Thomas---7.95




Bench

1. Long---------37
2.a Kuper-------24
2.b Clady-------24
3. Williams------21




Vertical Jump

1. Clady---------31''
2. Kuper---------30''
3. Long----------27.5''
4. Williams-------25''
5. Cherlius-------23''
6. Otah----------22.5''




Long Jump

1. Kuper--------9'1''
2. Clady----------9'
3. Williams------8'7''
4.a Long--------8'6''
4.b Cherlius-----8'6''


So, in each athletic drill, Kuper puts up an amazing number. If any of this year's hyped up prospects had pulled this at the combine, his stock would have absolutely skyrocketed to another level. Having said all that, I'm still not sure we shouldn't draft OL anyway. But it's good to know that, if necessary, Kuper is likely to be a very able tackle.



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Old 04-15-2008, 04:11 AM   #2
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Wow that is interesting, thanks.
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Old 04-15-2008, 05:31 AM   #3
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That makes me feel worse.
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Great info, thanks. Puts things in a different light, IMO.
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No, No, No!!! He has to play right tackle because he's stronger than Harris. All strong people play the right side. And since he came from a small school, he can't have the necessary athleticism to play on the left. Don't let your silly facts and apples-to-apples comparisons mess up the myopic group thought of the Mane!
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Old 04-15-2008, 07:16 AM   #6
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No, No, No!!! He has to play right tackle because he's stronger than Harris. All strong people play the right side. And since he came from a small school, he can't have the necessary athleticism to play on the left. Don't let your silly facts and apples-to-apples comparisons mess up the myopic group thought of the Mane!
What concerns me about this is that he put up these combine numbers and went in the 5th.
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Old 04-15-2008, 07:23 AM   #7
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This is gonna be a tough year for Donk fans.
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Old 04-15-2008, 07:41 AM   #8
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"Even a journey of a 1000 miles, starts with 1 step"

Denver is going to be better this year, 10-6 at least. Can not say as much for the Cheifs.
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Old 04-15-2008, 07:45 AM   #9
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No, No, No!!! He has to play right tackle because he's stronger than Harris. All strong people play the right side. And since he came from a small school, he can't have the necessary athleticism to play on the left. Don't let your silly facts and apples-to-apples comparisons mess up the myopic group thought of the Mane!
I think the desire to having him play RT comes from the fact that Harris and Pears both aren't strong enough to handle RT, not that Kuper can't handle LT.

We saw it last year with Pears, the bigger ends on that side punked him every game. Harris could handle it if he gets fully healthy again, but after two back surgeries and spending most of his senior season over 20 pounds underweight I'll believe it when I see it.
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Old 04-15-2008, 07:46 AM   #10
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The most important thing about these numbers are not one specific drill, or showing lateral movement or even fluid hips...

What IS important about these numbers is that they show GREAT explosion from him.
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Denver is going to be better this year, 10-6 at least. Can not say as much for the Cheifs.
10-6?

No way.
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Old 04-15-2008, 08:02 AM   #12
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at my very most optimistic i see this as HOPEFULLY being like another Lepsis.

That being said, i want a T drafted. I don't care, you need talent and pears sucks, and really who the hell knows how kuper & harris will pan out either.
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Ask Mike Malamula how meaningful combine stats are
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Well, if he can't play tackle I guess he can be on Battle of the network stars.
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I think maybe there are some members of this board who are just crying wolf. I cannot believe that the coaching staff don't have an idea of what they are doing, nor what the potential of the players might be. There was a time when Kuper's selection was touted here so highly, that you'd thought the Broncos had drafted the future GOAT Lineman. Now he is coming into his own, and he gets bad press and is scoffed at here. I hope he is all-pro at the position soon....

I still think the Broncos will go for Mendenhall at 1, and an OT in 2, maybe a DT if they don't sign Robertson..........
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Ask Mike Malamula how meaningful combine stats are
They were pretty meaningful for his bank account.
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Old 04-15-2008, 08:55 AM   #17
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Great post, go Kupe!

Maybe we can draft a big nasty RT in the second.
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Old 04-15-2008, 08:58 AM   #18
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very interesting, thanks for sharing. Makes me feel better. Not every solid OL starter has gone on the first day.
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This is no 'group think' - I watched the offensive line closely last year. I watched a DVR'd version of the Chargers Christmas Eve game as late as last week. Kuper at LT seriously scares me. I'm not confident in any way that he could make that transition. I could be wrong, but I didn't see anything to make me believe that.

So I think Denver has a rare opportunity where the highest person on their board might just be among their very large needs. This tackle class is deep and talented, and it just seems to me like too good an opportunity to pass up.

Hell, if they traded up for Clady I'd be stoked. The guy's a beast.
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This is no 'group think' - I watched the offensive line closely last year. I watched a DVR'd version of the Chargers Christmas Eve game as late as last week. Kuper at LT seriously scares me. I'm not confident in any way that he could make that transition. I could be wrong, but I didn't see anything to make me believe that.
What games did you watch? By the end of the season Kuper and Myers were killing people.
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Haha that is nice..That is the name of my son, and what I call him, although it is spelled, super COOPER!!!
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This is no 'group think' - I watched the offensive line closely last year. I watched a DVR'd version of the Chargers Christmas Eve game as late as last week. Kuper at LT seriously scares me. I'm not confident in any way that he could make that transition. I could be wrong, but I didn't see anything to make me believe that.
Guys whose only job is to evaluate professional linemen can't reliably determine how a guy will fare at offensive tackle facing DEs as opposed to playing offensive guard while facing the DTs......but you can. Interesting.
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Looking back at Chris Kuper's workout numbers as a NFL prospect, I think we can take a lot of solace that he's likely to have the speed, quickness and athleticism to succeed at left tackle.


40 YD Dash

1. Chris Kuper---5.10
2.a Chris Williams---5.17
2.b Jake Long------5.17
3. Ryan Clady------5.18
4. Jeff Otah--------5.56




10 YD Dash

1. Long--------1.76
2.a Kuper------1.78
2.b Williams----1.78
3. Clady-------1.76




20 YD Dash

1.a Kuper-----2.96
1.b Clady-----2.96
2. Long-------2.97
3. Williams----2.98




Short Shuttle
(Joe Thomas ran a 4.88, but, to be fair this is one of two exercises that Kuper beats him at. Thomas ran a 4.88.)
1. Kuper------4.60
2.a Clady-----4.73
2.b Long------4.73
3. Williams----4.85
4. Thomas----4.88




3 Cone: 7.59

1. Clady------7.09
2. Long-------7.44
3. Kuper------7.59
4. Cherlius----7.60
5.a Williams---7.95
5.b Thomas---7.95




Bench

1. Long---------37
2.a Kuper-------24
2.b Clady-------24
3. Williams------21




Vertical Jump

1. Clady---------31''
2. Kuper---------30''
3. Long----------27.5''
4. Williams-------25''
5. Cherlius-------23''
6. Otah----------22.5''




Long Jump: 9'1''

1. Kuper--------9'1''
2. Clady----------9'
3. Williams------8'7''
4.a Long--------8'6''
4.b Cherlius-----8'6''


So each in athletic drill, Kuper puts up together an amazing number. If any of this year's hyped up prospects had pulled this at the combine, his stock would have absolutely skyrocketed to another level. Having said all that, I'm still not sure we shouldn't draft OL anyway. But it's good to know that, if necessary, Kuper is likely to be a very able tackle.



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http://900footballlinks.net/2008draf...ankings.htm#OT
http://www.900footballlinks.net/broncosframe.htm
Great post -- very interesting comparison between Kuper and the 'premium' offensive tackles in the last two drafts.

You've got me sold -- let's try Kuper at left tackle, and steal Cherilus in the 2nd round of this year's draft for our RT....

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Old 04-15-2008, 10:40 AM   #25
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When he played LT in preseason, I didnt think he did that bad. I dont remember if it was against starters though. I definitely know he played a little left tackle against Cleveland in the preseason.
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