Late round O-Line

[elsid13]

I know that most folks think that we need an OT early in this draft, but I have the feeling that Shanahan will look to fill other positions on the first day (i.e. WR,S,LB, DT) vs the offense line. He been to good in his mind of finding guys later in the draft to develop into good offense linemen. So with that in mind, what are the late day offense linemen that would fit into the system?

Has anyone seen Chad Rinehart (LT Northern Iowa) play? Or his teammante Brandon Keith ? Chris Clark (OT Southern Miss)?

Anyone else that might fit the bill of Kuper/Lepsis/Myers

[Scarface]

I think Mike Pollak would be a good fit for our system. He's more of a mid round pick though.

[elsid13]

Sounds like Shanahan guy (plus he from UF)

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...isers.sliders/

Drew Miller, C-G -- Florida
The Gators multi-purpose lineman was one of the most impressive players at Florida's workout on Wednesday. He measured 6-foot-5, 303 pounds and completed 34 reps on the bench and turned in a 30-inch vertical jump. Miller also ran his 40s between 5.02 and 5.15 seconds as well as a short shuttle of 4.4 seconds. His marks were near the top of those turned in by the centers at the combine, which Miller was not invited to attend

[Billy Clyde Puckett]

Athletic Guards that could be taken in the late rounds or possibly be FAs

Shawn Murphy - Utah State
Chester Adams - Georgia
Kerry Brown - App st
Chris McDuffie - Clemson
Andrew Crummy (I hope with a name like that he goes to the squaws) Maryland

Late Round OTs
Tyler Polumbus - CU
Kirk Barton - OSU (Belongs in late rounds based on play but could go higher with OSU publicity machine behind him)
Breno Giacomini - LVL (I want to hear Diaz Infante say his name)
Carnell Stewart - LSU
Will Robinson - San Diego State

[footstepsfrom#27]

Gimme that Thaddeus Coleman kid from Mississippi Valley State; 6'8", and he's probably going to play at about 330 in the NFL. I love this kid in the 4th round if he's there and we let him sit for a year. This guy looks like a raw but very talented natural OT who could play either side of the ball. We're focusing on the left side but Pears on the right is nothing to write home about either.

[That One Guy]

The statement from Klis that someone posted in a thread earlier about how they liked Harris better than Clady really shocked me. I don't know what to think about OL anymore, I had been an OL or DL or die guy before... I don't know what to do now. That was really an eye opening statement.

[Paladin]

It was not the first time I had seen that statement. Even Burger Bill wrote that in one of his bird cage pieces.....

People around here have dissed Harris so much it makes one wonder if the Broncos' Staff know anything compared to the "experts" here. I have argued that the kid needs an opportunity to play and he will get that this year. Perhaps he has some talent and maybe can play a bit......

I remember a couple of years ago, Shanahan commented that the vast majority of people have no idea about how to evaluate talent for the different positions. Then there are those who say that he doesnt either, but he is the man in charge......

I think the Goodman influence will be felt this year....

[thumpc]

We're going to trade down and pick up Albert from UVA to compete with Kuper at RT, playing Harris at LT. Nalen, Holland and Hamilton round out the starters, with Wiegman and Pears in reserve. A center will be drafted late for the red shirt/IR season too.

[elsid13]

Originally Posted by footstepsfrom#27

Gimme that Thaddeus Coleman kid from Mississippi Valley State; 6'8", and he's probably going to play at about 330 in the NFL. I love this kid in the 4th round if he's there and we let him sit for a year. This guy looks like a raw but very talented natural OT who could play either side of the ball. We're focusing on the left side but Pears on the right is nothing to write home about either.

The one ESPN has listed as 287 pounds. With the freaking resource ESPN throws at the draft you think they would get the weight right.

[Ray Finkle]

Originally Posted by thumpc

We're going to trade down and pick up Albert from UVA to compete with Kuper at RT, playing Harris at LT. Nalen, Holland and Hamilton round out the starters, with Wiegman and Pears in reserve. A center will be drafted late for the red shirt/IR season too.

Albert is no Tackle....he is a guard per and simple.

[Scarface]

Originally Posted by Ray Finkle

Albert is no Tackle....he is a guard per and simple.

A lot of scouts are projecting that he can play Tackle in the pros. He played a couple of games at LT and did very well for himself.

[Paladin]

Originally Posted by thumpc

We're going to trade down and pick up Albert from UVA to compete with Kuper at RT, playing Harris at LT. Nalen, Holland and Hamilton round out the starters, with Wiegman and Pears in reserve. A center will be drafted late for the red shirt/IR season too.

Thanks, Now I can skip the draft......

[Drek]

I think this draft will have a pretty damn good mid-round center in it for us, if we chose. Steve Justice could easily slide to one of our 4ths, he'd be a great pickup. Jonathan Sullivan could also be there, another great fit. Its a big part of why I'm fine with letting Myers walk, we could likely use one of our second day picks on a more talented player to groom for '09 or '10 and a 6th rounder will come in handy filling in our needs at K and P.

[elsid13]

another guy that has Denver written all over him
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...ers/index.html

Shawn McMackin, OL, Hofstra
McMackin, one of the biggest sleepers in April's draft, is building buzz in scouting circles. He completed 40 reps on the bench during his first pro-day then ran the 40 in 4.81 seconds and added some very swift shuttle times at a second workout this week. McMackin, who weighs 295 pounds, has played every position on the offensive line in college and is now getting consideration in the late rounds.

[chrisp]

I think Its a given that we're going O-line in the late rounds, but that doesn't necesarily rule out one of the early picks going on the o-line too. We need a Chris Myers replacement long term as Casey Weigemann isn't going to last more than a season or two and Broncos linemen usually sit for a year, especially if taken in the later rounds.

However that is a separate requirement to our need for tackle help, which we surely will try to address on the first day (one hopes!).

I think that whatever happens there will be 2-3 additions to the O-line in the draft....

[Killericon]

Kerry Brown, OG, Appalachian St.

[ohiobronco2]

I know it is my unbiased opinion, but I think Barton would be an excellent late round selection at RT. He runs around a 5 flat forty and is strong as an ox. He started at RT since he was a Freshman and I don't care where you play, that is an accomplishment.

[ohiobronco2]

Originally Posted by chrisp

I think Its a given that we're going O-line in the late rounds, but that doesn't necesarily rule out one of the early picks going on the o-line too. We need a Chris Myers replacement long term as Casey Weigemann isn't going to last more than a season or two and Broncos linemen usually sit for a year, especially if taken in the later rounds.

However that is a separate requirement to our need for tackle help, which we surely will try to address on the first day (one hopes!).

I think that whatever happens there will be 2-3 additions to the O-line in the draft....

Give me Pollack, Williams (Albert/Clady) and Zuttah please.

[SpringStein]

Originally Posted by ohiobronco2

I know it is my unbiased opinion, but I think Barton would be an excellent late round selection at RT. He runs around a 5 flat forty and is strong as an ox. He started at RT since he was a Freshman and I don't care where you play, that is an accomplishment.

If we could get Barton in the 5th, he'd be a steal. Even if we took a LT in the first, I'd still love drafting Barton.

(Coming from the guy who drafted him early in the 4th for the Raiders! )

[chaz]

Originally Posted by cah412

The statement from Klis that someone posted in a thread earlier about how they liked Harris better than Clady really shocked me. I don't know what to think about OL anymore, I had been an OL or DL or die guy before... I don't know what to do now. That was really an eye opening statement.

I missed this...what exactly did he say?

[Broncojef]

Originally Posted by Paladin

It was not the first time I had seen that statement. Even Burger Bill wrote that in one of his bird cage pieces.....

People around here have dissed Harris so much it makes one wonder if the Broncos' Staff know anything compared to the "experts" here. I have argued that the kid needs an opportunity to play and he will get that this year. Perhaps he has some talent and maybe can play a bit......

I remember a couple of years ago, Shanahan commented that the vast majority of people have no idea about how to evaluate talent for the different positions. Then there are those who say that he doesnt either, but he is the man in charge......

I think the Goodman influence will be felt this year....

I think when our O-Line was a turnstile in games against the Lions, Chargers etc it made people wonder why Lepsis wasn't benched and Harris put in if he was so good. His back continues to be an issue as well so I think there are valid reasons people dis Harris and can't understand Shanny's statements concerning him. Our line has been subpar for some time due in large part to Shanny's evaluation for talent. We heard the same evaluation comments from him when people questioned taking Foster so high. We have a unique opportunity this draft to get a franchise left tackle and I say we get him and be done with it.

[Broncojef]

Originally Posted by cah412

The statement from Klis that someone posted in a thread earlier about how they liked Harris better than Clady really shocked me. I don't know what to think about OL anymore, I had been an OL or DL or die guy before... I don't know what to do now. That was really an eye opening statement.

I really really really hope that was a draft day smoke screen.

[no-pseudo-fan]

I change my mind everyday. One day I think O-line is the way to go early, then I think that 4th and 5th rd is really the way to go. Question is, will the OL that we might take in the first start immediately? I can not say that for sure. Who can we draft that will get playing time right away? A MLB would have a chance to play soon, maybe. RB would compete right away. WR ? DT would be great at #12, if Ellis or Dorsey slip, but will that happen? The discussions in the meetings have to be intense. I can not think of a guy in the 1st and the 2nd that would definately make us better right away.

[kmonty]

My opinion: If Clady or Williams are sitting there at 12, and if the Broncos don't trade down, draft one. Then add a few G/C in the later rounds.

[Broncojef]

Originally Posted by no-pseudo-fan

I change my mind everyday. One day I think O-line is the way to go early, then I think that 4th and 5th rd is really the way to go. Question is, will the OL that we might take in the first start immediately? I can not say that for sure. Who can we draft that will get playing time right away? A MLB would have a chance to play soon, maybe. RB would compete right away. WR ? DT would be great at #12, if Ellis or Dorsey slip, but will that happen? The discussions in the meetings have to be intense. I can not think of a guy in the 1st and the 2nd that would definately make us better right away.

The Broncos and we need to stop thinking what will help us this year. I think that philosophy is what kills us long term and why we are where we are. Start building with huge talent in areas of large concern. Our DT, OT and to a lesser degree WR are our biggest need and we need to focus serious attention there and get the best long term solutions we can, whether Shanny starts them this year or not. We aren't a team on the verge of winning it all IMO and should stop acting like it.