Overhyped: Favre didn't deliver in second half of career - The Orange Mane

TDmvp · 03-08-2008, 06:50 PM

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/column...sal&id=3281535

front page of espn .... i guess the love fest is over

Bronx33 · 03-08-2008, 06:53 PM

Sal Paolantonio is just rubbing the carpet the other direction for a change.

Dedhed · 03-08-2008, 07:05 PM

I've loved watching Favre over the years as much as any QB not named Elway. I have a little bit of an issue over how he went out though. Saying "it's not about the records, it was about how I played the game" when if you look at how he left he was clearly only playing the game for the records.

He said that the odds were long on the Packers winning the SB, and tht anything less would be a let down. However if anything, the Packers are a serious contender for the first time in three years. But the records aren't there to chase. If he wasn't just playing for the records there is no way he would have suffered through the '05 and '06 seasons.

Being a huge Elway fan, I feel cheated a little that he hung around just to pass some of Elways records.

TomServo · 03-08-2008, 08:11 PM

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Being a huge Elway fan, I feel cheated a little that he hung around just to pass some of Elways records.

same here. but ol peyton or brady or somebody is going to break the records someday anyway. it would have been nice to trot the records out for a decade or more til that happened tho.
said it before i like the guy but the way he went out in his last game... a superbowl right in his hands and all he has to do is drive 40 or so yards for the (likely)game winning fg and he throws his second boneheaded int. of the game. just typical of his career but no luck to bail him out one more time.

That One Guy · 03-08-2008, 08:23 PM

I see exactly where you guys are coming from and I've long said Favre was chasing records but you can't really call this unless you're actually inside his head. Sure he got all the records and might have been able to win a SB next year... or the team could've reverted to pre-2007 and he could've been sitting at home during the playoffs next year. This could actually be a matter of him preserving his current gains and, in his eyes, going out on top. He took the youngest team to the NFC Championship game and they went into OT with the eventual SB champs... that's quite a going away. It's not a SB but it's pretty dad-gum good and after the season's he's had lately, you can't blame him for not wanting to risk it again. If he's content right now, I'm glad to see one of the all time greats going out knowing he was on top and wont be lumped in with Emmit and Jerry Rice who stayed around long after their days were over.

crazyhorse · 03-08-2008, 09:00 PM

Sour grapes

TomServo · 03-09-2008, 03:41 AM

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Sour grapes

from favre that he didnt go out like elway?

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He took the youngest team to the NFC Championship game and they went into OT with the eventual SB champs...

and whos fault was it they they didnt go to the SB? typical favre, throwing a dumbass pic

Dagmar · 03-09-2008, 03:57 AM

I'm not a fan, fueled by the media hype but to pen this article, to release it at the end of a huge career is... I don't know how to put it. I guess John was crap except for 2 lucky years, and that was because of TD?

TomServo · 03-09-2008, 04:04 AM

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I'm not a fan, fueled by the media hype but to pen this article, to release it at the end of a huge career is... I don't know how to put it. I guess John was crap except for 2 lucky years, and that was because of TD?

well crap knowing Favre he would have ignored Davis and would have thrown a pic in OT
anyway-thats just favre

TomServo · 03-09-2008, 04:07 AM

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I guess John was crap except for 2 lucky years, and that was because of TD?

yah lets throw out the "drive" and the 80's

PatsWin2002 · 03-09-2008, 05:06 AM

I'm torn on the whole "sticking around for records" thing. Favre was good, but pretty overrated IMO.

I'm not saying he didn't earn the records, but in all honesty he was one game away from being Dan Marino.

Now I am not sucking up here........but the Patriots got to the '97 SB instead of Denver because of that freaky Jax win. I still feel that if Denver got there they would've beat Green Bay...especially since it would've been their first real chance at a SB win.

The thing people will most remember about Favre is the ironman thing with the string of games started ad QB - that is impressive.

Jetmeck · 03-09-2008, 06:30 AM

If not for a stumble in the 96 playoffs against the Jags we would have ran it down GB's throat in the SB that year. Without that ONE SB win Favre is another Marino. Maybe worse with all his RECORD BREAKING INTS.....HA

Jetmeck · 03-09-2008, 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by PatsWin2002

I'm torn on the whole "sticking around for records" thing. Favre was good, but pretty overrated IMO.

I'm not saying he didn't earn the records, but in all honesty he was one game away from being Dan Marino.

Now I am not sucking up here........but the Patriots got to the '97 SB instead of Denver because of that freaky Jax win. I still feel that if Denver got there they would've beat Green

Smart people think alike. TD was in his prime and would killed them again in SB 31.

crazyhorse · 03-09-2008, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by TomServo

from favre that he didnt go out like elway?

Is Favre posting in this thread?

crazyhorse · 03-09-2008, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by PatsWin2002

I'm torn on the whole "sticking around for records" thing. Favre was good, but pretty overrated IMO.

I'm not saying he didn't earn the records, but in all honesty he was one game away from being Dan Marino.

Now I am not sucking up here........but the Patriots got to the '97 SB instead of Denver because of that freaky Jax win. I still feel that if Denver got there they would've beat Green Bay...especially since it would've been their first real chance at a SB win.

The thing people will most remember about Favre is the ironman thing with the string of games started ad QB - that is impressive.

Sure seems like you're sucking up.

Thanks for the disclaimer.

Spider · 03-09-2008, 09:53 AM

who did more for their teams ? Jim Kelly or Bret Farve ?

Inkana7 · 03-09-2008, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by crazyhorse

Sure seems like you're sucking up.

Thanks for the disclaimer.

Don't you have a family or something?

Jetmeck · 03-09-2008, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Inkana7

Don't you have a family or something?

< Speaking to Crazyho.

I hope so because he really does not have a football team. Heh Crazyho what have your boys done this offseason. Let me tell you....absolutely nothing. At least we are trying to get better.

Dagmar · 03-09-2008, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by TomServo

yah lets throw out the "drive" and the 80's

I'm glad you let my point sail over for head.

PatsWin2002 · 03-09-2008, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by crazyhorse

Sure seems like you're sucking up.

Thanks for the disclaimer.

Nope - just a rare occasion I agree with the locals.

If you think the Bledsoe-led Patriots were taking a win out of Denver that year you're crazy. It would have had to have been as big a fluke game as the Jax game.

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03-08-2008, 06:53 PM	#2
Bronx33 lets go partner Rumpson Rocks Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Lakewood,Colo Posts: 41,221 Adopt-a-Bronco: Woodyard	Sal Paolantonio is just rubbing the carpet the other direction for a change.

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Dedhed Ring of Famer Fare thee well Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Earth Posts: 9,748 Adopt-a-Bronco: Elvis	I've loved watching Favre over the years as much as any QB not named Elway. I have a little bit of an issue over how he went out though. Saying "it's not about the records, it was about how I played the game" when if you look at how he left he was clearly only playing the game for the records. He said that the odds were long on the Packers winning the SB, and tht anything less would be a let down. However if anything, the Packers are a serious contender for the first time in three years. But the records aren't there to chase. If he wasn't just playing for the records there is no way he would have suffered through the '05 and '06 seasons. Being a huge Elway fan, I feel cheated a little that he hung around just to pass some of Elways records.

03-08-2008, 08:23 PM	#5
That One Guy Producer of Nonsense Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Sun and Beachville Posts: 14,042 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	I see exactly where you guys are coming from and I've long said Favre was chasing records but you can't really call this unless you're actually inside his head. Sure he got all the records and might have been able to win a SB next year... or the team could've reverted to pre-2007 and he could've been sitting at home during the playoffs next year. This could actually be a matter of him preserving his current gains and, in his eyes, going out on top. He took the youngest team to the NFC Championship game and they went into OT with the eventual SB champs... that's quite a going away. It's not a SB but it's pretty dad-gum good and after the season's he's had lately, you can't blame him for not wanting to risk it again. If he's content right now, I'm glad to see one of the all time greats going out knowing he was on top and wont be lumped in with Emmit and Jerry Rice who stayed around long after their days were over.

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crazyhorse All Motor!! You can only hope to contain me Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,338	Sour grapes

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Dagmar ...there ain't no devil ..there's just God when he's drunk. Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Morrison Posts: 17,132 Adopt-a-Bronco: Tim Tebow	I'm not a fan, fueled by the media hype but to pen this article, to release it at the end of a huge career is... I don't know how to put it. I guess John was crap except for 2 lucky years, and that was because of TD?

03-09-2008, 05:06 AM	#11
PatsWin2002 Giggity Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: South of Boston Posts: 6,270	I'm torn on the whole "sticking around for records" thing. Favre was good, but pretty overrated IMO. I'm not saying he didn't earn the records, but in all honesty he was one game away from being Dan Marino. Now I am not sucking up here........but the Patriots got to the '97 SB instead of Denver because of that freaky Jax win. I still feel that if Denver got there they would've beat Green Bay...especially since it would've been their first real chance at a SB win. The thing people will most remember about Favre is the ironman thing with the string of games started ad QB - that is impressive.

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Jetmeck Not a Chief's board Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 5,427	If not for a stumble in the 96 playoffs against the Jags we would have ran it down GB's throat in the SB that year. Without that ONE SB win Favre is another Marino. Maybe worse with all his RECORD BREAKING INTS.....HA

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Spider Mr Diplomacy I survived Tebow Mania at the Mane Join Date: May 2001 Location: Elway was just an arm =MacGruder Posts: 84,438 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	who did more for their teams ? Jim Kelly or Bret Farve ?