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Old 03-14-2008, 04:27 AM   #1
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Having a lazy Friday morning (it’s the first day of the weekend in the UAE), and catching up on my draft reading while the wife and kid sleep in late.

Anyway, I had a thought – what if Mike Shanahan had a horseshoe up his ass during draft day, and everything went the Broncos way as far as picks are concerned? What would be the best possible scenario that’s somewhat plausible? Here’s my dream scenario (let me know if I've got the picks wrong here, it's a little confusing with all the conditional trades):

Round 1 (12), Glenn Dorsey, DT
Dorsey’s injury history might push him below Sedrick Ellis and Chris Long on draft boards. If the Falcons and Ravens both take quarterbacks (Ryan and Brohm), the Chiefs take Clady at 5, and the Patriots and Saints both go for cornerback help (which is very possible), Dorsey could (it’s a big if, I know) fall to the 12 spot. How huge would that be for us? Sedrick Ellis and Jake Long are the other potential big-name sliders I’ve seen in a few mocks.

Round 2 (42), Kenny Phillips, FS
I know, I know, he’s projected as a first rounder – but every year, there are a few great players who slip into the second round for whatever reason. Without question, there’s going to be somebody surprising at this position (that’s the beauty of high 2nd round picks). Kenny Phillips just may be the guy. DeSean Jackson would be the other guy who could potentially be here, but I’ve got a different receiver falling to us with a later pick:

Round 4 (104), Beau Bell, ILB
Bell has a couple of strikes against him which could drop him a round or two: recent injuries which have contributed to poor workouts, a smaller-school background, and some scouts have nailed him with the “tight hips” tag. However, he’s been amazingly productive, is a high-effort and high character players, and nobody questions his instincts. I see a bargain-basement Al Wilson here.

Round 4 (115), Jordy Nelson, WR
The wide receiver class is strange this year – there’s about 4 players who could make it into the 1st round, then about 10 players just a cut below them. Jordy Nelson is huge, athletic, and had a crazy productive senior year for a major college. To me, he looks like a white Brandon Marshall. If you’re not a Nelson fan, than the other intriguing pick at this position would be FB Owen Schmitt – a stud-daddy slobber-knocker who could transform our goal-line offense.

Round 5 (130), Frank Okam, DT
Nobody knows what the hell is going on with Okam – my copy of the Sporting News draft guide from 2007 has him listed as the #2 player in the 2008 draft. And you certainly can’t deny that he’s got a pro body – 6’5”, 340 pounds on an enormous frame. While it’s likely that someone’s going to pull the trigger on him in the 2nd or 3rd round, based on Bill Parcell’s planet theory, he just might fall this far due to poor effort in his senior year. Since it’s an area of extreme need for us, I’d love to pull the trigger on him here, team him with Dorsey, and have a wall in the middle of the defense.

Round 5 (140), Tony Hills, OT
Like the receiver and running back positions, the line depth is deep in the second tier this year. Hills has huge talent, but is no better than 5th or 6th at his position this year, and a drop-foot condition has teams concerned. Pick him up here, put him at right tackle, and laugh all the way to the super bowl.

Round 7 (202), Mike Hart, RB
A deep running back class is going to push somebody down to this level, and I think it’ll be Mike Hart from Michigan, based on his poor 40 times at the combine. However, take a look at his high school and college production, and his highlight reels on YouTube – the kid can play, even if he doesn’t have breakaway speed. If you prefer, substitute another good back for Hart, such as Xavier Oman or even Steve Slaton, who’s a forgotten man in this year’s draft. Keep an eye on the NCAA all-time leading rusher, Danny Woodhead from Chadron State, who just ran a 4.3 40 at his pro day in Nebraska.

Round 7 (209), Corey Lynch, FS/Special teams
My deep sleeper for the 2008 draft – should be a difference maker on special teams coverage, and has chance to be a quality back-up safety as well. Substitute whoever you like here, but this is my guy.

I realize that a few of these are unlikely, but strange things do happen on draft day. And if you look at our 2006 draft, I’d say we came pretty close to having a dream draft on that day as well – if Shanny hadn’t traded for Javon Walker, it’s rumored that we would have taken Devin Hester….
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Nice draft but a wet dream IMHO. Everyone of those players bar Dorsey will go at least 1 round earlier.
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Nice one, Expat. I love these wet dream threads. Here's mine:

12. Sedrick Ellis, DT
42. Gosder Cherilus, OT
104. Beau Bell, LB
115. Ray Rice, RB
130. Owen Schmitt, FB
140. Wesley Woodyard, S
202. Ben Moffitt, LB
209. Marcus Monk, WR
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How's this for a wet dream draft?

* Denver sends the #12 pick (1st rd) to Dallas for the #28 pick (1st rd), the #61 pick (2nd rd), the #92 pick (3rd rd) and the #187 (6th rd).
* The Broncos decline to match an offer sheet from Houston for C/G Chris Myers and receive the #177 (6th round)

Round 1 (#28) Gosder Cherilus, OT, Boston College - A bit of a reach but no other worthwhile OT's will be around come #42. Can compete with Pears to start at RT immediately.
Round 2 (#42) Pat Sims, DT, Auburn - Would be the likely candidate to join Marcus Thomas as the starters inside.
Round 2 (#61) Red Bryant, DT, Texas A&M - Tons of potential, he would would be a good backup/rotation guy to improve the middle.
Round 3 (#92) Dre Moore, DT, Maryland - With Bryant and Sims, Moore would add three young and talented DT's to pair with Thomas immediately.
Round 4 (#104) Eddie Royal, WR/KR, Virginia Tech - We start over with a new and improved Domenik Hixon.
Round 4 (#115) Owen Schmitt, FB, West Virginia - A true blocking FB for the first time since Howard Griffith.
Round 5 (#130) DeMario Pressley, DT, North Carolina State - More of a project than Bryant, Sims and Moore; but possibly more upside than all three.
Round 5 (#140) Barry Richardson, OT, Clemson - A big OT with good athleticism would add great depth and could compete for a starting job come 2010.
Round 6 (#177) Taylor Mehlhaff, K, Wisconsin - It appears a new era of field goal kicking in Denver is coming.
Round 6 (#187) Kalani Heppe, G, North Carolina State - Very athletic but raw, a great #4 guard behind Ben Hamilton, Montrae Holland and Chris Kuper.
Round 7 (#202) Mike Dragosavich, P, North Dakota State - Had a great college career and should beat out Sam Paulescu.
Round 7 (#209) Quintin Demps, FS, UTEP - Limited potential as a safety but has the makings of a special teams demon.

QB: Cutler, Ramsey
RB: Henry, Young, Hall
FB: Schmitt, Smith
WR: Marshall, Martinez
WR: Colbert, Stokley, Royal
TE: Graham, Scheffler, Jackson, Leach
LT: Harris, Richardson
LG: Hamilton, Kuper
C: Nalen
RG: Holland, Heppe
RT: Cherilus, Pears

DE: Ekuban, Dumervil, Moss
DT: Thomas, Moore, Pressley
DT: Sims, Bryant
DE: Engelberger, Crowder
WLB: Williams, Green
MLB: Koutouvides, Webster, Beck
SLB: Bailey, Winborn
CB: Bailey, Paymah
FS: Lynch, Manual, Demps
SS: Abdullah, McCree
CB: Bly, Foxworth

K: Mehlhaff
P: Dragoslavich
KR: Royal, Hall
PR: Royal, Martinez

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Old 03-14-2008, 12:02 PM   #6
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How's this for a wet dream draft?

* Denver sends the #12 pick (1st rd) to Dallas for the #28 pick (1st rd), the #61 pick (2nd rd), the #92 pick (3rd rd) and the #187 (6th rd).
* The Broncos decline to match an offer sheet from Houston for C/G Chris Myers and receive the #177 (6th round)

Round 1 (#28) Gosder Cherilus, OT, Boston College - A bit of a reach but no other worthwhile OT's will be around come #42. Can compete with Pears to start at RT immediately.
Round 2 (#42) Pat Sims, DT, Auburn - Would be the likely candidate to join Marcus Thomas as the starters inside.
Round 2 (#61) Red Bryant, DT, Texas A&M - Tons of potential, he would would be a good backup/rotation guy to improve the middle.
Round 3 (#92) Dre Moore, DT, Maryland - With Bryant and Sims, Moore would add three young and talented DT's to pair with Thomas immediately.
Round 4 (#104) Eddie Royal, WR/KR, Virginia Tech - We start over with a new and improved Domenik Hixon.
Round 4 (#115) Owen Schmitt, FB, West Virginia - A true blocking FB for the first time since Howard Griffith.
Round 5 (#130) DeMario Pressley, DT, North Carolina State - More of a project than Bryant, Sims and Moore; but possibly more upside than all three.
Round 5 (#140) Barry Richardson, OT, Clemson - A big OT with good athleticism would add great depth and could compete for a starting job come 2010.
Round 6 (#177) Taylor Mehlhaff, K, Wisconsin - It appears a new era of field goal kicking in Denver is coming.
Round 6 (#187) Kalani Heppe, G, North Carolina State - Very athletic but raw, a great #4 guard behind Ben Hamilton, Montrae Holland and Chris Kuper.
Round 7 (#202) Mike Dragosavich, P, North Dakota State - Had a great college career and should beat out Sam Paulescu.
Round 7 (#209) Quintin Demps, FS, UTEP - Limited potential as a safety but has the makings of a special teams demon.

I actually like yours a lot better plus its a little more plausible. As for the thread creators mock its nice but i would never pass on Chris long to take Dorsey no matter if we dont need DE or not. Long is a game changer.
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Nice one, Expat. I love these wet dream threads. Here's mine:

12. Sedrick Ellis, DT
42. Gosder Cherilus, OT
104. Beau Bell, LB
115. Ray Rice, RB
130. Owen Schmitt, FB
140. Wesley Woodyard, S
202. Ben Moffitt, LB
209. Marcus Monk, WR
Ro, I am going to make a copy of this and sleep with it tonight
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I actually like yours a lot better plus its a little more plausible. As for the thread creators mock its nice but i would never pass on Chris long to take Dorsey no matter if we dont need DE or not. Long is a game changer.
Under no situation will Chris Long fall to the #12 slot -- the kids got no weaknesses, and it's pretty inconceivable that he could even fall to #5. It's Jake Long who might take a tumble, depending on whether teams have Clady rated higher than him or not.

I agree with you, though -- Chris Long over Dorsey, even if it's not a need.
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How's this for a wet dream draft?

* Denver sends the #12 pick (1st rd) to Dallas for the #28 pick (1st rd), the #61 pick (2nd rd), the #92 pick (3rd rd) and the #187 (6th rd).
* The Broncos decline to match an offer sheet from Houston for C/G Chris Myers and receive the #177 (6th round)

Round 1 (#28) Gosder Cherilus, OT, Boston College - A bit of a reach but no other worthwhile OT's will be around come #42. Can compete with Pears to start at RT immediately.
Round 2 (#42) Pat Sims, DT, Auburn - Would be the likely candidate to join Marcus Thomas as the starters inside.
Round 2 (#61) Red Bryant, DT, Texas A&M - Tons of potential, he would would be a good backup/rotation guy to improve the middle.
Round 3 (#92) Dre Moore, DT, Maryland - With Bryant and Sims, Moore would add three young and talented DT's to pair with Thomas immediately.
Round 4 (#104) Eddie Royal, WR/KR, Virginia Tech - We start over with a new and improved Domenik Hixon.
Round 4 (#115) Owen Schmitt, FB, West Virginia - A true blocking FB for the first time since Howard Griffith.
Round 5 (#130) DeMario Pressley, DT, North Carolina State - More of a project than Bryant, Sims and Moore; but possibly more upside than all three.
Round 5 (#140) Barry Richardson, OT, Clemson - A big OT with good athleticism would add great depth and could compete for a starting job come 2010.
Round 6 (#177) Taylor Mehlhaff, K, Wisconsin - It appears a new era of field goal kicking in Denver is coming.
Round 6 (#187) Kalani Heppe, G, North Carolina State - Very athletic but raw, a great #4 guard behind Ben Hamilton, Montrae Holland and Chris Kuper.
Round 7 (#202) Mike Dragosavich, P, North Dakota State - Had a great college career and should beat out Sam Paulescu.
Round 7 (#209) Quintin Demps, FS, UTEP - Limited potential as a safety but has the makings of a special teams demon.

QB: Cutler, Ramsey
RB: Henry, Young, Hall
FB: Schmitt, Smith
WR: Marshall, Martinez
WR: Colbert, Stokley, Royal
TE: Graham, Scheffler, Jackson, Leach
LT: Harris, Richardson
LG: Hamilton, Kuper
C: Nalen
RG: Holland, Heppe
RT: Cherilus, Pears

DE: Ekuban, Dumervil, Moss
DT: Thomas, Moore, Pressley
DT: Sims, Bryant
DE: Engelberger, Crowder
WLB: Williams, Green
MLB: Koutouvides, Webster, Beck
SLB: Bailey, Winborn
CB: Bailey, Paymah
FS: Lynch, Manual, Demps
SS: Abdullah, McCree
CB: Bly, Foxworth

K: Mehlhaff
P: Dragoslavich
KR: Royal, Hall
PR: Royal, Martinez
Four defensive tackles is overkill and a waste of the trade you did.

Demps is way too low.

Royal is too low.

I'd take this draft, but why would we draft four defensive tackles? It's one of the hardest positions to translate your college game to the NFL. Drafting four helps, but it's not going to give us the screaming results everyone desires.

Two defensive tackles would have been enough, four is way overkill.
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Under no situation will Chris Long fall to the #12 slot -- the kids got no weaknesses, and it's pretty inconceivable that he could even fall to #5. It's Jake Long who might take a tumble, depending on whether teams have Clady rated higher than him or not.

I agree with you, though -- Chris Long over Dorsey, even if it's not a need.
Ooooh, i apologize to you than. I was figuring that you were saying that we were to move up and get Dorsey. My mistake. Dumbass me.
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How's this for a wet dream draft?

* Denver sends the #12 pick (1st rd) to Dallas for the #28 pick (1st rd), the #61 pick (2nd rd), the #92 pick (3rd rd) and the #187 (6th rd).
* The Broncos decline to match an offer sheet from Houston for C/G Chris Myers and receive the #177 (6th round)

Round 1 (#28) Gosder Cherilus, OT, Boston College - A bit of a reach but no other worthwhile OT's will be around come #42. Can compete with Pears to start at RT immediately.
Round 2 (#42) Pat Sims, DT, Auburn - Would be the likely candidate to join Marcus Thomas as the starters inside.
Round 2 (#61) Red Bryant, DT, Texas A&M - Tons of potential, he would would be a good backup/rotation guy to improve the middle.
Round 3 (#92) Dre Moore, DT, Maryland - With Bryant and Sims, Moore would add three young and talented DT's to pair with Thomas immediately.
Round 4 (#104) Eddie Royal, WR/KR, Virginia Tech - We start over with a new and improved Domenik Hixon.
Round 4 (#115) Owen Schmitt, FB, West Virginia - A true blocking FB for the first time since Howard Griffith.
Round 5 (#130) DeMario Pressley, DT, North Carolina State - More of a project than Bryant, Sims and Moore; but possibly more upside than all three.
Round 5 (#140) Barry Richardson, OT, Clemson - A big OT with good athleticism would add great depth and could compete for a starting job come 2010.
Round 6 (#177) Taylor Mehlhaff, K, Wisconsin - It appears a new era of field goal kicking in Denver is coming.
Round 6 (#187) Kalani Heppe, G, North Carolina State - Very athletic but raw, a great #4 guard behind Ben Hamilton, Montrae Holland and Chris Kuper.
Round 7 (#202) Mike Dragosavich, P, North Dakota State - Had a great college career and should beat out Sam Paulescu.
Round 7 (#209) Quintin Demps, FS, UTEP - Limited potential as a safety but has the makings of a special teams demon.

QB: Cutler, Ramsey
RB: Henry, Young, Hall
FB: Schmitt, Smith
WR: Marshall, Martinez
WR: Colbert, Stokley, Royal
TE: Graham, Scheffler, Jackson, Leach
LT: Harris, Richardson
LG: Hamilton, Kuper
C: Nalen
RG: Holland, Heppe
RT: Cherilus, Pears

DE: Ekuban, Dumervil, Moss
DT: Thomas, Moore, Pressley
DT: Sims, Bryant
DE: Engelberger, Crowder
WLB: Williams, Green
MLB: Koutouvides, Webster, Beck
SLB: Bailey, Winborn
CB: Bailey, Paymah
FS: Lynch, Manual, Demps
SS: Abdullah, McCree
CB: Bly, Foxworth

K: Mehlhaff
P: Dragoslavich
KR: Royal, Hall
PR: Royal, Martinez
Some great picks in that one, but Gosder Cherilus is your top pick in your Wet Dream draft? C'mon man, you gotta dream bigger than that!

Also, it would seem that the Broncos' inability to stop the run in 2007 has traumatized you. 4 defensive tackles? But on second thought, I like it -- and a couple of those guys will certainly be there at those spots.

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It would seem that the Broncos' inability to stop the run in 2007 has traumatized you. 4 defensive tackles?
I think he was just trying to cover his basis.
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Trade with Dallas #12 for #28 and their 1st next year.

1. Branden Albert OG
2. Gosder Cherilus OT
4a. Marcus Harrison DT
4b. Demario Pressley DT
5a. Tom Zibibowski S
5b. Jonathan Goff ILB
7a. Marcus Smith WR
7b. Jerome Felton FB

Albert would be an immediate starter at OG for the next 15 years with several Pro-Bowls

Cherilus would be an immediate starter at RT for the next 15 years, and would allow Pears and Harris to compete at LT.

Harrison and Pressley are the best thats left, and an improvement over what we have. If we trade one of those 4ths and Foxworth for Robertson, then we don't draft Pressley.

Zibikowski is a player I have really enjoyed watching at Notre Dame, plus he returns punts.

Goff is underrated. He could be Niko's backup.

Marcus Smith has good size, speed, and hands, but won't make an impact this year.

Felton fills a need.
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How's this for a wet dream draft?

* Denver sends the #12 pick (1st rd) to Dallas for the #28 pick (1st rd), the #61 pick (2nd rd), the #92 pick (3rd rd) and the #187 (6th rd).
* The Broncos decline to match an offer sheet from Houston for C/G Chris Myers and receive the #177 (6th round)

Round 1 (#28) Gosder Cherilus, OT, Boston College - A bit of a reach but no other worthwhile OT's will be around come #42. Can compete with Pears to start at RT immediately.
Round 2 (#42) Pat Sims, DT, Auburn - Would be the likely candidate to join Marcus Thomas as the starters inside.
Round 2 (#61) Red Bryant, DT, Texas A&M - Tons of potential, he would would be a good backup/rotation guy to improve the middle.
Round 3 (#92) Dre Moore, DT, Maryland - With Bryant and Sims, Moore would add three young and talented DT's to pair with Thomas immediately.
Round 4 (#104) Eddie Royal, WR/KR, Virginia Tech - We start over with a new and improved Domenik Hixon.
Round 4 (#115) Owen Schmitt, FB, West Virginia - A true blocking FB for the first time since Howard Griffith.
Round 5 (#130) DeMario Pressley, DT, North Carolina State - More of a project than Bryant, Sims and Moore; but possibly more upside than all three.
Round 5 (#140) Barry Richardson, OT, Clemson - A big OT with good athleticism would add great depth and could compete for a starting job come 2010.
Round 6 (#177) Taylor Mehlhaff, K, Wisconsin - It appears a new era of field goal kicking in Denver is coming.
Round 6 (#187) Kalani Heppe, G, North Carolina State - Very athletic but raw, a great #4 guard behind Ben Hamilton, Montrae Holland and Chris Kuper.
Round 7 (#202) Mike Dragosavich, P, North Dakota State - Had a great college career and should beat out Sam Paulescu.
Round 7 (#209) Quintin Demps, FS, UTEP - Limited potential as a safety but has the makings of a special teams demon.
If we can do this.. it will be close to a dream draft for broncos
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Trade with Dallas #12 for #28 and their 1st next year.

1. Branden Albert OG
2. Gosder Cherilus OT
4a. Marcus Harrison DT
4b. Demario Pressley DT
5a. Tom Zibibowski S
5b. Jonathan Goff ILB
7a. Marcus Smith WR
7b. Jerome Felton FB

Albert would be an immediate starter at OG for the next 15 years with several Pro-Bowls

Cherilus would be an immediate starter at RT for the next 15 years, and would allow Pears and Harris to compete at LT.

Harrison and Pressley are the best thats left, and an improvement over what we have. If we trade one of those 4ths and Foxworth for Robertson, then we don't draft Pressley.

Zibikowski is a player I have really enjoyed watching at Notre Dame, plus he returns punts.

Goff is underrated. He could be Niko's backup.

Marcus Smith has good size, speed, and hands, but won't make an impact this year.

Felton fills a need.

Not really flashy but i can see the potential there. And Goff's stock is rising so good call there but he may go sooner.
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I'd take this draft, but why would we draft four defensive tackles? It's one of the hardest positions to translate your college game to the NFL. Drafting four helps, but it's not going to give us the screaming results everyone desires.

Two defensive tackles would have been enough, four is way overkill.
For my personal wet dream draft, obviously not one Denver's likely to do, I thought back to the '05 draft when corner was probably our greatest weakness. Some thought 3 CB's were overkill but all three made great contributions and were part of the reason CB is now a strength.

Looking at the law of averages, all of the picks are not going to work out. It's just a fact of life. In addition, 4 DT's aren't likely to work out. But if you can get just two of them to work out, you've gone a long way to improving the position. If 3 work out, you're in great shape and if all 4 work out the position is now a great strength. If I had to overload talent at a position on an NFL squad, I'd overload on the OL and DL prior to anywhere else. Say you were to only draft 2 DT's and take 2 position's elsewhere. I suppose you could go RB or S or LB or even bring in another OL. But the way the Broncos are currently constituted, DT and OT are far and away such greater weaknesses than the other positions - I'd rather pass on those other positions to ensure I can improve that weakness with this draft. Looking back at the Broncos draft history, in the slot's I pegged for DT's, there haven't been too many players selected at other positions who've contributed immediately. There have been a few, Scheffler and Portis come to mind, but in reality I can't see the Broncos taking any RB, WR, LB, G/C or S in the 2nd, 3rd or 5th round who could help this team out as soon as much as a DT could. I most certainly could be wrong, but that's the way I feel.

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Four defensive tackles is overkill and a waste of the trade you did.
For me the trade is more about moving down to save money than even about the return value. I don't want to be on the hook for the money the #12 is going to be require. The more I think about, I'd take being out of the 1st round altogether if it was possible.

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Demps is way too low.

Royal is too low.
I'm no draft expert - that's for sure. I merely looked up a few draft sights to see where guys were projected to go. Hey, it's a wet dream draft!

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Some great picks in that one, but Gosder Cherilus is your top pick in your Wet Dream draft? C'mon man, you gotta dream bigger than that!
There isn't a 1st round talent I really see as THAT great for us at this time. If Clady fell to #12 I'd think about it, but I just don't want the Broncos investing big money in any rookie considering the guys we have coming up for new deals. Cherilus fits a need, could play right away and would be considerably cheaper than Clady at #28. The only other 1st round guy I'd have some interest in, only if we were at the bottom of the round, is Mario Manningham. Don't ask me why, I just think he'd be a good fit.

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Also, it would seem that the Broncos' inability to stop the run in 2007 has traumatized you. 4 defensive tackles? But on second thought, I like it -- and a couple of those guys will certainly be there at those spots.
As I said above, it's like shooting for the jackpot and hoping to just win something on the way. The position is too weak and important for the Broncos to bank on one or even two guys working out, IMO. I'd rather increase my odds by taking four at the expense of another LB or S or WR. Our UDFA focus can be on those guys - although I don't see many making a charge for a roster spot, another reason I'd rather overload at DT.

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Old 03-14-2008, 01:47 PM   #17
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I mentioned this in another thread, but in a perfect world I'd like to see #12 moved to Dallas for #22, #61, and #92.

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Rd 1- Chris Williams, OT, Vandy
Rd 2a- Pat Sims, DT, Auburn
Rd 2b- Earl Bennett, WR, Vandy
Rd 3- Jonathan Goff, LB, Vandy
Rd 4a- Owen Scmitt, FB, W Va
Rd 4b- Dexter Jackson, WR, App St
Rd 5a- Jeremy Zuttah, OL, Rutgers
Rd 5b- Eric Foster, DL, Rutgers (Draftguys sold me. He could be a nice pass-rusher)
Rd 7a- Mike Dragosavich, P, N Dakota St
Rd 7b- Lamar Myles, OLB, Louisville
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Why no stress on the WR guys? OT and DT are huge holes on our team... But so is WR, I see a lot of early round linebackers... But we are much more set at the linebacker position then the WR position. Imagine this, and I say imagine because it's not possible but what if Brandon Marshall goes down with an injury.

We have Keary Colbert (whom the panthers laugh at) and Glenn Martinez giving us the worst receiving core in the league. If we don't take a WR before at least round 4 with loads of talent I am going to be sorely disappointed. With Jay, Brandon and Scheff this team should be a very pass efficient team. We need to put a threat opposite Marshall to relieve his pressure, and who can make some plays of his own. Otherwise our line won't account for anything. If you can't score points, you can't win ball games.
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I mentioned this in another thread, but in a perfect world I'd like to see #12 moved to Dallas for #22, #61, and #92.

Draft:
Rd 1- Chris Williams, OT, Vandy
Rd 2a- Pat Sims, DT, Auburn
Rd 2b- Earl Bennett, WR, Vandy
Rd 3- Jonathan Goff, LB, Vandy
Rd 4a- Owen Scmitt, FB, W Va
Rd 4b- Dexter Jackson, WR, App St
Rd 5a- Jeremy Zuttah, OL, Rutgers
Rd 5b- Eric Foster, DL, Rutgers (Draftguys sold me. He could be a nice pass-rusher)
Rd 7a- Mike Dragosavich, P, N Dakota St
Rd 7b- Lamar Myles, OLB, Louisville
The Vanderbilt draft, eh? It occured to me that this could be a very likely scenario for our actual draft in rounds 1, 2, and 4 -- I generally like SEC players, but Vandy's the weak sister of the league....
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Why no stress on the WR guys? OT and DT are huge holes on our team... But so is WR, I see a lot of early round linebackers... But we are much more set at the linebacker position then the WR position. Imagine this, and I say imagine because it's not possible but what if Brandon Marshall goes down with an injury.

We have Keary Colbert (whom the panthers laugh at) and Glenn Martinez giving us the worst receiving core in the league. If we don't take a WR before at least round 4 with loads of talent I am going to be sorely disappointed. With Jay, Brandon and Scheff this team should be a very pass efficient team. We need to put a threat opposite Marshall to relieve his pressure, and who can make some plays of his own. Otherwise our line won't account for anything. If you can't score points, you can't win ball games.
I could certainly see us going WR early, middle or late. For me personally, I'm still haunted by year after year of poor WR picks. As fun as it is for some to clown on Martinez, he contributed more in this season than any drafted WR in the Shanahan era other than Lelie and BMarsh - and that's not a compliment to Glenn.

I like the Colbert pick up, with Stokley and BMarsh that's a solid but unspectacular group that could surely use some depth if the right guy falls to us. I do like Manningham, as a late 1st or 2nd round pick. I'm not sold at all on Jackson nor am I too high on the other perspective WR's. Bennett is intriguing because of his connection with Cutler.

I suppose for me, I just feel that WR is a need that can be addressed next season if need be. I've made it no secret I don't expect the 2008 Denver Broncos to be SB contenders, but the 2010 team could be. If the Broncos can use 2007 and 2008 to fortify the team's greatest weaknesses (OL and DL), the 2009 campaign could be dedicated towards filling in the missing links with vets (like RB, WR or S). I'd have no qualms if the Broncos take a WR or two, but I'd prefer the picks be spent in the trenches.

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This would be nice
12. Chris Long
42. Sedrick Ellis, DT
104. Ryan Clady, OT
115. Devin Thomas, WR
130. Kenny Phillips, S
140. Branden Albert, G
202. Rashard Mendenhall, RB
209. Dan Connor, LB
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This would be nice
12. Chris Long
42. Sedrick Ellis, DT
104. Ryan Clady, OT
115. Devin Thomas, WR
130. Kenny Phillips, S
140. Branden Albert, G
202. Rashard Mendenhall, RB
209. Dan Connor, LB
Substitute Darren McFadden for Rashard Mendenhall, and I'll sign off on that draft.
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1. Ryan Clady, LT, Boise State
2. Pat Sims, DT, Auburn
4a. Harry Douglas, WR, Louisville
4b. Jonathan Goff, LB, Vanderbilt
4c. Marcus Harrison, DT, Arkansas
5a. Jon Greco, RT/G, Toledo
5b. Dexter Jackson, WR/KR, Appalachian State
7a. David Roach, S, TCU
7b. Jack Ikegwuonu, CB, Wisconsin

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