Input requested... - The Orange Mane

crosswatt · 03-14-2008, 05:44 PM

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Welcome to SR.com's 2008 7-round "Experts" Mock Draft.*

Let me first off assure you I mean "Experts" in a tongue-in-cheek fashion. We're not "experts", we're just pretending to be for the purpose of this "game"

If you aren't familiar with the 7-round "Experts" Mock Draft let me refer you to the 2007 edition which was a smashing success, so much so that it's back by popular demand.
http://saintsreport.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24320

We had a lot of fun last year, and learned quite a bit about what goes into drafting players for the NFL. This year, I am the "GM" for the Broncos. I would like you, the fans, to help me draft intelligently. Team needs, players you like, or ways you want the team to go. All from the diehard fan perspective.
Any insight and all opinions are appreciated.

Crushaholic · 03-14-2008, 05:46 PM

We need a pass rush, as well as tackles to protect Cutler.

Inkana7 · 03-14-2008, 05:51 PM

1st Day - Tackles on both sides.
2nd Day - Linebacker, Safety, Wide Receiver, Kicker, Punter.

There you go.

Hotrod · 03-14-2008, 06:33 PM

DT's and lot of them

worm · 03-14-2008, 07:11 PM

Kickkkkkkkkkerrrrrrrrrr

Houshyamama · 03-14-2008, 07:14 PM

I personally see us trading down or out of the first round and getting a few more first day picks to use on:
DT
OT
WR
S
LB
RB

theAPAOps5 · 03-14-2008, 07:17 PM

I think we need a top flight QB number one move up for that Colt Brennan.

Its this considered spam?

BroncoMan4ever · 03-14-2008, 07:52 PM

first three rounds if we can trade for a 3rd

round 1 if we trade back Dan Conner if we stand at 12 Clady
round 2 if we got Conner, draft Otah, if Clady in the 1st Manning ham in the second
if we get a 3rd we draft FB Schmitt

crosswatt · 03-14-2008, 10:57 PM

This is good...this is good....
Do ya'll think Shanahan would take an O lineman early?

theAPAOps5 · 03-14-2008, 11:01 PM

No way Shanny doesn't roll that way. Plus there is talk that current lineman will move to left guard. Plus Harris in the 3rd is like a 1st round pick for shanny. That would say Harris is a bust already.

I think its going to be DT, WR, and maybe RB if a certain one falls.

ICON · 03-15-2008, 01:30 AM

Trade back for more pick's.

JCMElway · 03-15-2008, 02:49 AM

Your first goal should be to trade down from the #12 spot. However, if Clady is available at #12 that's hard to pass up.

Need positions are, in order:

OT, DT, OT/G, WR, S, RB, P. If Elam does not sign we may also draft a Kicker, but I hope not. This crop of kickers sucks.

Oh, and if Durant Brooks is available in the 6th, snag him!

Vegas_Bronco · 03-15-2008, 03:48 AM

We will be taking a LB on our first pick...mark my words!

We won't go Oline till later in the draft.

JCMElway · 03-15-2008, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Vegas_Bronco

We will be taking a LB on our first pick...mark my words!

We won't go Oline till later in the draft.

Care to make a sig wager for LB vs. non-LB with the first pick? No way we take a LB first. I'm not saying it will defiently be OT, but it won't be LB.

Bronco Jamus · 03-15-2008, 12:21 PM

We need a true fullback, defensive tackle and at least one offensive tackle. As a secondary concern we need a saftey, every down runningback, and a wide receiver. Offensive tackle and defensive tackle are our biggest need. Fullback is also a great need for about 5 seasons we have used converted runningbacks as fullbacks. They do not have the taste for the job, and you can see it on Sundays.

crosswatt · 03-18-2008, 03:39 PM

*Update*
We are ready to go. LSSpam, the poster heading it up has set the schedule. Feel free to check it out, and give me any input as to needs. I like what I've heard so far from ya'll....

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Alright, here's the schedule

Rounds 1 - 2
Beginning 8 A.M. Monday March 24th
Ending 5 P.M. Friday March 28th

Timer goes off (but picks can continue at whatever pace)
Saturday 29th and Sunday 30th

Rounds 3 - finished
Beginning Monday 8 A.M. March 31st (expecting the compensatory picks to be announced then)
Ending Friday 5 P.M. April 4th

Timer off
Saturday April 5th and Sunday April 6th

Whatever is left Monday 8 A.M. April 7th - until

PLOWHORSE · 03-18-2008, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Bronco Jamus

We need a true fullback, defensive tackle and at least one offensive tackle. As a secondary concern we need a saftey, every down runningback, and a wide receiver. Offensive tackle and defensive tackle are our biggest need. Fullback is also a great need for about 5 seasons we have used converted runningbacks as fullbacks. They do not have the taste for the job, and you can see it on Sundays.

Owen Scmitt numbers....

6'2 250 lbs
4.76 40-Unbeleivable time for a big guy!
4.18 shuttle(faster than some WRs!!!)
6.96 cone drill(faster than some WRs!!)

Beantown Bronco · 03-18-2008, 04:03 PM

Trade down from #12 to #25 if possible (Seattle). An even swap would net us their 2nd rounder (#55) and their 3rd rounder (#86). Obviously, it takes two to tango, but let's assume they go for it....especially considering the trade would work according to the draft value chart...we could throw them the 6th we just got for Myers if Seattle needed a little more coaxing.

With #25, grab Gosder Cherilus to play right tackle for the forseeable future. I've been on record in my support of this guy since January. Love him on the right side. Was instrumental in the success of multiple 1,000 yard rushers at that side. "NFL ready" and comes from an Oline factory.

#42 and #55 in the second round: grab any two of the following DTs:

Pat Sims
Trevor Laws
Dre Moore

#86 in 3rd round: grab Schmitt. Like several here, I've been wanting Howard Griffith 2.0 for a few seasons now and you guys talked me into Schmitt months ago. I've seen nothing to make me sour on him since.

Day 2: spend all 6 or 7 picks (depending on if Seattle wants one to make that deal happen) on special teams stars: preferably one safety early on, 2 WRs, a RB, kicker and punter.

BroncoBuff · 03-18-2008, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Inkana7

1st Day - Tackles on both sides.
2nd Day - Linebacker, Safety, Wide Receiver, Kicker, Punter.

There you go.

DTs .... yes. DTs DTs DTs. If yuo can trade down, crosswatt, you should, because #12 is too low for Clady/Ellis/Dorsey, and to high fr ositins we need.

OT - depends on whether Kuper's moving to tackle. If he does move, then we need a G/C without Myers. WR yes, but preferably a speedster that returns kicks too, like Dexter Jackson or Andre Caldwell.

Josh Barrett is the safety we want imo, definitely.

No kickers in this draft really worth drafting imo, but punter Durant Brooks from Georgia Tech is worth a pick. Almost half his 144 punts went out inside the 20, but despite that, he averaged 45+ yards both seasons. And he's never had a punt locked. And Ray Guy is his tutor. And John Elway was his favorite player growing up.

Linebacker? I'm thinking no. We're kinda loaded there since free agency - and young. Boss, Niko and DJ are a pretty young starting trio, and Webster, Green and Winborn are young backups on the whole.

BroncoBuff · 03-18-2008, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Beantown Bronco

Trade down from #12 to #25 if possible (Seattle). An even swap would net us their 2nd rounder (#55) and their 3rd rounder (#86). Obviously, it takes two to tango, but let's assume they go for it....especially considering the trade would work according to the draft value chart...we could throw them the 6th we just got for Myers if Seattle needed a little more coaxing.

With #25, grab Gosder Cherilus to play right tackle for the forseeable future. I've been on record in my support of this guy since January. Love him on the right side. Was instrumental in the success of multiple 1,000 yard rushers at that side. "NFL ready" and comes from an Oline factory.

#42 and #55 in the second round: grab any two of the following DTs:

Pat Sims
Trevor Laws
Dre Moore

#86 in 3rd round: grab Schmitt. Like several here, I've been wanting Howard Griffith 2.0 for a few seasons now and you guys talked me into Schmitt months ago. I've seen nothing to make me sour on him since.

Day 2: spend all 6 or 7 picks (depending on if Seattle wants one to make that deal happen) on special teams stars: preferably one safety early on, 2 WRs, a RB, kicker and punter.

Wow, I just read this BTB, BEAUTIFUL!

I agree with every word. Except that if Kuper is slated to move to RT, we should select Branden Albert with the Seahawks #25 instead of Cherilus.

Jeepers - imagine an O-Line with Nalen, Kuper, Albert/Cherilus and Holland. Even with smaler Harris or Pears at LT, that would be our biggest O-Line ever.

Needa Pass Rush · 03-18-2008, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Crushaholic

We need a pass rush, as well as tackles to protect Cutler.

Still?

That's needa, baby!

crosswatt · 03-24-2008, 07:01 PM

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Round 1 (NOW DRAFTING)
(001) 1 Miami - LT Jake Long
(002) 2 St. Louis - DE Vernon Gholston
(003) 3 Atlanta - DT Glenn Dorsey
(004) 4 Cincinnati (1from Oakland) - DE/OLB Chris Long
(005) 5 New York Jets (2from Kansas City) - RB Darren McFadden, Arkansas
(006) 6 Kansas City (2from New York Jets) - DT Sedrick Ellis
(007) 7 New England (from sf) - CB Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie
(008) 8 Baltimore - QB Matt Ryan
(009) 9 Oakland (1from cin) - LT Ryan Clady
(010) 10 New Orleans
(011) 11 Buffalo
(012) 12 Denver

Ok, we are up tomorrow morning. Clady just went off the board at 9. I can't find a trade partner to let me move back. Sooo... I have a few players to pick from now. The Saints (by vote of the board) are looking strong at McElvin.

Rashard Mendenhall - Illinois
Chris Williams - Vanderbilt
Jeff Otah - Pittsburgh
Kentwan Balmer - North Carolina
Mike Jenkins - USF
Aqib Talib - Kansas
DeSean Jackson - California
Any preferences? Other player suggestions?

http://www.saintsreport.com/forums/s...ad.php?t=62640

elsid13 · 03-24-2008, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by crosswatt

Ok, we are up tomorrow morning. Clady just went off the board at 9. I can't find a trade partner to let me move back. Sooo... I have a few players to pick from now. The Saints (by vote of the board) are looking strong at McElvin.

Rashard Mendenhall - Illinois
Chris Williams - Vanderbilt
Jeff Otah - Pittsburgh
Kentwan Balmer - North Carolina
Mike Jenkins - USF
Aqib Talib - Kansas
DeSean Jackson - California
Any preferences? Other player suggestions?

http://www.saintsreport.com/forums/s...ad.php?t=62640

No RB - Shanahan use and abuse them, and Turner (RB Coach) likes to find guys that fit the system late.
Williams - a strong possibility
Otah - to high for him at 12
Balmer - to high for him at 12
Jekins/Talib - Don't play 1st round money to your nickle/dime
DeSean Jackson - This would be the Mike Shanahan WTF pick that we come to hate, Also someone like Sweed or Kelly wouldn't surprise me either.

chaz · 03-24-2008, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by crosswatt

Ok, we are up tomorrow morning. Clady just went off the board at 9. I can't find a trade partner to let me move back. Sooo... I have a few players to pick from now. The Saints (by vote of the board) are looking strong at McElvin.

Rashard Mendenhall - Illinois
Chris Williams - Vanderbilt
Jeff Otah - Pittsburgh
Kentwan Balmer - North Carolina
Mike Jenkins - USF
Aqib Talib - Kansas
DeSean Jackson - California
Any preferences? Other player suggestions?

http://www.saintsreport.com/forums/s...ad.php?t=62640

I'd look at Chris Williams, Desean Jackson, and Limas Sweed.

crosswatt · 03-25-2008, 07:40 AM

Quick last second "boy this looks like something Shanny would do" option-Phillip Merling. Shannahan values some positions high enough for an early 1st, and defensive end seems to be one of them. Yea? Nea? Stick to the original list?

03-15-2008, 12:21 PM	#15
Bronco Jamus Ring of Famer Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Denver Posts: 1,636	We need a true fullback, defensive tackle and at least one offensive tackle. As a secondary concern we need a saftey, every down runningback, and a wide receiver. Offensive tackle and defensive tackle are our biggest need. Fullback is also a great need for about 5 seasons we have used converted runningbacks as fullbacks. They do not have the taste for the job, and you can see it on Sundays. Last edited by Bronco Jamus; 03-15-2008 at 12:24 PM..

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03-14-2008, 05:46 PM	#2
Crushaholic Armchair Poster Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Topeka, KS Posts: 22,043	We need a pass rush, as well as tackles to protect Cutler.

03-14-2008, 05:51 PM	#3
Inkana7 Ring of Famer Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 8,231 Adopt-a-Bronco: Derek Wolfe	1st Day - Tackles on both sides. 2nd Day - Linebacker, Safety, Wide Receiver, Kicker, Punter. There you go.

03-14-2008, 06:33 PM	#4
Hotrod Self Appointed Expert aka Dortoh Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 25,136 Adopt-a-Bronco: Miss I	DT's and lot of them

03-14-2008, 07:11 PM	#5
worm Great moments are born... ...from great opportunity Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 3,947 Adopt-a-Bronco: #20	Kickkkkkkkkkerrrrrrrrrr

03-14-2008, 07:14 PM	#6
Houshyamama I Make The Weather Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: San Diego Posts: 3,855 Adopt-a-Bronco: Brock Osweiler	I personally see us trading down or out of the first round and getting a few more first day picks to use on: DT OT WR S LB RB

03-14-2008, 07:17 PM	#7
theAPAOps5 A new beginning! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Denver Posts: 26,058 Adopt-a-Bronco: Watermock - RIP	I think we need a top flight QB number one move up for that Colt Brennan. Its this considered spam?

03-14-2008, 07:52 PM	#8
BroncoMan4ever Ring of Famer Here to chew bubblegum and kick ass Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Denver Posts: 11,565 Adopt-a-Bronco: VIRGIL GREEN!!!	first three rounds if we can trade for a 3rd round 1 if we trade back Dan Conner if we stand at 12 Clady round 2 if we got Conner, draft Otah, if Clady in the 1st Manning ham in the second if we get a 3rd we draft FB Schmitt

03-14-2008, 10:57 PM	#9
crosswatt Just Drafted Visiting Saints fan... Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 46 Adopt-a-Bronco: Boss and Champ	This is good...this is good.... Do ya'll think Shanahan would take an O lineman early?

03-14-2008, 11:01 PM	#10
theAPAOps5 A new beginning! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Denver Posts: 26,058 Adopt-a-Bronco: Watermock - RIP	No way Shanny doesn't roll that way. Plus there is talk that current lineman will move to left guard. Plus Harris in the 3rd is like a 1st round pick for shanny. That would say Harris is a bust already. I think its going to be DT, WR, and maybe RB if a certain one falls.

03-15-2008, 01:30 AM	#11
ICON \|^\|Punter of Gnomes\|^\| Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh..Snap! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Long Beach Posts: 2,607 Adopt-a-Bronco: Nate Irving	Trade back for more pick's.

03-15-2008, 02:49 AM	#12
JCMElway Moderate-erator Dominate! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 6,867 Adopt-a-Bronco: Oleg	Your first goal should be to trade down from the #12 spot. However, if Clady is available at #12 that's hard to pass up. Need positions are, in order: OT, DT, OT/G, WR, S, RB, P. If Elam does not sign we may also draft a Kicker, but I hope not. This crop of kickers sucks. Oh, and if Durant Brooks is available in the 6th, snag him!

03-15-2008, 03:48 AM	#13
Vegas_Bronco Ring of Famer Fear is a lack of preparation. Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: 63 Yards Out Posts: 4,028 Adopt-a-Bronco: 1 Elam 1	We will be taking a LB on our first pick...mark my words! We won't go Oline till later in the draft.

03-18-2008, 04:03 PM	#18
Beantown Bronco Athletic Supporter Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mass Posts: 19,040 Adopt-a-Bronco: Matt Prater	Trade down from #12 to #25 if possible (Seattle). An even swap would net us their 2nd rounder (#55) and their 3rd rounder (#86). Obviously, it takes two to tango, but let's assume they go for it....especially considering the trade would work according to the draft value chart...we could throw them the 6th we just got for Myers if Seattle needed a little more coaxing. With #25, grab Gosder Cherilus to play right tackle for the forseeable future. I've been on record in my support of this guy since January. Love him on the right side. Was instrumental in the success of multiple 1,000 yard rushers at that side. "NFL ready" and comes from an Oline factory. #42 and #55 in the second round: grab any two of the following DTs: Pat Sims Trevor Laws Dre Moore #86 in 3rd round: grab Schmitt. Like several here, I've been wanting Howard Griffith 2.0 for a few seasons now and you guys talked me into Schmitt months ago. I've seen nothing to make me sour on him since. Day 2: spend all 6 or 7 picks (depending on if Seattle wants one to make that deal happen) on special teams stars: preferably one safety early on, 2 WRs, a RB, kicker and punter.

03-25-2008, 07:40 AM	#25
crosswatt Just Drafted Visiting Saints fan... Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 46 Adopt-a-Bronco: Boss and Champ	Quick last second "boy this looks like something Shanny would do" option-Phillip Merling. Shannahan values some positions high enough for an early 1st, and defensive end seems to be one of them. Yea? Nea? Stick to the original list?