Hillary Clinton has "felt the presence of the Holy Spirit" - The Orange Mane

goldengopher1976 · 03-06-2008, 09:37 PM

Hillary: “I Have Felt the Presence of the Holy Spirit”
March 6, 2008
In July of last year, Hillary Clinton gave an interview to New York Times reporter Michael Luo about her faith. It's a fairly in depth interview.

Well, for your listening pleasure, The Brody File found the actual audio from the interview and it's really interesting. Reading the transcription of the interview is one thing, but hearing Hillary Clinton talk about her faith is very different. Listen here. You can read the transcription here.

At the time, the article got significant play but some of the quotes from the whole interview never got used in the article. Here are some key quotes that I thought you might be interested to look at:

Hillary Clinton: I believe in the father, son, and Holy Spirit, and I have felt the presence of the Holy Spirit on many occasions in my years on this earth.

Reporter: Can I ask you theologically, do you believe that the resurrection of Jesus actually happened, that it actually historically did happen?

Senator Clinton: Yes, I do.

Reporter: And, do you believe on the salvation issue -- and this is controversial too -- that belief in Christ is needed for going to heaven?

Senator Clinton: That one I'm a little more open to. I think that it is, as we understand our relationship to God as Christians, it is how we see our way forward, and it is the way. But, ever since I was a little girl, I've asked every Sunday school teacher I've ever had, I asked every theologian I've ever talked with, whether that meant that there was no salvation, there was no heaven for people who did not accept Christ. And, you're well aware that there are a lot of answers to that. There are people who are totally rooted in the fact that, no, that's why there are missionaries, that's why you have to try to convert. And, then there are a lot of other people who are deeply faithful and deeply Christ-centered who say, that's how we understand it and who are we to read God's mind about such a weighty decision as that.

Reporter: And your attitude toward the Bible about how literally people should take it.

Senator Clinton: I think the whole Bible is real. The whole Bible gives you a glimpse of God and God's desire for a personal relationship, but we can't possibly understand every way God is communicating with us. I've always felt that people who try to shoehorn in their cultural and social understandings of the time into the Bible might be actually missing the larger point that we're supposed to take from the Bible.

Link: http://www.cbn.com/CBNnews/334482.aspx

Dudeskey · 03-06-2008, 10:12 PM

So have I... Wait, nevermind. The heater just kicked on

L.A. BRONCOS FAN · 03-06-2008, 10:31 PM

As long as she doesn't start wars on false pretenses at the behest of a "higher father" I don't give a sh*t about her religious beliefs.

footstepsfrom#27 · 03-07-2008, 01:46 AM

It's a little late for that now I'm afraid.

Taco John · 03-07-2008, 03:05 AM

This sort of campaign trick worked great for Bush.

Hogan11 · 03-07-2008, 03:52 AM

Oh God

24champ · 03-07-2008, 04:14 AM

alkemical · 03-07-2008, 09:25 AM

Election time is great.

orangeatheist · 03-07-2008, 10:02 AM

Quote:

Hillary Clinton: I believe in the father, son, and Holy Spirit, and I have felt the presence of the Holy Spirit on many occasions in my years on this earth.

Reporter: Can I ask you theologically, do you believe that the resurrection of Jesus actually happened, that it actually historically did happen?

Senator Clinton: Yes, I do.

She sounds like a Right-Wing Republican. Right at home at Liberty Baptist. Funny how when a Dem says something about belief in Yahweh, the physical resurrection of Jesus Christ and the presence of the Holy Spook that it "doesn't matter" to LABF. He gives her a pass. Let a Repub say it, however....

And nice tap dance on the literal reading of the Bible, Hillary. Same with the issue of whether or not people who don't believe in Jesus will be saved. Typical politician. Don't answer the question. Deflect it.

Spider · 03-07-2008, 10:07 AM

I am sure Hillary has felt more then the holly spirit ......

orangeatheist · 03-07-2008, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Spider

I am sure Hillary has felt more then the holly spirit ......

ewwwww!

L.A. BRONCOS FAN · 03-07-2008, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by orangeatheist

She sounds like a Right-Wing Republican. Right at home at Liberty Baptist. Funny how when a Dem says something about belief in Yahweh, the physical resurrection of Jesus Christ and the presence of the Holy Spook that it "doesn't matter" to LABF. He gives her a pass. Let a Repub say it, however....

And nice tap dance on the literal reading of the Bible, Hillary. Same with the issue of whether or not people who don't believe in Jesus will be saved. Typical politician. Don't answer the question. Deflect it.

Now look who's "altering sources."

I said her beliefs didn't matter to me as long she doesn't start a war on false pretenses at the behest of some "higher father."

Spider · 03-07-2008, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by orangeatheist

ewwwww!

who you kidding ? you would hit that just like i would .only difference is you wouldnt tell anyone

footstepsfrom#27 · 03-07-2008, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Spider

who you kidding ? you would hit that just like i would .only difference is you wouldnt tell anyone

I wouldn't even tell myself...that's just disgusting.

Spider · 03-07-2008, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by footstepsfrom#27

I wouldn't even tell myself...that's just disgusting.

every guy has done ugly ........ let me put it like this .sleeeping with ugly women is like driving a mack truck ....... Both are great until you run into someone you know

footstepsfrom#27 · 03-07-2008, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Spider

every guy has done ugly ........ let me put it like this .sleeeping with ugly women is like driving a mack truck ....... Both are great until you run into someone you know

I've never done ugly.

Spider · 03-07-2008, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by footstepsfrom#27

I've never done ugly.

Yeah and I never gotten lost either ......Unless you think your right hand is a thing of beauty

footstepsfrom#27 · 03-07-2008, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Spider

Yeah and I never gotten lost either ......Unless you think your right hand is a thing of beauty

OK you should have qualified that statement...

Spider · 03-07-2008, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by footstepsfrom#27

OK you should have qualified that statement...

Just call you pretty hands

Rohirrim · 03-07-2008, 11:21 AM

I guess we have collectively decided to just throw out that clause that says, "...there shall be no religious test for office." Strictly speaking, Congress has made no law. Wink, wink. But we make all our candidates jump through the hoop, don't we?
http://candst.tripod.com/testban1.htm

jhat01 · 03-07-2008, 11:22 AM

I have too, after a long night of hot wings, washed down with beer and tequila shots.

Spider · 03-07-2008, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by jhat01

I have too, after a long night of hot wings, washed down with beer and tequila shots.

, been to the point I refused to leave the apartment during daylight afraid someone will see me

just say lets hang out here today watch movies ..... then when the sun goes down run like hell

epicSocialism4tw · 03-07-2008, 11:44 AM

She gave the answers that you would expect. If both she and Obama are professed Christians, does this make them both incompatable with their party? Who on earth will bitter atheists vote for now? McCain?

Rohirrim · 03-07-2008, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by angryllama

She gave the answers that you would expect. If both she and Obama are professed Christians, does this make them both incompatable with their party? Who on earth will bitter atheists vote for now? McCain?

I take it you prefer that only Christians should hold office in America?

TailgateNut · 03-07-2008, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by angryllama

She gave the answers that you would expect. If both she and Obama are professed Christians, does this make them both incompatable with their party? Who on earth will bitter atheists vote for now? McCain?

The problem isn't with the atheists finding/ accepting a candidate. It's the evangelicals who limit themselves to their own kind of ilk.

03-06-2008, 09:37 PM	#1
goldengopher1976 Choosing optimism Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 718 Adopt-a-Bronco: Steve Atwater	Hillary Clinton has "felt the presence of the Holy Spirit" Hillary: “I Have Felt the Presence of the Holy Spirit” March 6, 2008 In July of last year, Hillary Clinton gave an interview to New York Times reporter Michael Luo about her faith. It's a fairly in depth interview. Well, for your listening pleasure, The Brody File found the actual audio from the interview and it's really interesting. Reading the transcription of the interview is one thing, but hearing Hillary Clinton talk about her faith is very different. Listen here. You can read the transcription here. At the time, the article got significant play but some of the quotes from the whole interview never got used in the article. Here are some key quotes that I thought you might be interested to look at: Hillary Clinton: I believe in the father, son, and Holy Spirit, and I have felt the presence of the Holy Spirit on many occasions in my years on this earth. Reporter: Can I ask you theologically, do you believe that the resurrection of Jesus actually happened, that it actually historically did happen? Senator Clinton: Yes, I do. Reporter: And, do you believe on the salvation issue -- and this is controversial too -- that belief in Christ is needed for going to heaven? Senator Clinton: That one I'm a little more open to. I think that it is, as we understand our relationship to God as Christians, it is how we see our way forward, and it is the way. But, ever since I was a little girl, I've asked every Sunday school teacher I've ever had, I asked every theologian I've ever talked with, whether that meant that there was no salvation, there was no heaven for people who did not accept Christ. And, you're well aware that there are a lot of answers to that. There are people who are totally rooted in the fact that, no, that's why there are missionaries, that's why you have to try to convert. And, then there are a lot of other people who are deeply faithful and deeply Christ-centered who say, that's how we understand it and who are we to read God's mind about such a weighty decision as that. Reporter: And your attitude toward the Bible about how literally people should take it. Senator Clinton: I think the whole Bible is real. The whole Bible gives you a glimpse of God and God's desire for a personal relationship, but we can't possibly understand every way God is communicating with us. I've always felt that people who try to shoehorn in their cultural and social understandings of the time into the Bible might be actually missing the larger point that we're supposed to take from the Bible. Link: http://www.cbn.com/CBNnews/334482.aspx

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03-06-2008, 10:12 PM	#2
Dudeskey Ring of Famer This space for rent Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Colorado Springs, CO Posts: 4,314	So have I... Wait, nevermind. The heater just kicked on

03-06-2008, 10:31 PM	#3
L.A. BRONCOS FAN Mo' holla fo' yo' dolla! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: In a bunker in an undisclosed location Posts: 52,697	As long as she doesn't start wars on false pretenses at the behest of a "higher father" I don't give a sh*t about her religious beliefs.

03-07-2008, 01:46 AM	#4
footstepsfrom#27 helmet to helmet hitter Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Arlington, TX Posts: 16,126 Adopt-a-Bronco: Joe Mays	It's a little late for that now I'm afraid.

03-07-2008, 03:05 AM	#5
Taco John 24/7 Broncos In Elway I Trust Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 49,742 Adopt-a-Bronco: Peyton Manning	This sort of campaign trick worked great for Bush.

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Hogan11 Rock-N-Roll Historian Let's take these SOB's out!!!!!! Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: W.NY.B.C. Posts: 21,300 Adopt-a-Bronco: Floyd Little	Oh God

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alkemical Guerrilla Ontologist rorrim\|mirror Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Future Posts: 42,723 Adopt-a-Bronco: Prima Materia	Election time is great.

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Spider Mr Diplomacy I survived Tebow Mania at the Mane Join Date: May 2001 Location: Elway was just an arm =MacGruder Posts: 84,438 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	I am sure Hillary has felt more then the holly spirit ......

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Rohirrim Partisan Human Cannonball Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Twixt Hell & Highwater Posts: 49,113	I guess we have collectively decided to just throw out that clause that says, "...there shall be no religious test for office." Strictly speaking, Congress has made no law. Wink, wink. But we make all our candidates jump through the hoop, don't we? http://candst.tripod.com/testban1.htm

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jhat01 Ring of Famer Knuckle Dragging Homer Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Langley, VA Posts: 1,799	I have too, after a long night of hot wings, washed down with beer and tequila shots.

03-07-2008, 11:44 AM	#23
epicSocialism4tw Tebowing the long haul all the way to the title Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: TX, USA Posts: 37,072 Adopt-a-Bronco: Champ Bailey	She gave the answers that you would expect. If both she and Obama are professed Christians, does this make them both incompatable with their party? Who on earth will bitter atheists vote for now? McCain?